No Oppo Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

[Darealrath]

We need more NatRat. Taking up the fight. Belted one of the Carr's and now showing his passion.

We should send the CAS judges to live with him.

 

[Fear Boner]

So how come nobody told me who B4L's really is ?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Who the hell is Spitty Drizzle?

 

[Fear Boner]

Who the hell is Spitty Drizzle?

C'mon Rohan don't be shy

 

[Mercuri Rising]

That is both pretty funny, and asking for a re-doxxing at the same time.

 

[Atavistic]

View attachment 206719 So how come nobody told me who B4L's really is ?

Please never do that again. I have a problem with seeing Kochie's head so large and so close to my face.

 

[Matthew_Lloyd]

Who the hell is Spitty Drizzle?

A Norf fan who hilariously outed himself on the HTB a year or two ago

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Looks like they started at the default position of guilty and unless a magical unicorn appeared there was nothing that would change their mind.

Reading wada press reals ease just confirms the entire process was manipulated to go against Essendon. CAS basically said you are guilty. Prove you aren't.

We're guilty before we even ****ing showed up.

 

[northcote_cowboy]

A massive injustice awarded by CAS is suspending Froggy Davey and Jetta until Feb 2017. Is this because these guys played up in Darwin over the summer while others sat out? CAS mustn't take into consideration personal or cultural considerations. Those guys should not have a longer suspension.

Lastly, can the players sue Dank and Robinson (i.e. joint and severally liable)?

 

[yodellinhank]

The curious one is that CAS acknowledged there were 27 versions of Thymosin but elected to only gloss over why they believed TB4 was used on the players. This was no strand of evidence adding to the rope, just a piece of used dental floss.

The argument accepted was dank used tb4 before so our thymosin was tb4. Which makes the thymosin Melbourne used HEY LOOK JOBE WATSON'S BROWNLOW!

 

[quotemokc]

What obligation do local clubs have to these suspensions?

 

[pepsi]

I did say before the verdict I would accept the decision made by the cas. But over the last 24 hours I have grown quite cynical of the final result and how they got to it.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I did say before the verdict I would accept the decision made by the cas. But over the last 24 hours I have grown quite cynical of the final result and how they got to it.

If the reasons behind the ruling weren't such utter bullshit than I'd cop it.

But it's basically them forming an opinion based on nothing. "They may have done it so I guess they did. Proof? Ha **** it you prove you didn't do it"

Like I said it was manipulated to give wada precedence in future cases of similar nature. We were guilty before the 3 assholes of those blokes hit the chair.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

If the reasons behind the ruling weren't such utter bullshit than I'd cop it.

But it's basically them forming an opinion based on nothing. "They may have done it so I guess they did. Proof? Ha **** it you prove you didn't do it"

Like I said it was manipulated to give wada precedence in future cases of similar nature. We were guilty before the 3 assholes of those blokes hit the chair.

Disgraceful.

What I find hilarious is it took the players to get banned for the AFLPA to realise that the Wada code is not suited for our sport.

 

[Atavistic]

The argument accepted was dank used tb4 before so our thymosin was tb4. Which makes the thymosin Melbourne used HEY LOOK JOBE WATSON'S BROWNLOW!

You mean this?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...m/news-story/b1201773709d7eff90539af42eff28c6

But Dank said he basically took the Bombers’ supplement blueprint to the Demons, which included Thymomodulin, the drug Dank claimed he gave to Essendon players, but which ASADA, and now WADA, insists was Thymosin Beta 4.

I didn't even hear about this until now. It seems odd that you'd employ Dank to hep with sourcing vitamin B and C injections.

 

[Keystone agony]

Switzerland by any chance?

No

 

[Keystone agony]

Dank messaging the Melbourne doc regarding thymomodulin jabs and aod cream for use on Dees.

Surely this would be really strong evidence for his intentions with the essendon football club and players with what substances he was adopting to use.

 

[fishardansin]

Yeah but we have less currency now considering what happened to the players under our watch. Hooker and Myers will probably walk. Colyer, Hurley will ask to be traded and possibly a few others.

I reckon it's an all or nothing scenario with that. They will know that we have fast tracked the development of a few kids and have good draft picks from last draft and now, almost certainly, the following one. Then add the returning players to the list it should be a decent side. So either they want to stick together and prove a point coming off an 18 month preseason with some developed youth or they want to leave.

