List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

[zeeCFC]

Hendo for Pick 9
Yarran for Lennon
Pick 20 for Plowman, Sumner, Lamb, Phillips
Pick 39 and 2016 2nd pick for Tomlinson and GWS 3rd pick
Bell for Brisbane 2016 2nd pick

Out: Judd, Carrazzo, Ellard, Watson, Giles, Henderson, Yarran, Bell, Warnock, +1 more

In: Lennon, Plowman, Tomlinson, Lamb, Phillips, Sumner, Weitering, Pick 9, Rice, Silvagni

2016 Out: 2nd pick
2016 In: Brisbane 2nd pick

 

[LordLucifer]

Hogan? Why are people talking about Hogan? We could have the first 5 picks and they wouldn't trade him. He's the very definition of untouchable

 

[Azul]

The only player from Hawthorn I'd want as steak-knives for pick 18 would be Pittonet, who's had 12 months development at Box Hill.

 

[F_therest]

Although it may be a blessing in disguise, its disappointing that the club missed out on two 'agreements':

1. Boyd - Apparently there was a handshake agreement we would get him this year
2. Carlisle - Posters keep saying we have been his preference all along until Saints came in with a massive offer recently.

Boyd for 900k is still way overs so not losing any sleep over that.

But Carlisle for 500k/3 years and only giving up pick 19 would have been a steal and a big win for us.

 

[DangerousD]

Exactly. So we should not be happy with just #18 for Yarran, just because its better than Richmonds 2nd rounder.

What do you realistically expect? Richmonds first is too high according to them, their second too low. 18 is first round even though its the last pick. Also how far do you read in to "it's a shallow draft" that might just mean there is no talent after pick 50 or 40 or 30, but my thoughts are the top 20 will still be class players.

 

[DangerousD]

The only player from Hawthorn I'd want as steak-knives for pick 18 would be Pittonet, who's had 12 months development at Box Hill.

Simpkin? Scicily?

 

[F_therest]

What do you realistically expect? Richmonds first is too high according to them, their second too low. 18 is first round even though its the last pick. Also how far do you read in to "it's a shallow draft" that might just mean there is no talent after pick 50 or 40 or 30, but my thoughts are the top 20 will still be class players.

From what i've read from posters who watch TAC Cup etc and post in the draft forum, even by pick 18 it will have already dropped away.

Hawthorn are the premiers and have successfully traded their first pick (around 18) for good established players too easily.
We should easily be able to at least squeeze some steak knives out of them, someone currently not in their best 22.

Even McEvoy was traded for 18 and Shane Savage…Yarran is better than McEvoy so i expect at least 18 and someone like Siciliy (if we want him)

 

[Matty411]

Yaz for #18 + Anderson or Sicily

 

[Blue By Blood]

Hendo for Pick 9
Yarran for Lennon
Pick 20 for Plowman, Sumner, Lamb, Phillips
Pick 39 and 2016 2nd pick for Tomlinson and GWS 3rd pick
Bell for Brisbane 2016 2nd pick

Out: Judd, Carrazzo, Ellard, Watson, Giles, Henderson, Yarran, Bell, Warnock, +1 more

In: Lennon, Plowman, Tomlinson, Lamb, Phillips, Sumner, Weitering, Pick 9, Rice, Silvagni

2016 Out: 2nd pick
2016 In: Brisbane 2nd pick

Would take more than that to get Tomlinson over the line I reckon.

 

[Azul]

Simpkin? Scicily?

Simpkin is almost 28. Sicily could be a player but I wouldn't put too much in an 8 goal performance against our VFL side.

We need a developing ruck and Pittonet ticks the boxes; it wouldn't hurt to ask.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Simpkin is almost 28. Sicily could be a player but I wouldn't put too much in an 8 goal performance against our VFL side.

We need a developing ruck and Pittonet ticks the boxes; it wouldn't hurt to ask.

I reckon Pittonet is a better prospect than Phillips based on what ive seen (which in fairness is pretty damn limited).

