Certified Legendary Thread Sympathy for *essendon - congratulations on '16 Wooden Spoon (RIP The Scales)

[Wild Bill]

Standard Essendon of late.

Find a problem, put up the dukes, talk a massive talk ... and then tamely submit. You'd think that given all the times they've knuckled under they'd figure out it looks less pathetic if they just acted rationally at the start.

Same thing with Crameri last year "we won't take less than the player is worth" nek minnet "we had to take less". Dodo is the most spineless recruiter that will continued to be played. The club is a joke.

 

[LT Smash]

But Jimms, that's a whole four players. For one player! Sure, there may be some quality/quantity issues at play, but they still got four times the players that they used to have in this trade period!

They get to play the 4 incoming players in the place of 1 right?

 

[Deleted member 98541]

Trade week over, let's return focus to the real task at hand.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Trade week over, let's return focus to the real task at hand.

EPL and watching bikini clad babes through binoculars.

 

[ozzyoslo]

Adam Baldwin ‏@adamwbaldwin
Cooney's relationship with James Hird was the clincher. @superfooty

Essendon FC ‏@EssendonFC
Dodoro: "Cooney was really impressed with our training facilities and wanted to play for James Hird."

MEME TIME!!!

It wouldn't have anything to do with * prepared to pay a larger % of Cooney's $400k a year than us??

 

[Roadrunner]

will get mouldy with age

 

[Supa_Nova]

I think I speak for most rational people when I say the players are the victims, and * have basically spat in the faces of everyone, ignoring and wrong doing or responsibility. sure, they MAY have no case to answer, but the fact that there is a case, cop it on the chin and be tactful. the last 3 years all they had to do in every media presser was simply say 'we were governed really poor. it has lead to us not knowing what happened during 2012. we have to pay for that.' but instead they say 'we werent governed right piss heads, leave ud alone were innocent of All drug charged to us. you cant prove anything coz we cant either!'

If cooney is impressed with that good luck to him

 

[Supa_Nova]

heraldsun reporting * thought it was unders for ryder but trading him was 'the right thing to do'

what, so he didnt sue and * got nothing for him? JUST ADMIT FOR ONCE IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT

 

[shintemaster]

I think I speak for most rational people when I say the players are the victims, and * have basically spat in the faces of everyone, ignoring and wrong doing or responsibility. sure, they MAY have no case to answer, but the fact that there is a case, cop it on the chin and be tactful. the last 3 years all they had to do in every media presser was simply say 'we were governed really poor. it has lead to us not knowing what happened during 2012. we have to pay for that.' but instead they say 'we werent governed right piss heads, leave ud alone were innocent of All drug charged to us. you cant prove anything coz we cant either!'

If cooney is impressed with that good luck to him

You don't speak for me.

This victim stuff is tiring. At best they went in with their eyes willingly closed.

 

[Higgins2Waite]

You don't speak for me.

This victim stuff is tiring. At best they went in with their eyes willingly closed.

yep. I don't accept this "willing to deal with us = early plea" business either. You had your chance now cop your full whack

 

[Only Forwards]

You don't speak for me.

This victim stuff is tiring. At best they went in with their eyes willingly closed.

I'll wear that for all of them except the first and maybe second year players who would probably have just accepted everything on face value given how thrilled they would have been just living out their dreams.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I'm not rational, but even l know going to * because of a good culture is ridiculous.

 

[Contra Mundum]

I'm not rational, but even l know going to * because of a good culture is ridiculous.

Yep and we get to keep Harper who will become a gun

 

[astrovic]

I think I speak for most rational people when I say the players are the victims, and * have basically spat in the faces of everyone, ignoring and wrong doing or responsibility. sure, they MAY have no case to answer, but the fact that there is a case, cop it on the chin and be tactful. the last 3 years all they had to do in every media presser was simply say 'we were governed really poor. it has lead to us not knowing what happened during 2012. we have to pay for that.' but instead they say 'we werent governed right piss heads, leave ud alone were innocent of All drug charged to us. you cant prove anything coz we cant either!'

If cooney is impressed with that good luck to him

Shintemaster is right. You don't speak for me either.

The players are not victims. They are personally responsible for every substance that goes into their bodies. If they choose to rely on what their club tells them, and not make their own independent inquiries, then that is a choice they make and a risk they take.

Nor could they say they didn't know that. Everyone knows that. The AFL runs education courses for the players about PED's and players' obligations and responsibilities.

They may have been dumb, naive, stupid and trusting, but they were not victims.

