Opinion Team of the Decade (2000-2009)

[AG]

i went to make my team but found i was typing out the whole brisbane team. to pick the best team you have to pick who was the best in their current time in their current possy
Brown > Tredrea

I don't get it. Tredrea, Hall and now Riewoldt have been better than Brown. Brown has only performed at a level worthy of his reputation since 2007.

 

[Last Line Hero]

i went to make my team but found i was typing out the whole brisbane team. to pick the best team you have to pick who was the best in their current time in their current possy
Brown > Tredrea
C.Johson > any small - medium running defender
Akermanis > any medium goalkicking forward-midfielder
Black + Voss > only matched by hird and rivalled by buckley
Lynch > equal with lloyd and greater than fevola
M.Michael > Scarlett imo for there separate era's of playing
Leppitsch > any rival chb
Lappin > could only be rivalled off a wing if you were to throw a specialist mid such a ricciuto, harvey, judd or mcleod...not rivalled for the out and out wing spot

What do you mean Mal Michael and Matthew Scarlett played in seperate era's?

 

[Ceebee]

i went to make my team but found i was typing out the whole brisbane team. to pick the best team you have to pick who was the best in their current time in their current possy
Brown > Tredrea
C.Johson > any small - medium running defender
Akermanis > any medium goalkicking forward-midfielder
Black + Voss > only matched by hird and rivalled by buckley
Lynch > equal with lloyd and greater than fevola
M.Michael > Scarlett imo for there separate era's of playing
Leppitsch > any rival chb
Lappin > could only be rivalled off a wing if you were to throw a specialist mid such a ricciuto, harvey, judd or mcleod...not rivalled for the out and out wing spot

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For some strange reason I agree

 

[cattas09]

G. Wanganeen - M. Scarlett - D. Fletcher

J. Clement - J. Leppitsch - A. McLeod

C. Judd - M. Voss - N. Buckley

M. Ricciuto - W. Tredrea - J. Hird

J. Akermanis - M. Lloyd - B. Johnson

D. Cox - S. West - B. Cousins

M. Pavlich
S. Black
A. Goodes
B. Harvey

Anything you would like me to justify, just ask.

Brent Harvey over Ablett Jnr ?

ohh and Aker over Shannon byrnes ?

 

[Tulip]

Like this side a lot.
Completely and utterly yet oh so incredibly it's amazingly biased, I'd take out either Goodwin or West and add in Peter Bell

 

[reggie]

I don't get it. Tredrea, Hall and now Riewoldt have been better than Brown. Brown has only performed at a level worthy of his reputation since 2007.

Did you watch any footy between 2001-2004? I would have thought Brown was a pretty important part of Brisbane's golden era. Hall's not close to Brown

 

[reggie]

Jesus Collingwood fans have gotten carried away with Presti this season.

Mate that is just rediculous... seriously.

The guy is having a good year Pies fans, we get it, but just think about the situation for a minute. Prestigiacomo has had his last 2 seasons written off by injury, and prior to that, he was a solid, dependable defender at best... certainly not someone you would consider amongst the best defenders in the game.

If you are going to sit there and tell me he has been better, since 2000, than Fletcher, Hudghton, Bolton, Glass, Rutten, Michael, Lake, Croad etc just to name key defenders, let alone defenders in general, then your'e an imbosile of the highest order.

I'd love to hear your justification for his selection. I need a good laugh.

I would have thought Presti has been at least equal to Croad over the decade - he's had some pretty ordinary years before coming good after returning to Hawthorn.

I'm surprised you put Lake in with the others. I'd rate Presti ahead of him for the decade. I know he gets a lot of the ball for a full back but he's not in the same class as a true defender as Glass, Bolton, Michael etc.

The others you mentioned have been better than Presti for the decade

 

[tribey]

Did you watch any footy between 2001-2004? I would have thought Brown was a pretty important part of Brisbane's golden era. Hall's not close to Brown

Brown was an up and coming youngster between 2001-4, nothing more.

