News James Podsiadly listed by Geelong

[CatTricks]

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Pod's will also be a smart Rookie choice, would love to see if he has the ability to slot a few playing pocket. Could be a bit of Stuart Dew i feel...big frame, great kick and smart player. Worth a try.

Couldnt have put it better myself

 

[Glassjaw]

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You know he could even be rookied for a chance to see if he'll take over Mooney's role at the end of 2010, as Mooney may retire/head to the Coast. Give him the year to prepare for it, see if he's up to it.

Mitch Brown is a long term project. He is VERY raw.

 

[rocker_oz33]

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I'm kinda on the fence with this one but with the money cap the cats cant afford any named players.so getting pods is the next best thing he also wont cost much.

 

[foxdog50]

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Is there any truth in this????Or is it just garbage....

 

[Pure_Ownage]

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there appears to be alot of difference between AFL and VFL players. im open to the idea especially with our window only open for another 2 years, maybe 3 if some younger players mature early. his shown he can be along with the VFL elite and beat AFL fringe players convincingly, this is why i am open to it. if he can come in and kick 2 goals a game thats enough, and maybe take the 2nd best defender and get hawkins onto the 3rd best (look out :O)
also why was lonergan not traded? his 26 next year and thought a club like carlton or richmond may want him to add a bit of maturity to there list. i dont think his name was put up, anyone heard otherwise?

He wasn't traded largely because another club would have had to agree to pay his existing contract which made him a much less attractive proposition for them.

He will also be a decent depth player and then probably end up at GC or similar.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

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Pod's will also be a smart Rookie choice, would love to see if he has the ability to slot a few playing pocket. Could be a bit of Stuart Dew i feel...big frame, great kick and smart player. Worth a try.

This reminds me that for anyone who doubts that Pods has some ability, check out the 09 elimination final (if I had the footage I'd post it here but sorry I don't). Check out the whole game where I thought he was great...but particularly the mark and goal from the boundary in the last quarter....shows he knows where they are and how to slot them.

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

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This reminds me that for anyone who doubts that Pods has some ability, check out the 09 elimination final (if I had the footage I'd post it here but sorry I don't). Check out the whole game where I thought he was great...but particularly the mark and goal from the boundary in the last quarter....shows he knows where they are and how to slot them.

Rest assured he can play. I have seen a number of VFL games with him, from both Werribee and Geelong and he certainly has performed in just about all of them. Kinda reminds me a little of Bradshaw in that he is an honest player with a decent frame and is a good finisher.

The VFL / AFL gap is a noted big one, but he is just such a consistent performer in the VFL that it would be hard to believe that he couldn't have some impact in a quality forward line that would only ever see him as a 5th option .... Not so sure how his defensive skills are mind you? But he would be hungry i imagine having hardly had the opportunity and this being his last chance

 

[jim boy]

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The addy reported today that he was overseeing the vfl squad with Amos. If he was listed, would he be the first player-coach (albeit an assistant) since Blight or Jezza?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

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The addy reported today that he was overseeing the vfl squad with Amos. If he was listed, would he be the first player-coach (albeit an assistant) since Blight or Jezza?

It doesn't actually say he's become one of the coaches as such...but given we originally recruited him in an off field capacity, it wouldn't surprise me if he became one.

I think he would be the first since Blight....time to do some research methinks

 

[Hinkley29]

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The addy reported today that he was overseeing the vfl squad with Amos. If he was listed, would he be the first player-coach (albeit an assistant) since Blight or Jezza?

If Podsiadly is going to be a coach, it would almost preclude him from going onto our list simply from a salary cap perspective. Anything he was paid for the coaching aspect of his role would count against the salary cap.

Unless he was prepared to do the coaching stuff for free in addition to playing for a rookie listed player's wage, then he would become too expensive from a salary cap perspective.

