List Mgmt. 2015 LIST Discussion - trades, free agency etc

[SurreyBlue]

Don't like any of those Yarran deals.
Until we get something worth remotely his value, Bitchmond and Yarran can keep seperated.

 

[Faz 2000]

Would be a positive headline...

"Blues Send Warnock Away for Nothing".

Carlton today made another move to improve their list for 2016 and beyond by trading Robert Warnock for absolutely nothing.

"We really feel nothing has the upside and ability to contribute consistently that we need," Andrew McKay said.

Statistically Warnock and nothing are very similar, with Warnock holding a significant lead in hitouts but otherwise the two are all but indistinguishable. Factoring in the difference in salary between Warnock and nothing, the move makes total sense from the Blues' point of view.

Incoming coach Brendon Bolton also endorsed the move.

"I'm just getting to know all the guys, but I do have ideas and impressions formed from afar, and in my view I'd be more excited about working with nothing than Warnock."

Etc.

 

[CarltonFan]

We need 3-4 picks in the first round, it is not good enough to wait to get into the first round of future drafts due to projected strength.

The next 3 drafts we need to get at least 7 first rounders to be a serious shot at 2018 and beyond.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Richmond essentially give up nothing.

Lets be honest. if you are a Richmond supporter and you are giving up Astbury, 31 and 49 you'd feel like you are giving up something.

 

[ShanDog]

Rowe forward in 2016. Will kick 40.

 

[T2B_]

Rowe forward in 2016. Will kick 40.

Ball has to get there first

 

[KohPhi]

Rowe forward in 2016. Will kick 40.

40 what??

 

[RoyalParade]

Richardson on trade radio at 10.30

 

[Blue__Balls]

We need 3-4 picks in the first round, it is not good enough to wait to get into the first round of future drafts due to projected strength.

The next 3 drafts we need to get at least 7 first rounders to be a serious shot at 2018 and beyond.

So we shouldn't wait for future drafts...but we need to get into the next three drafts..?

Currency is limited, interest in our players is limited - if we can get a first rounder next year for each of Hendo and Yarran, it's better than a second rounder and change this year.

 

[cripppa9]

It's an exciting time for the club, we all know next year will suck with regards to wins but to watch a heap of kids begin to build us back up isn't so bad if we are finally doing it right. No quick fixes Carlton.

 

[Cringle]

Rowe forward in 2016. Will kick 40.

Not sure the Northern Blues have enough inside 50s for Rowe to kick that many..

 

[Soapy V]

Rowe forward in 2016. Will kick 40.

if casboult goes i reckon he could be valuable as a fwd/ruck with kruezer. Can create a contest and gives us flexibility. bit of a leigh brown type. no where near a gun but can play a role whilst some youngsters develop

 

[Blue__Balls]

40 what??

Michael Jamison, No. 40.

That's the only way Rowe gets a game next year, if he kicks and injures Jamo at training.

 

[Matty411]

Rowe forward in 2016. Will kick 40.

40 Balls? Great, so that might translate to... 8 goals?

 

[Crippa#9]

Rowe forward in 2016. Will kick 40.

in the Northern Blues....
Realistically, he should be delisted. Was horrendous this year.

 

[ImNavyBlue]

Rowe forward in 2016. Will kick 40.

seriously mr fumble who cant take an overhead mark! i love roweys spirt but he is pretty average

 

[T2B_]

in the Northern Blues....
Realistically, he should be delisted. Was horrendous this year.

Well, he wasn't horrendous every game, but that's the odd thing about him.

Some games he really lifts and does a huge job, defending well and taking intercepting marks. Other games he seems completely unco and all over the joint.

 

[true blue19]

I'm hoping that the yarran trade doesn't happen and we keep him and draft lemon in the pre season draft. Yarran has a massive year under Bolton and wins our B&f and signs on mid year and lemon kicks 40 goals and Richmond finishes 9th

 

[Robco]

I'm hoping that the yarran trade doesn't happen and we keep him and draft lemon in the pre season draft. Yarran has a massive year under Bolton and wins our B&f and signs on mid year and lemon kicks 40 goals and Richmond finishes 9th

As if Crippa won't go back to back

 

[KohPhi]

seriously mr fumble who cant take an overhead mark! i love roweys spirt but he is pretty average

Each to their own but keep it clean!

 

[ferrisb]

Not sure the Northern Blues have enough inside 50s for Rowe to kick that many..

Well, if Watson couldn't do it....

 

[Soapy V]

seriously mr fumble who cant take an overhead mark! i love roweys spirt but he is pretty average

role player. 20 goals and creating a contesting for others is his job

 

[ferrisb]

Well, he wasn't horrendous every game, but that's the odd thing about him.

Some games he really lifts and does a huge job, defending well and taking intercepting marks. Other games he seems completely unco and all over the joint.

Agree T.

I don't think Rowe is useless, but he did have some absolute stinkers this year.

Anyone got any thoughts on any patterns to explain the inconsistency? Was it injury, did he struggle against a particular kind of opponent or opposition gameplan. Or ours?

What can we do to maximise the good Rowe and limit the bad Rowe?

 

[Jimmae]

What can we do to maximise the good Rowe and limit the bad Rowe?

Get around him.

With a zone defence.

 

[Blue and Silver]

If I was to offer a brutal assessment of our list and players who I think aren't up to AFL scratch:

Sam Rowe
Liam Jones
Dennis Armfield
Jason Tutt
Robert Warnock
Simon White
Tom Fields

By not up to "scratch" I basically mean that they aren't going to be anything more than a bottom 2-3 player in a 22 for a competitive AFL side.

Their problems are varied, but generally you could summarise them as lacking strong disposal skills, several without intensity and others without composure.

Of the group Simon White and Armfield are the hardest done by