It's like saying Simon Goodwin was an important cog in the Crows' back-to-back wins, or that Westhoff was a star had we got over the line in 07.

To emphasise, Brown played 19 games and kicked just the 14 goals in 2002. Hardly superstellar fusion and that's the level we're discussing here.

 

[AG]

Did you watch any footy between 2001-2004? I would have thought Brown was a pretty important part of Brisbane's golden era. Hall's not close to Brown

I sure did. It was when Tredrea was in his prime. Brown wasn't crucial he was important for structure but he wasn't the match winning superstar he has been since 2006/2007.

 

[reggie]

Well, in my opinion Brown has been at least the equal of Tredrea over the course of the decade and is clearly ahead of Hall.

As for mentioning Westhoff in the same breath as Brown - wash your mouth out with soap!

 

[AG]

Why don't the AFL actually do a team of the deacade? They could announce it at this years AA awards.

 

[dynamite kid]

B: James Clement, Matthew Scarlett, Dustin Fletcher
HB: Andrew McLeod, Justin Leppitsch, Gavin Wanganeen
C: Adam Goodes, Michael Voss (C), Nathan Buckley
HF: James Hird, Warren Tredrea, Mark Ricciuto
F: Brad Johnson, Matthew Lloyd, Jason Akermanis

FOLL: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Ben Cousins

I/C: Matthew Pavlich, Simon Black, Scott West, Gary Ablett

Coach: Leigh Matthews

Sigh. The good old days where this was read out every thursday.

 

[dynamite kid]

Link​

All-Australian CHF: Tredrea 4, Brown 1
Club Best and Fairest: Tredrea 3, Brown 2
Coleman Medal: Tredrea 0, Brown 1
AFLCA MVP: Tredrea 1, Brown 0

And he's been on one leg since 2006. But no, not even worthy of a bench position behind the Warnambool slow-mo snorter.

For the record i would have Tredrea at CHF in my team of the decade. But these raw stats are remarkably similar. Brown is not 'the most overrated player in the league' as most people like spew onto their keyboards. He was a rough up and comer 2000-2004, whereas Tredrea has been on the way out 2006-2009. Over the decade though both players achievements stack up and i think either is a worthy inclusion.

 

[lions2009]

I think anyone who has Brown over Tredrea is a bit dillusional. Tredrea was the key behind Port's H&A dominance in the early part of the decade, and was rewarded with 4 consecutive AA appearances at CHF, arguably the toughest position on the ground. Brown has made AA once, admittedly played in 3 flags but he did have the midfield of dreams around him, as well as Lynch and Bradshaw. Oh, and Tredrea has come back well this year having played on half a leg for 3 years.

 

[LoveLeon]

Very good team AussieGun

But Presti is absolutely no chance, Scarlett has dominated FB for most of the decade.

Leppitsch must be in the team, was CHB in one of the greatest teams of all time, and regular AA.

Cattas09 if you think Shannon Byrnes is even close to Aker you are delusional. Aker has been a genuine matchwinner, triple premiership player, Brownlow medallist, faster, stronger, better kick, better goal sense, higher possession and efficiency forward than Shannon Byrnes. Jeez Cats supporters get carried away with their 'forwards'; Mooney is a spud, Varcoe is very average and Lonergan can't get a kick. Stevie J's a star though, and wouldn't be too far from a HF in my team, but hard to go past Hirdy or Roo.

 

[deeplivid]

Aussie Guns team is the best posted so far.

How can anyone consider not having Ablett in their side?

Compare him to say James Hird in this period who everyone has in their side.

Ablett - 154 games, 202 goals, 2 Player MVP's, 2 All-Australian, 1 best and fairest, 1 premiership

Hird - 145 games, 156 goals, 1 premiership, 1 norm smith, 1 All Australian, 0 Best and Fairests.

Only thing Hird has on Gary is a Norm Smith and it is arguable Gary should have won one last year.