They have also been quite happy to have an each way bet throughout this saga. Hide behind club officials, wailing parents, the AFLPA...let everyone else do the heavy lifting for them. They were quite content to be represented in the Federal Court hearing, as an attempt to support *'s pitiful attempt to get the investigation quashed while at the same time not bringing their own court case and thereby jeopardising their ability down the track to cry victim and try and negotiate reduced sentences. It's a quite deliberate play on their part and any sympathy I might have had for the players (which was minimal to begin with) ended right there and then.

The players can go suck a fart. I don't know whether or not they took (note - not "given", but "took") PED's, and if they didn't then they didn't and that's fine. I suspect they did, but the case has a fair way to go and let's see how it plays out. What I do hope is that if it is found that they took PED's, then there is no lenience. No reduced bans for "providing assistance", cos they haven't assisted at all. No backdated bans due to the length of the investigation, cos it ain't ASADA's fault that * left such a dog's breakfast behind that ASADA has had a ****ing difficult job trying to figure out what actually happened. Just bans that are appropriate and consistent with every other athlete found to have taken similar substances.

 

[Higgins2Waite]

Shintemaster is right. You don't speak for me either.

The players are not victims. They are personally responsible for every substance that goes into their bodies. If they choose to rely on what their club tells them, and not make their own independent inquiries, then that is a choice they make and a risk they take.

Nor could they say they didn't know that. Everyone knows that. The AFL runs education courses for the players about PED's and players' obligations and responsibilities.

They may have been dumb, naive, stupid and trusting, but they were not victims.

They have also been quite happy to have an each way bet throughout this saga. Hide behind club officials, wailing parents, the AFLPA...let everyone else do the heavy lifting for them. They were quite content to be represented in the Federal Court hearing, as an attempt to support *'s pitiful attempt to get the investigation quashed while at the same time not bringing their own court case and thereby jeopardising their ability down the track to cry victim and try and negotiate reduced sentences. It's a quite deliberate play on their part and any sympathy I might have had for the players (which was minimal to begin with) ended right there and then.

The players can go suck a fart. I don't know whether or not they took (note - not "given", but "took") PED's, and if they didn't then they didn't and that's fine. I suspect they did, but the case has a fair way to go and let's see how it plays out. What I do hope is that if it is found that they took PED's, then there is no lenience. No reduced bans for "providing assistance", cos they haven't assisted at all. No backdated bans due to the length of the investigation, cos it ain't ASADA's fault that * left such a dog's breakfast behind that ASADA has had a ******* difficult job trying to figure out what actually happened. Just bans that are appropriate and consistent with every other athlete found to have taken similar substances.

 

[jeremy77]

Jimmy Turd!

 

[scooby1279]

I can't stand * as much as everyone on this board but for all the shit they are going through, how the **** do they still attract players they target. Cooney, Goddard, Chapman and they nearly got NDS last year.

 

[Contra Mundum]

I can't stand * as much as everyone on this board but for all the shit they are going through, how the **** do they still attract players they target. Cooney, Goddard, Chapman and they nearly got NDS last year.

Surely they are taking the piss when the * twitter feed says Cooney wants to play for James Hird!

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Surely they are taking the piss when the * twitter feed says Cooney wants to play for James Hird!

If he's such a fan of the Hird Football Club he was never going to fit in at Arden St.

 

[astrovic]

If he's such a fan of the Hird Football Club he was never going to fit in at Arden St.

That and the floors are too hard.

 

[Contra Mundum]

If he's such a fan of the Hird Football Club he was never going to fit in at Arden St.

He's the patrick bateman of AFL coaches - I bet you him and "I take lots of notes" slip into something comfortable and put on "Hip to be Square"

 

[Kimbo]

I think I speak for most rational people when I say the players are the victims, and * have basically spat in the faces of everyone, ignoring and wrong doing or responsibility. sure, they MAY have no case to answer, but the fact that there is a case, cop it on the chin and be tactful. the last 3 years all they had to do in every media presser was simply say 'we were governed really poor. it has lead to us not knowing what happened during 2012. we have to pay for that.' but instead they say 'we werent governed right piss heads, leave ud alone were innocent of All drug charged to us. you cant prove anything coz we cant either!'

If cooney is impressed with that good luck to him

I did euphemistically suggest Cooney was "intellectually chilled out" in an post earlier this week.

The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.

 

[utility]

Anybody else think 17+37 was overs? I know rucks carry a premium but I don't rate *Ryder that highly. Giles was a much better value for trade scenario.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I did euphemistically suggest Cooney was "intellectually chilled out" in an post earlier this week.

The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.

Drugs too.

 

[JD-Roo]

I wish Ryder all the best at Port with no ill feeling. During a really poorly organised Bombers family day, as their media lady was literally dragging him away by the arm, he stayed to continue autographs for kids that looked like missing out. He made my girls happy when he didn't have to. I'll always support him no matter who he plays for.