Noble replaces Bailey in box

[Marty64]

Contracts don't mean a hell of a lot these days; if there was someone out there we wanted to get, we should've gone and got them.

Would need to offer longer than a seasons contract to head hunt a replacement from another club and not a good look on our part.

 

[King Elvis]

How is it a bad look?

We know the reality of the situation, it isn't insulting Bailey to insure we get the best replacement possible for him, whiles he's not available.

 

[jenny61_99]

How is it a bad look?

We know the reality of the situation, it isn't insulting Bailey to insure we get the best replacement possible for him, whiles he's not available.

And seeing as we are entering the season proper in a matter of weeks, where all available dudes are otherwise occupied, where do you suggest we get this best replacement possible from?

 

[Sanders]

And seeing as we are entering the season proper in a matter of weeks, where all available dudes are otherwise occupied, where do you suggest we get this best replacement possible from?

Are you suggesting the AFL world is experiencing full employment?

 

[Marty64]

Are you suggesting the AFL world is experiencing full employment?

There are a couple out there that are unemployable.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

And seeing as we are entering the season proper in a matter of weeks, where all available dudes are otherwise occupied, where do you suggest we get this best replacement possible from?

It was several months ago that the club became aware of Bailey's health issue.

And we had a head start. Could we start with the coach we got to stand in during Bailey's 16 game ban who was so successful? What's he up to?

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Do we actually need to replace Bailey

To me these Director of Coaching roles are a more of a fab and a nothing position with many of these roles like Bailey and Eades roles were created to support rookie coaches.

Successful organisations are driven by the right people in the right roles with strong Accountabilities, with this in mind the perpetration and game day Accountabilities sits solely with the head coach and his assistants and if this team is strong enough with the right level of skills, knowledge and experience then the Bailey position becomes redundant

Coaches like Clarkson and Lyon don't have Bailey and Eade type of roles in their structure and for me I would rather not replace Bailey and have Sando stand up on his own two feet.

Replacing Bailey is like saying Sando still needs training wheels. Time for Sando to stand upon his own right

 

[FR0GGY]

Do we actually need to replace Bailey

To me these Director of Coaching roles are a more of a fab and a nothing position with many of these roles like Bailey and Eades roles were created to support rookie coaches.

Successful organisations are driven by the right people in the right roles with strong Accountabilities, with this in mind the perpetration and game day Accountabilities sits solely with the head coach and his assistants and if this team is strong enough with the right level of skills, knowledge and experience then the Bailey position becomes redundant

Coaches like Clarkson and Lyon don't have Bailey and Eade type of roles in their structure and for me I would rather not replace Bailey and have Sando stand up on his own two feet.

Replacing Bailey is like saying Sando still needs training wheels. Time for Sando to stand upon his own right

What would we do with bailey when he comes back though?

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

What would we do with bailey when he comes back though?

Not my decision

All I'm saying that I can understand these types of roles when a club hires a rookie coach but the role should become redundant once the coach has got some experience under his belt

The fact that we have signed Sando to a contract extension indicates the clubs confidence in him as a coach so in my view Bailey role isn't critical moving forward

Back to your question if Dean does come back and after this scare I do believe that both Dean and club should consider a different role within the club that gives him greater work life balance

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

So we can save ourselves two positions and two salaries.
Don't need Bailey's role at all and don't need Noble's role either as we can afford for him to give it up to fill in for Bailey.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

So we can save ourselves two positions and two salaries.
Don't need Bailey's role at all and don't need Noble's role either as we can afford for him to give it up to fill in for Bailey.

IMO certainly one position, Noble is still required as List Manager

 

[jenny61_99]

IMO certainly one position, Noble is still required as List Manager

And he is STILL doing his job as list manager. It's just while we wait until we see how Dean is going, a few people are doing over and above what they were doing before hand.

 

[Allefgib]

And he is STILL doing his job as list manager. It's just while we wait until we see how Dean is going, a few people are doing over and above what they were doing before hand.

Are you aware of any contingency plans Jen?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Are you suggesting the AFL world is experiencing full employment?

What senior afl strategy coaches are available?'

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So we can save ourselves two positions and two salaries.
Don't need Bailey's role at all and don't need Noble's role either as we can afford for him to give it up to fill in for Bailey.

Based on what?

It's usual practice for existing staff to cover where there is a short term shortage.

It's unusual for an organisation to always have all staff available all the time.

Some posters don't appear to have worked in the real world & are living in some nirvana

 

[Marty64]

What senior afl strategy coaches are available?'

Scott Watters?

 

[King Elvis]

An entire season isn't short term though. 6 months in business *might* be short term! but it's not in footy; it's potentially a year down the drain.

What senior afl strategy coaches are available?'

Who cares, we're a rich club, find the one we want, make him an offer he can't refuse and pay out his current contract...

We are still a rich club... Aren't we?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Scott Watters?

You heard how he went at the saints right?

So loved by his players they set a dwarf on fire in his honour

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

An entire season isn't short term though. 6 months in business *might* be short term! but it's not in footy; it's potentially a year down the drain.



Who cares, we're a rich club, find the one we want, make him an offer he can't refuse and pay out his current contract...

We are still a rich club... Aren't we?

No we are no longer a rich club.

Afl keen to stop poaching after Richardson scenario

 

[Marty64]

You heard how he went at the saints right?

So loved by his players they set a dwarf on fire in his honour

yes he came up a bit short...

Next on the list is coaching Eastern Rangers...

Where does Terry Wallace fit in?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

yes he came up a bit short...

Next on the list is coaching Eastern Rangers...

Where does Terry Wallace fit in?

Wallace wasted 5 years at the tigers.

A big no from me.

 

[Sanders]

What senior afl strategy coaches are available?'

Anyone you appoint in the job becomes one

 

[Marty64]

Wallace wasted 5 years at the tigers.

A big no from me.

Not a lot of quaility floating around then with crazy Vossy taking a tv role.

 

[King Elvis]

yes he came up a bit short...

Next on the list is coaching Eastern Rangers...

Where does Terry Wallace fit in?

The bin.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Anyone you appoint in the job becomes one

the point is there is not really any high level strategy types available.