Interactive map of Victorian based members

[Hawkk]

I'm surprised there hasn't already been a thread made about this thus far, but...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/in...rship-heartlands/story-fni0fiyv-1227255772155

In terms of each club's membership concentration:

Adelaide - 75% within a 5km radius veering E/S of Melbourne
Brisbane - N/A
Carlton - 75% stretching from 4km to 22km N/NE of Melbourne
Collingwood - 2 clusters... one 6km to 14km N of Melbourne (45%), the other in the city centre (40%)
Essendon - high concentration in the western suburbs (50% stretching W/NW 5km to 25km)
Fremantle - scattered
Geelong - 90% within Geelong and the surrounding areas
Gold Coast - scattered
GWS Giants - scattered
Hawthorn - 80% stretching from 3km to 32km E/SE of Melbourne
North Melbourne - 45% stretching from 2km to 12km N of Melbourne (with Tassie the 4th highest concentration)
Melbourne - 70% stretching 3km to 20km E/SE of Melbourne and along the bayside
Port Adelaide - 70% scattered E/SE of Melbourne
Richmond - high concentration in the inner E/SE suburbs (70%) and bayside suburbs
St Kilda - 70% concentration trailing the bay (1/5 members bayside are St Kilda members)
Sydney Swans - scattered with a focus on the bay and in the SE suburbs
West Coast - scattered
Western Bulldogs - 100% veering W/NW of Melbourne

Interestingly North Melbourne have a higher concentration of members in Tasmania than Hawthorn according to the map.

Does any of this surprise you? How does it fit with popular / traditional supporter stereotypes?

 

[thegreig]

Hmmm a lot of people in another thread about St.Kilda being relocated were saying that the saints don't really have as much support as they claim around the bay but this map proves that they do. Also for those that think the doggies should change there name back to Footscray it should be noted that the top three suburbs for Western Bulldogs are Werribee, Hoppers Crossing and Caroline Springs.

 

[Pessimistic]

Hmmm a lot of people in another thread about St.Kilda being relocated were saying that the saints don't really have as much support as they claim around the bay but this map proves that they do. Also for those that think the doggies should change there name back to Footscray it should be noted that the top three suburbs for Western Bulldogs are Werribee, Hoppers Crossing and Caroline Springs.

Is it mischevous to not that north are there too ?

 

[Tas]

I'm surprised there hasn't already been a thread made about this thus far, but...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/in...rship-heartlands/story-fni0fiyv-1227255772155

In terms of each club's membership concentration:

Adelaide - 75% within a 5km radius veering E/S of Melbourne
Brisbane - N/A
Carlton - 75% stretching from 4km to 22km N/NE of Melbourne
Collingwood - 2 clusters... one 6km to 14km N of Melbourne (45%), the other in the city centre (40%)
Essendon - high concentration in the western suburbs (50% stretching W/NW 5km to 25km)
Fremantle - scattered
Geelong - 90% within Geelong and the surrounding areas
Gold Coast - scattered
GWS Giants - scattered
Hawthorn - 80% stretching from 3km to 32km E/SE of Melbourne
North Melbourne - 45% stretching from 2km to 12km N of Melbourne (with Tassie the 4th highest concentration)
Melbourne - 70% stretching 3km to 20km E/SE of Melbourne and along the bayside
Port Adelaide - 70% scattered E/SE of Melbourne
Richmond - high concentration in the inner E/SE suburbs (70%) and bayside suburbs
St Kilda - 70% concentration trailing the bay (1/5 members bayside are St Kilda members)
Sydney Swans - scattered with a focus on the bay and in the SE suburbs
West Coast - scattered
Western Bulldogs - 100% veering W/NW of Melbourne

Interestingly North Melbourne have a higher concentration of members in Tasmania than Hawthorn according to the map.

Does any of this surprise you? How does it fit with popular / traditional supporter stereotypes?

Hobart is much larger than Launceston, and Hawthorn have a much larger Victorian membership base so it is not surprising. Most of our heartland have been relatively small in terms of population base and just spread too thin everywhere else, I think the end of suburban football will be a boon for us long-term.

What is good to see is that our development regions in and around Werribee, Ballarat (now gone) and Tasmania have provided a significant impact since the AFL had given us funds to put into market development, for a long time while we had been breaking even we lacked the funds to spend on market growth.

Our top 4 regions are Point Cook, Werribee, Hoppers Crossing and Tarneit which are in the growth belt for Melbourne which is encouraging. I hope this is encouraging enough evidence to warrant future development in other growth regions.

It is probably not great news for the Dogs who also have Werribee, Point Cook, Hoppers Crossing and Tarneit in their 1 and 2 categories as well.

 

[Pessimistic]

Article says they are no longer traditional areas.

Probbaly havent been for a good thirty years either

The swans supporters picture is disturbing

 

[Tas]

Hmmm a lot of people in another thread about St.Kilda being relocated were saying that the saints don't really have as much support as they claim around the bay but this map proves that they do. Also for those that think the doggies should change there name back to Footscray it should be noted that the top three suburbs for Western Bulldogs are Werribee, Hoppers Crossing and Caroline Springs.

Saints have always had a lot of support around the bay.

The problem for the Dogs is that the Western suburbs geographically is too large a region for a club with their budget to hold on to. Wyndham is also recognised by the AFL as one of our expansion regions and in a relatively short space of time that region has gone from not much support to our largest concentration of members.

Geelong is hitting the western suburbs from the west, Essendon, Collingwood and others from the north and east, they are losing a lot of territory and they are losing it fast.

At least they have Ballarat now, although it does not have a very large population base there.

 

[go you pups]

Hobart is much larger than Launceston, and Hawthorn have a much larger Victorian membership base so it is not surprising. Most of our heartland have been relatively small in terms of population base and just spread too thin everywhere else, I think the end of suburban football will be a boon for us long-term.

