List Mgmt. Player Ages Thread

[Zach Package]

next AVAILABLE selections.

you can't trade out of it, but if you don't have the picks to begin with, then your sweet

 

[Draft Bored]

That's not true at all. Port Adelaide bid their first rounder (#7) on Viney. Melbourne selected him with their next live pick, their second rounder (#26). Compensation picks aren't included. Try again.

So you think a banned (1st/2nd round) club can use their third round pick for a first round father son player? I don't believe there would have ever been a case where this has happened.

I think it would be extremely unfair that a team could be banned from the first two rounds but potentially pick up a first rounder in the third round.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

So you think a banned (1st/2nd round) club can use their third round pick for a first round father son player? I don't believe there would have ever been a case where this has happened.

I think it would be extremely unfair that a team could be banned from the first two rounds but potentially pick up a first rounder in the third round.

They'd be abiding by the rules in their entirety by using their next eligible selection. Why wouldn't it be allowed?

 

[Draft Bored]

They'd be abiding by the rules in their entirety by using their next eligible selection. Why wouldn't it be allowed?

I agree it appears to be by the book but I don't think the book was written with draft sanctions in mind.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

I agree it appears to be by the book but I don't think the book was written with draft sanctions in mind.

Then why were Adelaide explicitly banned? It may turn out that Essendon were/will be too, but in the absence of that I wouldn't go leaping to any more conclusions.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I agree it appears to be by the book but I don't think the book was written with draft sanctions in mind.

Ah, so we're back to punishing Essendon for the vibe rather than breaking rules. Got it.

 

[Draft Bored]

Ah, so we're back to punishing Essendon for the vibe rather than breaking rules. Got it.

What? I meant the book of father/son rules were written without consideration of draft sanctions. I wasn't referring to Essendon in any way at all. Just that it doesn't seem to account for large drops in pick values.

 

[Phone]

We don't really what would have happened. The Crows were prevented from picking father-sons, so it can be a penalty issued, but I don't think they had any on the radar so it was a tad meaningless

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Father sons are picked with live picks, and not compensation picks. If Jake Long was deemed a father son (and he will), we will use the 3rd rounder on him. The end of 1st round selection is purely a compensation pick, not a live pick. Live picks are directly tied to ladder positions. You finish last you get pick 1, etc.

 

[Zach Package]

Then why were Adelaide explicitly banned? It may turn out that Essendon were/will be too, but in the absence of that I wouldn't go leaping to any more conclusions.

and I think we've probably pushed for it and said ;we want to pick a F/S, we'll give back a pick, but we want to be able to get this kid', and the AFL have actually obliged it seems.

MOAR J's

 

[Dammit]

What would it take to get Colyer, Hams or Melksham off you guys?

We've got a litany of picks and a few kids who may seek greater opportunity elsewhere.

I know each player mentioned would have different values. Our pick 20 as a starting point, + ?

 

[Zach Package]

What would it take to get Colyer, Hams or Melksham off you guys?

We've got a litany of picks and a few kids who may seek greater opportunity elsewhere.

I know each player mentioned would have different values. Our pick 20 as a starting point, + ?

Hams and Melksham unattainable. Melk just signed up last week, hams in year one has shown a bit i think.
To get melksham off us, pick 6 or whatever you currently have. Hams probably a 3rd/4th rounder but again, I don't see why we'd let him go, or why clubs would trade for him

Colyer is an interesting one, could be delisted (would be stiff) might get a decent length deal.

Definitely enough chop to play afl, just maybe not for us (although i reckon he should be a regular, Kommer seems to be held in higher regard by the coaches).

3rd rounder would get a deal done, we need small forwards, I'd jump at Aaron Hall, but Sumner goes alright as well.

 

[Duckworth]

Ah, so we're back to punishing Essendon for the vibe rather than breaking rules. Got it.

Could this actually make it better for Essendon drafting wise in 2014? If Jake Long is worth a first rounder we get 1st Round Compensation Pick, Jake Long, Pick 3... vs Jake Long, Pick 2, Pick 3 (unpenalised)...

Has Little pulled a swifty in this negotiation?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What would it take to get Colyer, Hams or Melksham off you guys?

We've got a litany of picks and a few kids who may seek greater opportunity elsewhere.

I know each player mentioned would have different values. Our pick 20 as a starting point, + ?

Colyer would be the only one available- your 3rd rounder could do the trick.

 

[Dammit]

I'd do Colyer for a third rounder in a heartbeat! I'll ring Bluey and Clayton, can you blokes get it sorted on your end?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'd do Colyer for a third rounder in a heartbeat! I'll ring Bluey and Clayton, can you blokes get it sorted on your end?

Would be a fairly fair trade, even a trade up could be an option, our 4th for your 2nd, basically just gets us into the 2nd round, and you get Colyer anyway.

 

[HirdyLannister]

We need to sign up hooker asap and I can see TBC going to gws now for a first rd pick.

 

[what did you say]

We need to sign up hooker asap and I can see TBC going to gws now for a first rd pick.

we have two picks under 10 this year an over looked grundy 3 times we ain't tradeing a high pick for a ruck, an belly is not worth pick 10 anyway imo.a 2nd rounder is his value.it's not unlike sam jacobs trade

 

[HirdyLannister]

we have two picks under 10 this year an over looked grundy 3 times we ain't tradeing a high pick for a ruck, an belly is not worth pick 10 anyway imo.a 2nd rounder is his value.it's not unlike sam jacobs trade

The matter of the fact is you need bigger bodies not 18 year old bean stalk ruckman. An if your comparing Jacobs to TBC and saying TBC is lesser it's alittle laughable. Jacobs is a good tap ruckman but around the ground he is one diminsional, TBC is only 24 (I think) and has showed he is capable all over and kicking 20+ goals so far.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...-future-midfield/story-fni5f6kv-1226705324548

Trading some guns such as Crameri and maybe Tayte Pears could help them to get back into the first two rounds, but ruckman Bellchambers is said to be off-limits.

you might have to look else where maybe, I hope mumfords or Warnocks body holds up for you's

 

[Ben the Gooner]

What? I meant the book of father/son rules were written without consideration of draft sanctions. I wasn't referring to Essendon in any way at all. Just that it doesn't seem to account for large drops in pick values.

Tom Liberatore was picked with the second live pick after he was bid for, as Mitch Wallis was taken as well. It's not a complicated or unprecedented idea, so stop feeling hard done by. You cheated, we didn't, you got off lighter.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

we have two picks under 10 this year an over looked grundy 3 times we ain't tradeing a high pick for a ruck, an belly is not worth pick 10 anyway imo.a 2nd rounder is his value.it's not unlike sam jacobs trade

Yeah, nah.

 

[Suma Magic]

Re: hypothetical of trading Colyer to Gold Coast for their third rounder.

Eagles have a mid third round comp pick (tied to Collingwood's finishing position). Not yet activated. Would this have any value for Essendon? Or would you be looking for picks you can use this year?

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Pears and Gumby for the Dogs 1st round pick, any thoughts on if this is possible?

 

[eth-dog]

Pears and Gumby for the Dogs 1st round pick, any thoughts on if this is possible?

Pick 4? No way.

 

[jsd09]

Pick 4? No way.

Agreed, I think if we to get a 1st rounder it would be between #16-23 more-so leaning towards the 23 I'd say.