Dude where do you get your stats? Hird actually won club B&F TWICE this decade (2003 & 2007). Hird also placed THREE times All-Australian this decade (00,01,03). Duly noted that Ablett has now just won his third MVP to Hird's nil.

But this is all beside the point because you can not compare Ablett Jr with the great Captain James Hird.

 

[deeplivid]

B: Archer - Scarlett - Johnson
HB: Mcleod - Leppitsch - Wanganeen
C: Goodes - Voss (c) - Ricciuto
HF: Hird - Brown - Riewoldt
F: Richardson - Lloyd - Akermanis
R: Cox - Judd - Buckley (vc)

I: West - Cousins - Black - White

E: Ablett - Tredrea - Clement - C. Cornes

Coach: L. Matthews

Song: "OH WE'RE FROM TIGERLAND"!

This team automatically fails for lack of Fletcher.

 

[AG]

But this is all beside the point because you can not compare Ablett Jr with the great Captain James Hird.

You can for this decade, not careers though. Hird still wins on both accounts but it's not that crazy to compare the two.

 

[DCFCFAN84]

B: Fletcher, Scarlett, Wanganeen

HB: McLeod, Leppitsch, C. Johnson

C: Cousins, Black (vc), Ricciuto

HF: Buckley, Pavlich, Hird

F: Richardson, Lloyd, Akermanis

R: Cox, Judd, Voss (c)

I: Goodes, Tredrea, West, Ablett Jnr

Coach: Matthews

 

[TassieSaint]

Nick Riewoldt is very hardly done by in this thread. 4 All Australian's, 4 Best and Fairests (potentially 5), Captain, Rising Star, MVP. His record this decade is better than most, he should at least slip onto the bench

 

[AG]

HF: Mark Ricciuto - Warren Tredrea - James Hird
F: Jason Akermanis - Matthew Lloyd - Brad Johnson
INT: Adam Goodes - Scott West - Gary Ablett - Matthew Pavlich

Who would you bump out for Riewoldt because he does deserve to be in the team.

 

[Gibbo_88]

I think anyone who has Brown over Tredrea is a bit dillusional. Tredrea was the key behind Port's H&A dominance in the early part of the decade, and was rewarded with 4 consecutive AA appearances at CHF, arguably the toughest position on the ground. Brown has made AA once, admittedly played in 3 flags but he did have the midfield of dreams around him, as well as Lynch and Bradshaw. Oh, and Tredrea has come back well this year having played on half a leg for 3 years.

Anyone who counts how many AA teams a player has made as a measure of how good they are is delusional. There are so many examples where players haven't been in the squad or the 22 when its obvious they should have been and this years AA team has highlighted how bad it really is.

 

[mdc]

HF: Mark Ricciuto - Warren Tredrea - James Hird
F: Jason Akermanis - Matthew Lloyd - Brad Johnson
INT: Adam Goodes - Scott West - Gary Ablett - Matthew Pavlich

Who would you bump out for Riewoldt because he does deserve to be in the team.

And I wouldn't even think twice. Very good, consistent player, but I can't remember ever playing the Dogs and thinking "Shit, how are we going to stop Brad Johnson?". I can't say the same about any other player there. Johnson out, Yablett to the pocket, Roo to the bench.

 

[tribey]

Anyone who counts how many AA teams a player has made as a measure of how good they are is delusional. There are so many examples where players haven't been in the squad or the 22 when its obvious they should have been and this years AA team has highlighted how bad it really is.

We're not talking about quibbles over forward pockets, flankers or spare midfielders here.

We're talking CHF.

That said, Tredders was shafted in 2005 despite having identical stats to Pavlich and actually leading his team into September. [Link]

Unlike Riewoldt, Pav and Brown who've all been given token pocket/interchange/flank positions over the journey, Walls, KB and co decided he wasn't worth a place at all.

 

[AG]

Tredrea is still the best I've seen.

Pavlich
Tredrea
Lloyd
Riewoldt
Brown

They're the 5 key forwards in contention for the team. I don't think any others warrant discussion.