Franks for the memories. Things don't always go well with COLA

[cheesydave]

This seems pretty easy to me.
1st - match Sydney's offer
2nd - sell Buddy to the highest bidder. Perhaps no.1 draft pick and Adams and send him to GWS.

Buddy did his best to get a good offer. Now we'll do our best and get a good deal.

 

[Main Man]

When looking back on it the GWS scenario never made any sense, what made anyone believe that he would want to be thrown in front of cameras to promote the game whilst being smashed on field every week? No amount of money would make him want to do that particularly when he has enough avenues to money as it is?

 

[Xtreme]

Not hoping he suffers a serious injury as that would be poor form but I hope in some way this massive gamble from the Swans backfires spectacularly.

Hope they win the next 9 wooden spoons, or finish 9th - 12th, no finals and not a very good pick in future drafts

 

[TeamPlayer23]

This is the future of footy. Supporters should never become too attached to their players because the next season they could be playing somewhere else. Players have more power than clubs these days, and that's a sad reflection on where footy is heading. The days of club loyalty are well and truly dead.

Even if Buddy re-signs with the Hawks at the end of the season, I'll never forgive him for the disruptive effect it will have on the club this season, arguably the most crucial season in terms of premiership windows. At least Buddy's getting his jollies, and that's obviously all he cares about.

I like to still believe that most players generally are loyal to the clubs, its only a select few that are not and those stories by the media get so much press it makes the issue look bigger....

I just like to thank all our recent signees as they have all proved themselves as loyal servants of the HFC, of the likes of Roughead, Rioli, Mitchell, Hodge etc.... which proves to me that club loyalty does still exist in our modern game under the huge dark cloud of free agency and the shady deals of big $$$.

And for those who still see the value in remaining a one club player, it is a great sign, and one that I personally hope still remains in the game despite the ever so changing nature of the AFL world...

 

[mt. heart attack]

Good luck to him. Thanks for the 9 years of service and helping the Club win two flags, couldn't have done it without him and will be a challenge to cover his loss going forward. A challenge I have the utmost confidence our Club is equipped to handle.

Interesting times ahead for the code.

 

[GHamsandwich]

Goodbye Bud.

 

[cryptor]

This seems pretty easy to me.
1st - match Sydney's offer
2nd - sell Buddy to the highest bidder. Perhaps no.1 draft pick and Adams and send him to GWS.

Buddy did his best to get a good offer. Now we'll do our best and get a good deal.

We effectively can't though. 9 years is crazyness. No one will trade for that burden and we can't take the risk of being stuck with him for that long. Sydney have got something up their sleeve by signing him for 9 that I'm hoping the AFL will pick up in their investigation.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Just catching up with all the Buddy news. As Robbo would say, I'm flabberbasted

From what I can tell, this is about Buddy wanting to move to Sydney more than anything else, can't see any other reason you would want to leave a successful club like Hawthorn to go to one of our arch rivals for not that much more money. If he thinks all his off field issues will disappear by moving to Sydney I think he is in for a rude awakening. I don't think his tears were crocodile tears though, I think in some ways he knows what he is giving up, it's just that his off field life is more important than playing football for Hawthorn. I would venture to say if he had more strings to his bow he would give up football because of the attention is gets him in his private life but as it's what he's good at, moving to Sydney seems like a way to keep playing football but get out of the off field fish bowl. Like I said, I doubt it's going to pan out like that. With more freedom it's likely he'll be less careful and the attention will continue.

I share other posters disgust for Liam Pickering. As I have said many times before, would not trust him as far as I could kick him and he has always had a conflict of interest being Buddy's manager and Clarko's as well. I have heard him week after week on "Off the Bench" on SEN saying he thought Buddy was going to stay at Hawthorn and all the time he was brokering a deal to get Buddy to Sydney. Cannot stand the bloke.

 

[MadHawka]

This seems pretty easy to me.
1st - match Sydney's offer
2nd - sell Buddy to the highest bidder. Perhaps no.1 draft pick and Adams and send him to GWS.

Buddy did his best to get a good offer. Now we'll do our best and get a good deal.

We only have to match what's in the salary cap, 3rd party deals not included. So forget about the term in years and from a dollars perspective it's the same as what GWS/HAW has offered.

So match the offer, refuse any trade from Sydney and setup a new Veale deal for someone we were going to delist for whatever GWS and Hawks had already negotiated and let him go into the draft for GWS to pick up.

 

[kimbopen]

Found this on twitter

“@timrosen35: A Sydney player has personally told me how unhappy he is with the Buddy Franklin contract offer! Took a cut to help club stay "within cap"”



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And he won't be the only $hitney player not happy with the offer to Franklin.

 

[bungholes_premiers]

everyone seen Crawf's view ? http://crawf.com.au/oldies/my-thoughts-on-buddys-big-move-shane-crawford/

 

[MadDawg]

This seems pretty easy to me.
1st - match Sydney's offer
2nd - sell Buddy to the highest bidder. Perhaps no.1 draft pick and Adams and send him to GWS.

Buddy did his best to get a good offer. Now we'll do our best and get a good deal.

We should chuck in Lachlan Veale to seal the deal!

 

[hk89]

This may have already been asked, but 267 pages is a bit much for me to check every post.

