2014 Trade/FA Discussions

jackess · Jul 31, 2014

chopperduck said:
Age is relative. Just look at Harvey and Fletcher. Some people slow at 30, others slow at 35. I think if Moloney was gone, we could look at him. Would get a year maybe 2 from him, and that would be enough. He would bring some different experiences for our young guys which could be good for their development.

Also if Ash and Stakes were moved on.

POBT · Jul 31, 2014

xplo said:
I know it's only a number, but Moloney is almost exactly 3 years younger than Ryan O'Keefe.

Yep but I wonder who is more likely to contribute for another year?

My thought process is around the midfield mix and age profile. A big bodied, mature midfielder is good on both fronts.

chopperduck · Jul 31, 2014

ROK can also play across HF, so fits Leppa's multi positional policy. He will be hungry for a chance after spending this year basically in the 2nds too.

chopperduck · Jul 31, 2014

jackess said:
Also if Ash and Stakes were moved on.

True, both you could argue could be in best 22 when fit, and I think ROK could slot into either role, rotating into the midfield.

jackess · Jul 31, 2014

Balony_pony16 said:
Ben Reid should be our main target... we could offer him a huge contract once we clean out the deadwood (goose, polks, bewick, lisle, Martin)

???

FRANK STALLONE · Jul 31, 2014

Haven't heard anyone mention Brad Sewell's name??
Seemingly in the outer with hawks injecting youth into their lineup, brings leadership from a winning culture and fairly sure a few years younger than ROK... A proven contested ball winner and if he could get his body right he may have a few seasons left

luthor · Jul 31, 2014

FRANK STALLONE said:
Haven't heard anyone mention Brad Sewell's name??
Seemingly in the outer with hawks injecting youth into their lineup, brings leadership from a winning culture and fairly sure a few years younger than ROK... A proven contested ball winner and if he could get his body right he may have a few seasons left

Would love Sewell at the Lions,

Type of player that would give 110%.

Younger, better and at least as driven as ROK.

I'm a huge fan :thumbsu:

jackess · Jul 31, 2014

FRANK STALLONE said:
Haven't heard anyone mention Brad Sewell's name??
Seemingly in the outer with hawks injecting youth into their lineup, brings leadership from a winning culture and fairly sure a few years younger than ROK... A proven contested ball winner and if he could get his body right he may have a few seasons left

Injuries would be a huge concern.

Balony_pony16 · Jul 31, 2014

jackess said:
???

Digging up old posts to repost out of context...Didn't take you for a troll mate

John_Proctor · Jul 31, 2014

Can't imagine we'd be intersted in rok or Sewell even if Beamer, stakes and McGrath all retire.

Also can't imagine either interested in us. As someone said rok to a contending team looking for a 30 goal a year player (freo to replace Sylvia!) and Sewell to a team needing a bit of grunt in the middle (north maybe to deal with their consistency issues?)

If contenders falls through more likely to be interested in Melbourne based teams with 10 available options. Eg Melbourne replacing Shannon Byrnes 'winning culture' spot on the list, saints replacing Hayes midfield general,

Scubaveg · Aug 3, 2014

Probably the wrong thread, and just throwing it out there. Would people trade Merrett and our first pick to GWS for pick2? Assuming Melbourne beat GWS in round 21. Now I like Daniel so don't get me wrong it just seems though we have what we need defensively now and he really is struggling as a forward. Interested in people's thoughts.

Toffee Lion · Aug 3, 2014

Scubaveg said:
Probably the wrong thread, and just throwing it out there. Would people trade Merrett and our first pick to GWS for pick2? Assuming Melbourne beat GWS in round 21. Now I like Daniel so don't get me wrong it just seems though we have what we need defensively now and he really is struggling as a forward. Interested in people's thoughts.

No, we are creating a culture here.

It was tattered when we shopped around Riska and Bradshaw then brought in Fevola.

Don't need to show the rest of the crop that if you stay for your whole career and remain loyal, we'll trade you up.

dlanod · Aug 3, 2014

Scubaveg said:
Probably the wrong thread, and just throwing it out there. Would people trade Merrett and our first pick to GWS for pick2? Assuming Melbourne beat GWS in round 21. Now I like Daniel so don't get me wrong it just seems though we have what we need defensively now and he really is struggling as a forward. Interested in people's thoughts.