Hang on, I have got an idea. We should see if the AFL will allow us to pay Pods as a coach outside of the cap, in addition to his wage for playing (which would count against the cap). That would create a precedent, which would mean that from 2010 onwards we could appoint Ablett and Selwood as assistant coaches, pay them half a million each in their role as coaches, plus give them $700k playing contracts which count against the cap. They get their money, we don't blow the salary cap, and the GC can piss off. Everybody wins.

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

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If Podsiadly is going to be a coach, it would almost preclude him from going onto our list simply from a salary cap perspective. Anything he was paid for the coaching aspect of his role would count against the salary cap.

Unless he was prepared to do the coaching stuff for free in addition to playing for a rookie listed player's wage, then he would become too expensive from a salary cap perspective.

Hang on, I have got an idea. We should see if the AFL will allow us to pay Pods as a coach outside of the cap, in addition to his wage for playing (which would count against the cap). That would create a precedent, which would mean that from 2010 onwards we could appoint Ablett and Selwood as assistant coaches, pay them half a million each in their role as coaches, plus give them $700k playing contracts which count against the cap. They get their money, we don't blow the salary cap, and the GC can piss off. Everybody wins.

Brilliant thinking....this is the kind of mind we need running the AFL, not that GWOS shite from Demetriou!

I have another idea, perhaps we could make a few of our boys cross-code representatives. Given that Melbourne has now secured a Super 15's team, we should sign Max up for them and get him to play the season there (surely he would be good enough!) and then slip back into AFL after there season is up....that we could get the 15's to pay the bill and fit him under the salary cap!!!

Back to Pods though. I would assume that is very unlikely he will be listed if he is taking on a coaching role with the VFL. It would be a shame, would love to see him rookied for a year....hopefully the powers to be can convince him to take a playing role for one year with a coaching promise to be made after his playing days are over. Either way, as long as Pods is involved in some capacity at the GFC then i will be happy - has definitely earned his reputation!

 

[Turkey Tom]

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Hang on, I have got an idea. We should see if the AFL will allow us to pay Pods as a coach outside of the cap, in addition to his wage for playing (which would count against the cap). That would create a precedent, which would mean that from 2010 onwards we could appoint Ablett and Selwood as assistant coaches, pay them half a million each in their role as coaches, plus give them $700k playing contracts which count against the cap. They get their money, we don't blow the salary cap, and the GC can piss off. Everybody wins.

Something similar has already been done. When Silvagni retired he became an assistant coach at Carlton....rumour was he was on HUGE money. So possibly his last playing contract at Carlton was reduced, but he was compensated in the coaching role. Of course the assistant coach money wasn't part of the salary cap. I'm sure it has been done elsewhere too.

 

[InnocentBystandr]

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I reckon it's a great option to have. I also think its an encouragement to other VFL listed guys to 'go for gold'. Pods is obviously a 'smart' player who can kick straight - key qualities for a forward.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

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Something similar has already been done. When Silvagni retired he became an assistant coach at Carlton....rumour was he was on HUGE money. So possibly his last playing contract at Carlton was reduced, but he was compensated in the coaching role. Of course the assistant coach money wasn't part of the salary cap. I'm sure it has been done elsewhere too.

Glad to hear it...if it's something we can do at some point to help us keep players, without weakening the coaching structure...then I would hope we'd look at it.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

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If Podsiadly is going to be a coach, it would almost preclude him from going onto our list simply from a salary cap perspective. Anything he was paid for the coaching aspect of his role would count against the salary cap.

Unless he was prepared to do the coaching stuff for free in addition to playing for a rookie listed player's wage, then he would become too expensive from a salary cap perspective.
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Didn't Matty Egan get paid for his coaching work this year? or is that only next?

Anyway..without reading Pods mind, if at his age you got what would be your last crack at AFL, I'm sure you'd take it in order to put your coaching and fitness careers on hold, which you can do for ages after anyway. So I doubt it'll be a prohibitive factor in the decision.

 

[D BRIDGE]

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I hope it happens.
Great backup forward or back.