 

[ImCheatingToWin]

Yaz for #18 + Anderson or Sicily

absolutely no chance on either

 

[DangerousD]

Jake Bradley?

Oskar Manton isn't old enough, is he?

Jake Bradley is with Northern at the moment and went ok this year, nothing special, he is a small kid who took up footy late, i don't think he will be a 1st or 2nd round player.

 

[LordLucifer]

Also how far do you read in to "it's a shallow draft" that might just mean there is no talent after pick 50 or 40 or 30, but my thoughts are the top 20 will still be class players.

To be safe, we would need to load up inside the Top 15 picks, that way if it weakens around the 18-20 mark as many are saying, then we still get good players for our picks.

 

[Peter Bell]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-...to-name-st-kilda-as-his-preferred-destination

JAKE Carlisle appears set to nominate St Kilda as his preferred destination.

AFL.com.au understands the uncontracted Essendon swingman could inform the Saints as early as Thursday that he will be seeking a trade to the club, having also considered a move to Carlton.

 

[true blue19]

Yarran and Henderson to Hawks for Anderson, schoenmakers and pick 18

 

[DangerousD]

From what i've read from posters who watch TAC Cup etc and post in the draft forum, even by pick 18 it will have already dropped away.

Hawthorn are the premiers and have successfully traded their first pick (around 18) for good established players too easily.
We should easily be able to at least squeeze some steak knives out of them, someone currently not in their best 22.

Even McEvoy was traded for 18 and Shane Savage…Yarran is better than McEvoy so i expect at least 18 and someone like Siciliy (if we want him)

Totally agree, im not up to date on box hill to know who to target, but Bolts should. And while lots of people might be across the TAC cup in terms of rating players, how realistically can they be across the SANFL, WAFL, VFL, NEAFL and TAC cup and Tassie.

 

[F_therest]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-...to-name-st-kilda-as-his-preferred-destination

Happy the club didn't budge, but still sad news. Would love to have Carlisle at 500k/3 years.

 

[true blue19]

Then trade pick 18 +20 to GWS for Plowman, Tomlinson, Phillips, Sunmer and lamb

 

[zeeCFC]

The Age reporting Hawks won't trade their first or bring in Yarran/Hendo types.

 

[DangerousD]

To be safe, we would need to load up inside the Top 15 picks, that way if it weakens around the 18-20 mark as many are saying, then we still get good players for our picks.

I think we will be able to get a few picks in the top 21 and another in the 20-30 before trades. If SOS decides to trade pick 21 or say pick 18 if we get it from Hawthorn to me shows that he doesn't rate the draft.

 

[LordLucifer]

The Age reporting Hawks won't trade their first or bring in Yarran/Hendo types.

No-one saw the McEvoy trade coming either, maybe they are trying to hose down some speculation.

They'll do a trade or two, they are too smart not to.

 

[Burgers45]

Hendo for Pick 9
Yarran for Lennon
Pick 20 for Plowman, Sumner, Lamb, Phillips
Pick 39 and 2016 2nd pick for Tomlinson and GWS 3rd pick
Bell for Brisbane 2016 2nd pick

Out: Judd, Carrazzo, Ellard, Watson, Giles, Henderson, Yarran, Bell, Warnock, +1 more

In: Lennon, Plowman, Tomlinson, Lamb, Phillips, Sumner, Weitering, Pick 9, Rice, Silvagni

2016 Out: 2nd pick
2016 In: Brisbane 2nd pick

You haven't factored Carlisle into the equation?

 

[Matty411]

You haven't factored Carlisle into the equation?

I believe that's because it's unlikely Carlisle will be at Carlton in 2016 or beyond - reports that he'll choose Aints tomorrow.

 

[ferrisb]

Excuse me for interrupting guys, but the Lamb puns take me back to his time at the Swans. Watched him closely there, and he was a dot below the classy mids we had then. Also his tank a little light. EffortA1. Didn't follow him as much at GWS, but at the right price he could be a surprise packet. Thanks for the puns.

Glad you enjoyed the puns.

Personally, I thought they were not much chop. Was worried you were going to lambast us for them...