What is good to see is that our development regions in and around Werribee, Ballarat (now gone) and Tasmania have provided a significant impact since the AFL had given us funds to put into market development, for a long time while we had been breaking even we lacked the funds to spend on market growth.

Our top 4 regions are Point Cook, Werribee, Hoppers Crossing and Tarneit which are in the growth belt for Melbourne which is encouraging. I hope this is encouraging enough evidence to warrant future development in other growth regions.

It is probably not great news for the Dogs who also have Werribee, Point Cook, Hoppers Crossing and Tarneit in their 1 and 2 categories as well.

North have always been third/fourth fiddle out west behind Essendon, The Dogs and Geelong. You guys won't tap into the north as its all Collingwood and Carlton and a lesser extent Essendon out there.

 

[Cmarsh]

So Australian football league members only inhabit Victoria then?

 

[go you pups]

So Australian football league members only inhabit Victoria then?

It was a poll based on Victorian based fans

 

[telsor]

North have always been third/fourth fiddle out west behind Essendon, The Dogs and Geelong. You guys won't tap into the north as its all Collingwood and Carlton and a lesser extent Essendon out there.

If North are competing for 'the west', then if they win (or even break even), it removes the rationale for the Bulldogs as 'the team of the west'

 

[telsor]

So Australian football league members only inhabit Victoria then?

You're upset that a Victorian newspaper is focusing on Victorian supporters?

 

[Cmarsh]

You're upset that a Victorian newspaper is focusing on Victorian supporters?

Would have thought it was relevant that for a polling that included non Vic clubs, then non Victorian members would be represented.

 

[Tas]

North have always been third/fourth fiddle out west behind Essendon, The Dogs and Geelong. You guys won't tap into the north as its all Collingwood and Carlton and a lesser extent Essendon out there.

AFL wont let us tap into Essendon's northern domain, the commission is largely filled with fat cat cronies that look after these clubs. Before settling on Ballarat we wanted to instead focus on Bendigo, given most of the Ballarat region was already strongly tied with Geelong, but we were not allowed to touch the territory belonging to Essendon.

People think I joke, but the biggest hurdle we have is the commission itself, they play Overlord in Victoria, they determine who gets a golden ride and who has to fight for crumbs.

Victoria should have no boundaries with each of the 10 clubs free to pursuit any market they want in their home territory.

 

[Prince Imperial]

There have always been supporters of other clubs living in the Western suburbs - Doug Hawkins, for example, grew up as a North supporter.

We are currently struggling on field and have been for the past three seasons and this is likely to continue for the next couple. Winning is everything in football and we need to rebound strongly from our current plight. The council areas of Melton and Wyndham are booming and if we do perform better we will grow our fan base substantially in these areas.

 

[Rushed_Behind]

Never even heard of half these places. Truganina, Cairnlea, Kings Park, Wyndham Vale, Seabrook.

 

[AstonSouffle]

You're upset that a Victorian newspaper is focusing on Victorian supporters?

Think he might have a bone to pick with the fact they just left out information on other clubs, despite clearly saying it was only Brisbane that didn't participate in the data collection.

Fyi, for those who care. No. 1 Suburb for Freo is Canning Vale and for the Eagles it's Dianella. Which more or less lends heavily to the idea it's become a North vs South of the river for majority support for WA teams.

 

[telsor]

Would have thought it was relevant that for a polling that included non Vic clubs, then non Victorian members would be represented.

So it would have been better if they'd just ignored non-vic clubs entirely rather than recognise that they also have support in Victoria?

 

[shintemaster]

If North are competing for 'the west', then if they win (or even break even), it removes the rationale for the Bulldogs as 'the team of the west'

Personally I think that (team of the west) is one of the biggest furphies going around, up there with Melbourne being untouchable because they are the first team and the only team named after the city. If either club disappeared tomorrow others would pick up the opportunity of supporting the “west” or the “city of Melbourne”. That is not in any way to suggest that I want that to happen. Just think it is an exercise in trying to convince themselves.

 

[telsor]

Think he might have a bone to pick with the fact they just left out information on other clubs, despite clearly saying it was only Brisbane that didn't participate in the data collection.

Fyi, for those who care. No. 1 Suburb for Freo is Canning Vale and for the Eagles it's Dianella. Which more or less lends heavily to the idea it's become a North vs South of the river for majority support for WA teams.

Do the WA newspapers give equal time/space to non-WA teams?

 

[telsor]

Personally I think that (team of the west) is one of the biggest furphies going around, up there with Melbourne being untouchable because they are the first team and the only team named after the city. If either club disappeared tomorrow others would pick up the opportunity of supporting the “west” or the “city of Melbourne”. That is not in any way to suggest that I want that to happen. Just think it is an exercise in trying to convince themselves.

Pretty much. Ultimately it's all about the $ the club brings in, both for itself and the league.

 

[Dazb86]

No surprise Werribee follows us. We are a s**t team.

 

[Cmarsh]

So it would have been better if they'd just ignored non-vic clubs entirely rather than recognise that they also have support in Victoria?

No, it would have been better if they represented all members by a map of Australia, because it is supposed to be a national league.

 

[JUBJUB]

So Australian football league members only inhabit Victoria then?

Calm down,it's just that nobody outside Victoria gives a s**t about the rest of you

 

[JUBJUB]

Never even heard of half these places. Truganina, Cairnlea, Kings Park, Wyndham Vale, Seabrook.

I only know of Truganina as the place where bodies often get found in paddocks or by the roadside,usually related to drug dealing.
Is it out past Werribee ?

 

[Hawkk]

So Australian football league members only inhabit Victoria then?

Your point being? Run a similar study in Western Sydney...