We've all heard buddy's lower output this year was down to a change of roles and a desire to get a more even spread of goal kickers.

In retrospect, how much impact on his form do you think the fact that he appears to have had exactly this move planned for many many months? Couldn't help but distract and play on his mind. I'm not saying he wasn't trying , I'm sure he put his all in for every game he played in the brown and gold, but that kind of thing would be hard to maintain focus through. For mine, it just looked more than "playing a different role", he just didn't seem quite as "on" as he has in previous years.

In the end , it didn't matter, we won the flag. However, next year, could we expect to see a re-emergent buddy with the weight of this decision lifted from his shoulders, and probably playing a much more central part of the forward line in Sydney?

 

[PNess]

Why Sydney?

??

 

[mt. heart attack]

This may have already been asked, but 267 pages is a bit much for me to check every post.

We've all heard buddy's lower output this year was down to a change of roles and a desire to get a more even spread of goal kickers.

In retrospect, how much impact on his form do you think the fact that he appears to have had exactly this move planned for many many months? Couldn't help but distract and play on his mind. I'm not saying he wasn't trying , I'm sure he put his all in for every game he played in the brown and gold, but that kind of thing would be hard to maintain focus through. For mine, it just looked more than "playing a different role", he just didn't seem quite as "on" as he has in previous years.

In the end , it didn't matter, we won the flag. However, next year, could we expect to see a re-emergent buddy with the weight of this decision lifted from his shoulders, and probably playing a much more central part of the forward line in Sydney?

It may have affected his output, however the telling stat is that we just didn't kick it to him as much s previous years. Hard for him to influence the game and lift his output when the ball wasn't coming his way.

They had a stat on 360 tonight - he is the only player (or maybe one of a select few) to kick 60 plus goals seven seasons in a row. There will be some goals to be kicked next year Jack!

 

[seanoff]

Welcome to professional sport. Players now have more power now.

This will happen more often now. This is just the start

 

[Stranglers]

Hawthorn should use this as motivation. Back to back in 2014!

And then Hodgey can dedicate the win to Buddy.

 

[DrEvil]

I wonder which Hawthorn player knew about the contract?

 

[WWSD]

I don't think this will make Sydney stronger at all. In fact it could have the reverse effect on them next year and beyond. There could be a handful of Swans players who might not be too keen on a player coming into their footy club and automatically being their highest paid player. This might actually derail Sydney's 2014 campaign.

 

[Stranglers]

In the end , it didn't matter, we won the flag. However, next year, could we expect to see a re-emergent buddy with the weight of this decision lifted from his shoulders, and probably playing a much more central part of the forward line in Sydney?

Probably. And then we can listen to the usual rot from Sydney supporters about how it's all due to their superior culture, Bloods blah blah etc. etc.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

What crawf had to say

Late this afternoon I sat down with my eldest boy Charlie Crawford and told him that Buddy was leaving the Hawks and heading to the Sydney Swans his reaction as a 7 year-old boy slightly surprised me…he started to cry.

Did the news shock me? No it didn’t. I spent some one on one time with Buddy in the Hawks locker rooms after the win on Saturday and Buddy was highly emotional. After seeing him in this state it didn’t take much to know there was something else playing on his mind.

Knowing Buddy as a team-mate and a friend I know this would have been the toughest decision of his life. In my opinion, this season would have been a long, drawn out one for Buddy as even he wouldn’t have known how things were going to unfold until the final weeks of the season. One thing is for sure – his heart is at Hawthorn.
I think there is a lot more to this story than financial gain.

This decision allows his an element of freedom that he wouldn’t have experienced since his early twenties. Perhaps this is even a reason why the deal with GWS didn’t proceed – they were positioning him to be “the face of their club” after all.

The start of the 2014 season is going to be hard to watch with the Big Bud dressed as a Swan but how lucky were we to have Buddy on our side for nine years and contributing to two Premierships for the Hawks?

So one last word to you Buddy…

I have a clear memory of our first training camp together at Kokoda when you were given your 24 hour ration pack and ate it in the first five minutes. We were told very clearly how important it was for you to learn to manage your rations and instructed not to give you any of our food supply. We failed dismally because we loved you then and we still love you to bits now…ALWAYS.


Heartbroken in all honesty, when you look back at our success you will always see big bud there and to know he is there no more is a quiet s*it feeling.

Flippin' heck, this reduced me to tears. The last paragraph reads like a eulogy at a funeral. Poor Crawf, I know how he feels

 

[Paul Kersey]

I wonder which Hawthorn player knew about the contract?

Can think of three straight off the cuff.

 

[BigMick1]

Welcome to professional sport. Players now have more power now.

This will happen more often now. This is just the start

Bitter pill to swallow, what a fecking joke, find it hard to imagine having any interest in this game going forward, have played , coached and administered in this sport my whole life, reckon if this goes through I'm just about done, only thing will keep me going will be to support the boys that have stuck by the mighty brown and gold. F¥#ck this !!!!

 

[kimbopen]

I wonder which Hawthorn player knew about the contract?

Can think of three straight off the cuff.

At a guess - Roughy, Taz & Gibbo?

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

I wonder which Hawthorn player knew about the contract?

Have I missed something? What makes you think any of the Hawthorn players knew about it?