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Dalziell a shoo-in, says Matthews
By Laine Clark
4:13 PM Tue 22 July, 2008

JONATHAN Brown and Simon Black are no longer the first picked at the Brisbane Lions.
Well, not this week at least.
A welcome selection headache may await Lions coach Leigh Matthews with Brown and Black backing up from niggles and Jed Adcock and Joel Macdonald set to return from injury against Richmond on Saturday night.
But Matthews says draftee Bradd Dalziell is already locked in for their crucial clash.
Dalziell earned his AFL debut last weekend against West Coast thanks to a quad injury to Adcock and Matthews said the former was guaranteed a game this weekend even if Adcock passed a fitness test.
Barely 12 months after languishing in the East Fremantle reserves team, Dalziell amassed 32 possessions in Brisbane's 46-point thrashing of West Coast.
It is the most disposals by an AFL player on debut, according to Champion Data records which go back to 1993.
It is understood Dean Greig's 39 disposals on debut for St Kilda against Carlton in round 21, 1991 is the best ever.
"I think it would be a big call to leave him out next week. He certainly did well, so he'll hold his spot in the team," Matthews said of Dalziell.
"He had an exceptional first day with regards to getting the ball in his hands."
Matthews didn't expect Dalziell to get ahead of himself against the Tigers as the Lions look to keep their top eight finals hopes alive.
"He's actually quite a quiet kid and I don't think he's the type of kid that is going to get too full of himself," he said.
"You often find that your first game is the easiest game of football you will play for a while because you're new to both the game and the opposition.
"He's not a teenage first-year player. He's 21 and been around the AFL system and had plenty of kicks in the pants.
"He's been through the hard times so I don't think he is all of a sudden going to think that the AFL is a piece of cake."

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Bradd Dalziell's 32 possessions against West Coast last week marked a record debut since 1993, when statistics started being kept in earnest. Of those behind him in the top-10, the likes of Michael Voss (Lions), Paul Hasleby (Fremantle) and Guy Rigoni (Melbourne) have all gone on to have pretty fair careers. Dean Polo (Richmond), Andrew Walker and Dennis Armfield (both Carlton) are still developing, while Donald Dickie (Port Adelaide), Brodie Atkinson (St Kilda) and Brad Murphy (Western Bulldogs) are long gone. Brad who?
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Meanwhile he (Leigh) says fans should not get too carried away by the performance of debutant Brad Dalziell. Dalziell set a new AFL record when he claimed 32 possessions in his first game against West Coast on Saturday night.
Matthews says while it was an encouraging game for the club's 2007 draft pick, it needs to be kept in perspective.
"He had an exceptional getting ball in hands first day but often you find the first game is the easiest game you play for a while because you're completely new," he said.
You're new to it and you're new to the opposition and it'll be up to him to build on that."
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konstas_87 said:
definately did enough to show his first game was no fluke.
cant believe it took the 70% of the season for this guy to get a game..
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18 possessions included 8 contested (4th highest contested possession getter on the ground).
5 Tackles.
His disposal was good too.
Will be a player.
 
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TheBrownDog said:
18 possessions included 8 contested (4th highest contested possession getter on the ground).
5 Tackles.
His disposal was good too.
Will be a player.
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Impressive stats indeed.:thumbsu:

Hopefully we can get Proud, Adcock, Rischitelli and Dalziell working together in the future... I can see this being a dangerous combination in the coming years. Especially with our young talls coming through. The only thing these guys need to work on is their skills, particularly when the game is on the line like it was last night.
 
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Number 34 is showing more poise, than those team-mates he is competing with, to win a regular spot in the side!:thumbsu:
 
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Good follow up game after a magical debut

Slowing becoming a fav, i can see myself each week hoping/wishing he gets 20 plus possies just to keep up with his amazing first game :) :thumbsu:
 
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Luke McGuane lays on a big hip and shoulder, but Razzle got straight up and dived in the for the next contest.
 
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West Australian draftee Bradd Dalziell has collected more disposals than any other Lions player in his first two matches at senior level.
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Not sure what that means - whether it's any player's first two games at senior level, or any player over the last two weeks. The latter is certainly true, and the former may well be too.
 
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Interesting to see that on average Dalziell is statistically our best player. Who would have guessed that at the start of the season?:eek:

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Not that I expect him to maintain that though. The opposition will probably focus more on him and may give him tougher opponents. Most players tend to go through tough periods at some time or another, so hopefully he doesn't get too far ahead of himself and he has the fortitude to fight it out when things are no longer going his way.
 
