List Mgmt. Trade: Allen Christensen traded to Brisbane in exchange for National Draft selection no. 21
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Done.
Yes, but King was not a good example.
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Shake on it.
What are the Cats current top two picks?
I think (and only because only second rounders are on the table) that if we offered pick 11 we would ask for your second rounder in return as well, which is still better than what Brisbane should be able to offer.
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Can't we do a three way trade with West Coast and Brisbane where Geelong gets pick 11, Brisbane gets Bundy and West Coast gets ???
why doesn't that cut both ways? Sure, we may not have the leverage of a contract, but nor is Bundy an unrestricted free agent. If we are a strong club, the middle ground here is the draft. That's not preferable for any of the parties, so we have our share of leverage too.
Well if you want to explore your options, then don't re-sign before the season starts. Leave yourself uncontracted until seasons end. But of course, you take the risk associated with that, including injury and recruits. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Bundy is pissing on the club.
First he leads them on agreeing to terms, then he waits until it's well into trade week (after Greenwood, O'rourke etc have picked other clubs) to tell us he is leaving to QLD, then narrows it down to Brisbane because of $, even though he knows they have lower currency, all after he has done some personal mistakes..... and we are expected to be accommodating to him?
I can see why we were accommodating to club champions, I can see why we would let Lonergan go for the service he has done (even though I'd rather him stay) but there is NO WAY we should allow ourselves to be bent over by a player who has treated us this badly.
Our Christensen trading strategy should be:
1. Talk with Brisbane and get their best offer.
2a - if that offer is 21 and 25, or a gun player (unlikely) or a low teens first rounder (which they don't have) - accept.
2b - if that offer is 21 OR 25 - we tell them thanks but no thanks we give you to the weekend to come up with a plan to better it or we close talks and go to step 3.
3 - Sit Bundy down and tell him that given the reasons in my first paragraph, he will be required to nominate 2nd and third options because we are treating the club above the individual.
4 - Deal with other clubs (WC have pick 11, GWS have 7 & 19 plus surplus of young players, GC may yet throw in 15 last minute) and only go back to Brisbane if they up their offer.
First he leads them on agreeing to terms, then he waits until it's well into trade week (after Greenwood, O'rourke etc have picked other clubs) to tell us he is leaving to QLD, then narrows it down to Brisbane because of $, even though he knows they have lower currency, all after he has done some personal mistakes..... and we are expected to be accommodating to him?
I can see why we were accommodating to club champions, I can see why we would let Lonergan go for the service he has done (even though I'd rather him stay) but there is NO WAY we should allow ourselves to be bent over by a player who has treated us this badly.
Our Christensen trading strategy should be:
1. Talk with Brisbane and get their best offer.
2a - if that offer is 21 and 25, or a gun player (unlikely) or a low teens first rounder (which they don't have) - accept.
2b - if that offer is 21 OR 25 - we tell them thanks but no thanks we give you to the weekend to come up with a plan to better it or we close talks and go to step 3.
3 - Sit Bundy down and tell him that given the reasons in my first paragraph, he will be required to nominate 2nd and third options because we are treating the club above the individual.
4 - Deal with other clubs (WC have pick 11, GWS have 7 & 19 plus surplus of young players, GC may yet throw in 15 last minute) and only go back to Brisbane if they up their offer.
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How on earth is the draft "leverage"?
"Give us what we want or we'll take nothing"
Big leverage.
I did not have any ideas what Brisbane would send your way. Well do you know what can you get from Brisbane. eg Picks or Players?
Brisbane would say 21 is fair for 11
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History shows it's not much leverage at all. I'm just saying fairness isn't a consideration. Market forces will decide. We won't do better than 21. Accept it and move on.
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It's saying on the AFL app this morning that Bundy is contracted... I'm losing my freakin mind...
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If he's running away then surely Perth is as good a place as any, and we get a fair pick in return.
To have the audacity to nominate a club as an uncontracted player who for all indications was going to sign, I don't care what his personal issues are, he's a selfish, greedy little campaigner.
To have the audacity to nominate a club as an uncontracted player who for all indications was going to sign, I don't care what his personal issues are, he's a selfish, greedy little campaigner.
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So he can go somewhere else next year then.
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If he was contracted then picks in the 20s wouldn't be even discussed.
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How on earth is the draft "leverage"?
"Give us what we want or we'll take nothing"
Big leverage.
It's leverage because neither party gets what they want, as opposed to us apparently accepting whatever scraps Brisbane throw our way because we have "no other choice". Trust me, better to get nothing here than take serious unders. It will send a message that resonates within the walls of the club, and outside the club. Fair compensation, or you can choose to walk. That should be the option for Bundy and his club/s of choice.
Your Right. With Brisbane getting Christensen and Beams and with the midfielders that they have (Rockliff, Redden, Aish, Zorko ect) would mean there would be no room for Rich. Besides, he is from WA and would he want to move back home?
If that is the option, I'm happy for the market to decide via the draft, personally. I'd accept the stand and move on with a greater respect for our club. We just have different views here. You are of the school to grab whatever we can, whereas I only see the pitfalls in accepting unders.
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