 

[tommahawk_07]

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just an update on the podsiadly thing, it will only happen if he decides to halt his position in strength and conditioning with the club to be a mature age rookie on the list with probably half the pay...

you would think after training with so many clubs over the years and never getting a game you would put the strength stuff on hold for the chance to fulfill a life long dream...

 

[CatTricks]

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just an update on the podsiadly thing, it will only happen if he decides to halt his position in strength and conditioning with the club to be a mature age rookie on the list with probably half the pay...

you would think after training with so many clubs over the years and never getting a game you would put the strength stuff on hold for the chance to fulfill a life long dream...

Source?

 

[pinion]

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Source?

some guy on the bus who was standing behind some woman at the milk bar who used to babysit spiro malekalis' niece

 

[David the Cat]

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if podsiadly is going to be a coach, it would almost preclude him from going onto our list simply from a salary cap perspective. Anything he was paid for the coaching aspect of his role would count against the salary cap.

Unless he was prepared to do the coaching stuff for free in addition to playing for a rookie listed player's wage, then he would become too expensive from a salary cap perspective.

Hang on, i have got an idea. We should see if the afl will allow us to pay pods as a coach outside of the cap, in addition to his wage for playing (which would count against the cap). That would create a precedent, which would mean that from 2010 onwards we could appoint ablett and selwood as assistant coaches, pay them half a million each in their role as coaches, plus give them $700k playing contracts which count against the cap. They get their money, we don't blow the salary cap, and the gc can piss off. Everybody wins.

gold!

 

[Partridge]

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Hawkins was listed at 197cm/100kg this year. Yeah he's big but he's also still a kid, and his body is changing. Podsiadly is a mature body, and his weight is going to be more dense for his body composition.

I concede all the other stuff you said though, and his actual ability may be in question.

I would have thought that's a fairly important point.

Sorry I can't see any value in this at all. If he plays senior footy my guess is he'll be too slow, unable to keep up with the game, and probably unable to get a kick. He'll also be playing on far better defenders than he faces in the VFL.

Didn't we learn anything from the Gary Ayres era?

 

[tommahawk_07]

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Source?

do mike sheahan and hutchy give away their sources akoner? doesnt matter where i got the information, this is what is happening i dont really care if you believe it or not...

 

[witsend]

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I would have thought that's a fairly important point.

Sorry I can't see any value in this at all. If he plays senior footy my guess is he'll be too slow, unable to keep up with the game, and probably unable to get a kick. He'll also be playing on far better defenders than he faces in the VFL.

Didn't we learn anything from the Gary Ayres era?

As stated earlier and elsewhere...IF he gets PSD'd, it would only be insurance for one or both of Hawkins and Mooney becoming unavailable for extended periods.
Mitch Brown's body is nowhere near AFL ready and he's coming off a broken leg. Dawson may or may not have the skill, and Lonergan is a failed experiment as a Key Forward. He seems to function better as a back-up tall defender.
Nobody is suggesting Pods is the future but it sure is cheap insurance, without having to give up anything on our list. He at least has experience and a hard body. He can kick goals if given the opportunity. He also would have our MF hitting him lace-out, which would be quite different for him, I suspect!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

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I would have thought that's a fairly important point.

Sorry I can't see any value in this at all. If he plays senior footy my guess is he'll be too slow, unable to keep up with the game, and probably unable to get a kick. He'll also be playing on far better defenders than he faces in the VFL.

Didn't we learn anything from the Gary Ayres era?

You're missing the point. We're not saying he's the cornerstone of our forward line future or anything. We're simply saying if Mooney or Tomahawk go down, particularly towards the business end of the season we need someone who can stand in the goalsquare and a) preferably mark the footy b) if not a), then hold his body enough to bring the ball to ground and c) in the case of a) happening, kick straight. Whatever other deficiencies he may have, Pods can do all of those things well. And you can't expect Mitch Brown to. Not in 2010. So if it happens, I'll back it.

 

[David the Cat]

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Pods may well be a choice, but my money is on Danny O'Keefe... first round draft pick who had his difficulties with injury and some misfortunes up in Sydney. Mark him down as a very big chance...