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Grimreepah said:
Not that I expect him to maintain that though. The opposition will probably focus more on him and may give him tougher opponents. Most players tend to go through tough periods at some time or another, so hopefully he doesn't get too far ahead of himself and he has the fortitude to fight it out when things are no longer going his way.
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Not knowing him that well, but I'd say (as a generalisation) he won't get ahead of himself like an 18/19yo who bursts onto the scene. He's 21 now so is more mature, and having gone the hard route to AFL he won't be taking things for granted.
 

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BigCat2 said:
Not knowing him that well, but I'd say (as a generalisation) he won't get ahead of himself like an 18/19yo who bursts onto the scene. He's 21 now so is more mature, and having gone the hard route to AFL he won't be taking things for granted.
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I saw him at the Player Sponsor function on Friday and he seemed like a very quiet guy. Certainly not the type to get ahead of himself. In saying that, I only vaguely observed him from a distance between chatting to Riska and Hooper....
 
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Yeah, spent maybe 30 minutes talking to Bradd last Friday with Freddie and Lionbear. Very serious and thoughtful bloke.

Someone mentioned here that he was a bit unfit as a teenage footballer, but he said he was just like most kids at that stage. Working with Woey made the real difference.

He said he was frustrated playing well for Suncoast and not being able to crack a senior berth, but was really surprised how much we seemed to know about him and the Suncoast games -- albeit from a distance.

Been trying to figure out who he reminds me off, and it hit me watching him on Saturday.

It's a 96-99 era Benny Cousins. Benny has always had this very upright, almost military, cruising jog when he's off the ball -- it's quite efficient because he sits back on his heels as he travels and there's hardly any 'toe lift' in it, so he always looks like he's running flat-footed on sand, trying not to sink in too much. Mainly uses those larger core upper leg and glute muscles to keep you moving.

When the ball nears, he suddenly snaps his weight forward, the toes and calves get involved and he's off like a gazelle.

Watch Bradd and I reckon you can see that same style in his movement.

Not a massive surprise I guess considering Benny would have been 20ish when Bradd was 10ish. Who else is a Perth kid going to model his game on?
 
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On the topic of player comparisons I would probably say he is a bit like Heath Scotland. Gets a lot of the ball but is not overly strong in the body. Disposal is tidy but lacks the hurt factor of the elite players.
 
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Showed his first game was no fluke. Another 34 possessions and he's starting to enter 'ball magnet' status. Would have to be a certainty for the rising star nomination this week.
 
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Three weeks ago, BraddDalziell had 32 possessions in his debut AFL game; last night he had two more than that, and got the right spots time and time again, so often that you wondered how he'd ever found the time to cover so much ground. His kicking, through the centre and to Brown, was another reason the Lions could, and probably should have won. How the 21-year-old got through two national and rookie drafts, let alone to No. 52 before Brisbane picked him last November, is a curious thing.
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Brisbane's midfield, led by Michael Rischitelli and Bradd Dalziell, was prolific.
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At the risk of sounding like I put any stock into statistical rankings, Dalziell is now on average the 6th best player in the league (according to finalsiren).:)

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Gee I picked the right pony to bet on. If anyone likes my skills for seeking out talent :D, get on Andrew Foster (Freo) next year. I may be wrong but I only picked out two this year and one of them is an absolute ripper :thumbsu:
 
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Should have had more possessions last night.

Couldn't believe the number of times last night where Dazzle (or Begley or McGrath) were 70 metres clear on the wing waiting for the switch, only for one of our players to kick to a contest and turn it over.

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Showed his first game was no fluke. Another 34 possessions and he's starting to enter 'ball magnet' status. Would have to be a certainty for the rising star nomination this week.
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Cale Morton would appear to be a good chance too.
 
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The role he is playing is Lappin's sweeping role a kick and a half out of the defense. His running provides a good outlet to the backs and he goes into the middle and can win his own ball.

Fantastic start to his career. Lets hope he can keep it up.
 
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It would appear endurance and linking are his long suits.

It's probably a long shot that he will drop off enough to not be a part of our best 22 for a few years.

Sincerely hope anyway-we need a few sprouters,every other club seems to have 4 or 5.
 
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It's quite ironic that our Perth recruitment manager was Graeme Hadley and was the one who recommended Dalziell, because it was his son, Richard, who he replaced on the list. Anyway kudos to Graeme, it was one from left field, but he trusted his instincts and it's proving to be a great piece of recruiting.
 

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