Wisdom of trading Merrett aside, I don't see them being hugely interested in him. GWS has been pretty consistent in trading for younger players and signing older players as delisted free agents. Shaw and Mumford were both stars and both are only 28, whereas Merrett is 29 and coming off a pretty average year.

Harris Specter · Aug 3, 2014

Scubaveg said:
Probably the wrong thread, and just throwing it out there. Would people trade Merrett and our first pick to GWS for pick2? Assuming Melbourne beat GWS in round 21. Now I like Daniel so don't get me wrong it just seems though we have what we need defensively now and he really is struggling as a forward. Interested in people's thoughts.

People really do have poor memory. Not long ago, he was one of the competition's best fullbacks, and now that he's in a lean patch of form, suddenly he's up for trade?

POBT · Aug 3, 2014

I know he loves the club but I could see Merrett going for a move to GWS. If they signed him to play fullback every week, he might find that attractive. Plus he seems like the kind of guy who might be up for the experience of living in the big smoke.

I don't think GWS will give up much of value for him though.

QLDatHEART · Aug 3, 2014

Scubaveg said:
Probably the wrong thread, and just throwing it out there. Would people trade Merrett and our first pick to GWS for pick2? Assuming Melbourne beat GWS in round 21. Now I like Daniel so don't get me wrong it just seems though we have what we need defensively now and he really is struggling as a forward. Interested in people's thoughts.

No way.... I'll admitt that his form up forward isn't red hot and his silly aggressive incidents don't look good.... but he is a tough hard bodied 105kg beast who bleeds Maroon, blue and gold.
He crashes packs and hurts the opposition where our young guys can't yet.
I love him... keep him.

QLDatHEART · Aug 3, 2014

POBT said:
I know he loves the club but I could see Merrett going for a move to GWS. If they signed him to play fullback every week, he might find that attractive. Plus he seems like the kind of guy who might be up for the experience of living in the big smoke.

I don't think GWS will give up much of value for him though.

Nup.

scoman · Aug 3, 2014

Have to agree re: trading Merrett or Berger. We just don't have the luxury some clubs do in offering guys up for trade. Keeping guys here is hard enough already without having players on the list feeling vulnerable.

We will have to continue to work hard in the draft and offer picks if we want to secure mature age players.

pulpdriver · Aug 3, 2014

POBT said:
I know he loves the club but I could see Merrett going for a move to GWS. If they signed him to play fullback every week, he might find that attractive. Plus he seems like the kind of guy who might be up for the experience of living in the big smoke.

I don't think GWS will give up much of value for him though.

He's got two years left on his contract so either us or GWS would have to bring up to the option and considering the loyalty he's shown I can't see us doing that especially if it didn't seem like GWS weren't prepared to give up anything of value. I'd personally rather he stay. Woefully out of form but I'd back him to turn it around next year. When he's up and running he makes us a much better side. He seems to be a man without a position at the moment. No space in our well functioning defense and not really having an impact up forward. Could we use him as a Lachie Hansen style swingman?

Big Sauce 21 · Aug 3, 2014

Merrett will never be traded.

Slax · Aug 4, 2014

QLDatHEART said:
Only if another club forces them to use it.

That's a guarantee, top 5 pick in this draft if he went on the open market.

Slax · Aug 4, 2014

Big Sauce 21 said:
Merrett will never be traded.

Then just delist him.

Leuenburger? Martin is in AA form at the moment and is known to perform better as #1 ruck than playing elsewhere and being back-up. We have West who was playing well before going down injured. Sam Michael should be upgraded from the Rookie list and the end of the season, not sure where Patrick Wearden is at though. As good as he is, he is injury prone and we don't get close to a full season out of him. So if someone came asking what do people think he is worth? The other question is who out there needs a #1 ruckman?

Kevvo · Aug 4, 2014

Slax said:
Then just delist him.

*snip*

Really? Delist a big, experienced, former AA, well-loved single club player?

Sorry if you were being facetious and I misunderstood, but while the criticisms of Merrett's recent form are fair enough, I can't possibly see an argument to delist him.

Bucking Beads · Aug 4, 2014

Merrett has had a poor season but he still has value for us. If we delisted every player who had a bad run we'd have nobody on the list.

dlanod · Aug 4, 2014

Slax said:
Then just delist him.

Heh should've delisted Martin last year then. And Bewick. And Maguire. Definitely makes list management easier if we discard any previous form.

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