I really think it'll be an all in or nearly all out scenario. I just can't see Hooker, Hurley or Heppell going. As you say Watson and Stanton won't go anywhere else and either play on or retire. I imagine the anger they feel is not squarely at the club but they also share your feelings that it's crazy that they have a punishment to face after all of this.

 

[yaco55]

Some of the non Essendon commentators last night were suggesting EFC should cop even more sanctions including draft picks etc including Wheatley and King.

These guys cannot hold their hatred of EFC back.

This was laid to rest by the Gill AFL.

One small positive.

Such a silly argument and one unbefitting of media commentators - Did Fremantle or SKilda or Collingwood lose draft picks when their players their players failed drug tests.

 

[yaco55]

The sanctions we copped from the AFL were, as we all (including me) repeated time and time again, for governance. For putting our club and players in that position. They were not for taking anything illegal.

A club being found to have given 34 players prohibited drugs to not face any further action is in itself staggering. I see why it was done. But if they had decided to whack us again, I don't think we could've complained.

Why didn't the AFL whack StKilda or Collingwood or Fremantle when their players failed drug tests ?

 

[yaco55]

The club has already been found guilty by work cover. It is a fact that the players can sue for damages through the work cover system. No shadows just a fact.

I suggest that everything will be kept out of court.

 

[Mootsy]

Lordy, anyone else read the latest update from Jobe Watson and the team??

 

[yaco55]

Exposed health risks
Health damage (stress)
Missed potential earnings (match payments, finals, endorsements)
Unsafe workplace
Damage to reputation

Did you read the excellent post from the opposition poster on the previous page - Summed up more eloquently than what I posted a few days ago - You repeat something often enough and you believe its true.

 

[Atavistic]

Why didn't the AFL whack StKilda or Collingwood or Fremantle when their players failed drug tests ?

Because it was due to the players' own fault, not the clubs in question. I don't think the clubs were involved in any way in any of those cases.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Lordy, anyone else read the latest update from Jobe Watson and the team??

You mean this one?

It’s not over yet, warns Watson

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/es...s/news-story/6f0f16a2758358c64dfd080f1a005088

BANNED Essendon players are threatening to sue the AFL and Essendon unless they are paid up to $50 million compensation, as Bombers captain Jobe Watson says the players would explore all avenues.

“The decision announced by the Court of Arbitration for Sport to uphold WADA’s appeal is devastating,” Watson said in a statement.

“Our legal team is conducting a thorough review of the decision and will explore any avenues available to us.”

Agents and the AFL Players Association met later to thrash out a plan to push for payments for the 34 players.

Veteran agent Peter Jess called for the league to set up a welfare fund, particularly for the players no longer on the Bombers’ list.

He said the players could otherwise sue the AFL, the AFL Commission and Essendon for $30-40 million for breaching their duty of care.

“However, we are still doing the maths on that, so it could be as high as $50 million.

“The psychological impact from all this has been enormous, and now it’s moved to the financial impact,” Jess said.

“The 12 blokes who are still there get paid. The 17 who are not on a list don’t get anything and are in limbo.

“We need to act as a collective and make sure we understand the value. I would rather settle than (sue),” he said.

“The players are all very supportive of each other, but there’s still this mix of anger and confusion,” Jess said.

In a statement on behalf of the Essendon 34, Watson said the players’ legal team would conduct a “thorough review”.

“We are struggling to come to terms with this decision, and feel it does not support the players’ firm belief that we are innocent,” Watson said.

“The players would like to thank our families, our friends, our members and supporters for their unwavering support.”

Nathan Lovett-Murray declared online yesterday that the players would “fight this all the way” to clear their names.

He moved his family to Shepparton three weeks ago to be Aboriginal team Rumbalara’s playing coach — a job now out of bounds.

“To my Essendon team mates: we are not drug cheats,” he posted on Instagram.

“Do not give up the fight.”

Lovett-Murray’s father, Gary, said he had encouraged the 145-game player to pursue all legal options.

“He’s got over the shock, I suppose. He has now got to get methodical and professional and do what he’s got to do.

“He’s set himself on a path to coach in the AFL, so the first question is, does that stop?

“He’s getting fees from coaching and playing at the Rumbalara football club.