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[Grave Danger]

Place should be renamed the Incontinental

 

[DonDraper]

Fyfe shouldn't have been suspended. I mean he should have given the current rules but god it doesn't sit well with me

 

[It Just Is]

Fyfe shouldn't have been suspended. I mean he should have given the current rules but god it doesn't sit well with me

The grading classifications of 'reckless' and 'negligent' don't sit well with me. It just leaves so much open to the interpretation of the MRP and has a substantial difference on how many points an incident incurs.

The words a synonyms FFS.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

On AFL 360 they gave a stat of Melbourne's big losses since 2008 when Bailey got there.

21 losses over 76+ pts. Their 93 point loss on the weekend was only their 12th biggest in that period. I've said it before but that 11-13 = 79pts rd 1 last year should have been a 20 goal win. We smashed them like a 20 goal win and stuffed up their whole season.

In that time we have had 6
2008 -0, 2009 -1, 2010 -2, 2011 -3. That's it. Sure we have had 4 losses in low 70's.

It why I have been saying they and the Vic media, in particular Gary Lyon, can talk about doing a Port but they are starting from further back than us and the media don't understand we hit rock bottom in 2011 not 2012. Last year they lost 8 games by 76+pts and 7 in 2008, Bailey's first year. This year they will improve - but they can't do a Port until next year at the earliest.

 

[ozph1870]

they can't do a Port .

there, just fixed it...

 

[edgie]

2012 was an alright year, derailed by the cruelest run of injuries and a momentum killer of a game against the Bulldogs. I hate seeing it references as an example of our on field ineptitude. We were 4 - 6 going in to the break before that.

2011, is fair game.

 

[philreich]

Lmao, the Pods & Danger highlights need to be accompanied by Benny Hill music

To be fair, Dangerdud is doing the work of 2 men every week.......Laurel and Hardy

 

[philreich]

I put a silly 50 cents each way on him last week at odds of 100/1 Problem is there will be a few blokes taking votes off him like on Saturday.

Brownlow votes to individuals don't always mean everything. I think I'm right in saying that, although Dangerfield topped 20 votes, Port actually gained more votes as a club.

Crows: leaving too much to too few since 2012.

 

[TeeKray]

With all due respect - which is not much - you shouldn't really get 4 points for beating Melbourne at the moment.

Mark Neeld destroyed any prospect of a short to medium term turn around with his poor list management decisions. Got rid of Moloney, Martin, Rivers and a couple of others whilst simultaneously bringing in Rodan, Byrnes, Pederson and Dawes. Looked bad at the time, looks worse in hindsight. Meanwhile, they discarded high draft picks like Petterd, Bennell, Morton, etc, without ever really getting the best out of them. And whilst Mitch Clark was a good pick up, he has been cursed by injury and now personal issues pretty much from the moment he landed there.

Melbourne supporters must just despair.

 

[Canoogs]

The grading classifications of 'reckless' and 'negligent' don't sit well with me. It just leaves so much open to the interpretation of the MRP and has a substantial difference on how many points an incident incurs.

The words a synonyms FFS.

They do have guidelines in the MRP book on what the difference is between the two.

An example of negligent contact may be where a player collides with another player who has taken a mark and where contact occurs just after the mark has been taken. The offending player has a duty of care to avoid any contact which would constitute a reportable offence by slowing his momentum as much as he reasonably can and a failure to do so constitutes negligent.

In the example given under negligent above, if a player collides with another player who has marked the ball, in circumstances where there is some further time after the mark has been taken, and where he blindly continued on, to contact the player taking the mark, then the act would best be described as reckless.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I'm thinking there is a curse on TROSA...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/enter...or-mp-kate-ellis/story-fni6umbp-1226869709265

Painful break for Labor MP Kate Ellis

IT’S been a painful weekend in more ways than one for Labor MP Kate Ellis.
A day after watching her beloved Crows get thumped in the Showdown, Kate underwent surgery yesterday for a broken fibula suffered in a freak accident.

Kate hurt herself tripping over one of her puppies in her kitchen on Friday night and the injury only worsened during a speaking engagement on Saturday morning.

A visit to the Royal Adelaide Hospital straight afterwards confirmed the break but after getting her leg plastered, she soldiered on to the Adelaide Oval for the big clash.

“I was on crutches and because Memorial Drive was closed Dave (husband and FIVEaa brekkie co-host David Penberthy) gave me a piggyback to the southern gate from King William Street,” she tells Confidential.

Halfway through the demoralising Showdown, Kate - the Crows’ No.1 female ticketholder - received a call from the hospital saying surgery was required to insert a plate into her leg.

“The whole thing is a bit ridiculous but at least the general anaesthetic will temporarily wipe out all memories of the Showdown,” she says.

Haha I saw her just before 3 o'clock on the plaza area a little south of were they installed the old Victor Richardson gates. She is my member of parliament and she knows and does some work with a good mate. Was umming and arghing whether to talk to her - she had what looked to be a thin plaster but a bandage on the outside of it, but just said - not a great place to be on crutches - she gave me a nervous smile and said, I know - then I said, good luck with getting around here today - she gave me a normal smile and said thanks. I continued on my journey to the East Gate entrance and thought of the Sir Robert Menzies words I did but see her passing by, and yet... then thought I can't finish off that sentence he told the Queen at a formal dinner in the early 1960's.

 

[TheArtfulTodger]

On AFL 360 they gave a stat of Melbourne's big losses since 2008 when Bailey got there.

21 losses over 76+ pts. Their 93 point loss on the weekend was only their 12th biggest in that period. I've said it before but that 11-13 = 79pts rd 1 last year should have been a 20 goal win. We smashed them like a 20 goal win and stuffed up their whole season.

In that time we have had 6
2008 -0, 2009 -1, 2010 -2, 2011 -3. That's it. Sure we have had 4 losses in low 70's.

It why I have been saying they and the Vic media, in particular Gary Lyon, can talk about doing a Port but they are starting from further back than us and the media don't understand we hit rock bottom in 2011 not 2012. Last year they lost 8 games by 76+pts and 7 in 2008, Bailey's first year. This year they will improve - but they can't do a Port until next year at the earliest.

The future of the Melbourne FC is a bit of a worry. They have been so so bad for such a long time with no end in sight. Now they have the master coach in Roos, what happens if they are still terrible by the end of next year? Will Roos continue? Who in their right mind would want to coach them then? You could be severely limiting your future coaching prospects if you took up that position. The players are mentally scarred and there are no players there that remember any kind of winning culture. Perhaps it doesn't matter how good the coach is, the players are just shot.

 

[RossFC]

Melbourne are pretty ok off the field in terms of finances. It's just poor list management.
I think the recruits over the offseason were terrific as compared to the year before. It will take them time though.

 

[RossFC]

Not sure if this has been mentioned.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n-the-afl-agenda/story-fni5f22o-1226862117538

 

[Seanybruz]

Not sure if this has been mentioned.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n-the-afl-agenda/story-fni5f22o-1226862117538

Tasmanian Devils (formerly Demons) sounds like a pretty good idea.

 

[Forzaport]

The future of the Melbourne FC is a bit of a worry. They have been so so bad for such a long time with no end in sight. Now they have the master coach in Roos, what happens if they are still terrible by the end of next year? Will Roos continue? Who in their right mind would want to coach them then? You could be severely limiting your future coaching prospects if you took up that position. The players are mentally scarred and there are no players there that remember any kind of winning culture. Perhaps it doesn't matter how good the coach is, the players are just shot.

Melbourne did a terrific job with their list management at the end of 2013. They'll suffer for 2012 and 2011 though. Imagine how bad they would have been against West Coast if they didn't bring in Tyson, Vince and Cross. They're at least on the right path now.

 

[RossFC]

If Hobart and Launceston was 1 hour apart instead of 2 1/2 hours, I have no doubt they would have had a team before GWS and Gold Coast.

 

[TheArtfulTodger]

Melbourne did a terrific job with their list management at the end of 2013. They'll suffer for 2012 and 2011 though. Imagine how bad they would have been against West Coast if they didn't bring in Tyson, Vince and Cross. They're at least on the right path now.

I'm not convinced. They bring in Dom Tyson, certainly a good player, but someone who came from GWS who have won even less games than Melbourne in the last 2 years. Then Cross who is likely on his last legs, and Vince who in my opinion is a great front runner and also getting on. Maybe they'll start turning it around in the 2nd half of the year as Roos gets them to play exactly how he wants them. But compare their journey since the last game of 2011 to ours. They were shite for years before that as well.

 

[edgie]

"as long as it is a team for all Tasmanians."

Sound familiar?

 

[Southern Son]

Left field: A tasmaian side could have 3 lots of memberships, Hobart, Launceston and Combined, play 5 games at each ground, those that want to travel the distance between, can. The team for all tasmanians, as long as they are happy with a smaller crowd size (see GWS and GC) , making it almost a national game!!

 

[edgie]

They would need to be sustainable from what could end up being the smallest membership numbers bar GC and GWS, meaning a clean stadium would be essential for their survival. Doable.

 

[Jim Dixon]

I'm really not keen on Melbourne being re-located. Their fans would lose out and the league would lose its whipping post/laughing stock. Let's get the GC and GWS bedded down before any more expansion.

 

[PAFC04]

After Reading the Carlton, Adelaide and now North Melbourne boards before each match, Still no one rates us.

If they do, they
do so at their own peril!!


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[Adam Marrett23]

Can someone recommend the best options for AFL Grand Final packages etc? Wanna get in early to go to this year's regardless if Port are there or not any help greatly appreciated thanks.

 

[FallingLiefs]

With all due respect - which is not much - you shouldn't really get 4 points for beating Melbourne at the moment.

Mark Neeld destroyed any prospect of a short to medium term turn around with his poor list management decisions. Got rid of Moloney, Martin, Rivers and a couple of others whilst simultaneously bringing in Rodan, Byrnes, Pederson and Dawes. Looked bad at the time, looks worse in hindsight. Meanwhile, they discarded high draft picks like Petterd, Bennell, Morton, etc, without ever really getting the best out of them. And whilst Mitch Clark was a good pick up, he has been cursed by injury and now personal issues pretty much from the moment he landed there.

Melbourne supporters must just despair.

even the Mitch Clark trade could have a negative spin on it. some people in WA were really critical of Fremantle chasing him with big money due to his offield issues so Melbourne would know some of the baggage he carries. i don't know how it works but they really get the shitness out of their players on a weekly and yearly basis. i liked them pre-season list wise, and their best 22 still seems ok. melbourne are just a blackhole of the competition. it's sad to see players such as Trengove, Toumpas, Scully being shadows of themselves and their potential.