Peter Gordon explores Swiss appeal and injunction on suspension

[JackOutback]

fixed.

I don't know where I would go for my local lols without Essendon. Certainly not Here Come the Habibs.

 

[SBYM]

Overturned or set aside only twice.

6 were sent back to CAS for further consideration.

Do you have any idea what this figure represents in % terms?

 

[manboob]

Percel let's go!

 

[Garlic muncher]

Actually the 2010 anti doping code said no such thing, the AFL appeals tribunal procedures said that, however CAS is bound by its procedures not the AFL appeals tribunal procedures.

These grounds have been discussed here previously and found to be in error, CAS hearing cases de novo has gone to the Swiss surpeme court previously and they found CAS has the right to hear cases de novo.

Paragraph 114 of the award highlights the reason why CAS has this power, those precedent cases cited all got appealed, all failed.

He might be a decent football man, but suspect his comments are more PR than serious legal comments.

i was pretty sure this was a CAS site and CAS officials post here, now i am convinced

Most of the posters here don't even follow footy anyway, that was another clue.

 

[Thrawn]

oh wow, a law student. You have to be kidding, lol

Why so condescending? Considering someone like Chris Kaias has made some of the so called "experts" in the media look like absolute fools on legal matters, there's really no point bashing his credentials.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

1 AUD = 0.713657 CHF

that is one cheap centre half forward

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Why so condescending? Considering someone like Chris Kaias has made some of the so called "experts" in the media look like absolute fools on legal matters, there's really no point bashing his credentials.

he has? Where did this happen?

 

[Thrawn]

I am just pretending that this is some kind of double bluff

Interesting take. Please elaborate... what do you think Gordon is trying to get out of this? Apart from a new yacht.

 

[Thrawn]

he has? Where did this happen?

His FAQ, for starters.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I don't know where I would go for my local lols without Essendon. Certainly not Here Come the Habibs.

Just think about this for a second....

At some point, a boardroom of executives sat around their long table congratulating themselves over the concept of that car crash. They then approved thousands in production money and went about telling friends and family of what a fantastic new show they were about to create.

Not just one person, but a group of highly paid people signed off on that rubbish.


It's pretty amazing.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Interesting take. Please elaborate... what do you think Gordon is trying to get out of this? Apart from a new yacht.

ok, I'll elaborate:

 

[Lance Uppercut]

His FAQ, for starters.

his FAQ? How did that make anyone look like an idiot?

 

[JackOutback]

Just think about this for a second....

At some point, a boardroom of executives sat around their long table congratulating themselves over the concept of that car crash. They then approved thousands in production money and went about telling friends and family of what a fantastic new show they were about to create.

Not just one person, but a group of highly paid people signed off on that rubbish.


It's pretty amazing.

And yet it still makes more sense than this appeal.

 

[HBF]

pissingintothewind.jpg

 

[Garlic muncher]

Players are about as innocent as you are a Collingwood supporter.

LOL, Who do i barrack for then ?.

 

[Satan]

1 AUD = 0.713657 CHF

Chris may have to stay at a youth hostel

 

[Thrawn]

his FAQ? How did that make anyone look like an idiot?

Because it dispelled some of the myths that "experts" like Gordon kept on harping about ad infinitum. It also shows a horrible lack of knowledge from these people, and that a few of them are peddling an agenda rather than addressing the crux of the issue.

Seriously, this is a really dumb question. Are you playing dumb?

 

[ScrewInStuds]

I believe that I speak for most of Australia when I say: F*** off *ssendon, just f*** off. Take your right whack and let everyone move on. F*** you.




*I also thank you for Simpkin on behalf of my fantasy team

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Because it dispelled some of the myths that "experts" like Gordon kept on harping about ad infinitum. It also shows a horrible lack of knowledge from these people, and that a few of them are peddling an agenda rather than addressing the crux of the issue.

Seriously, this is a really dumb question. Are you playing dumb?

no, I'm just trying to understand how a person posting on BigFooty can make a totally unrelated person look stupid, and you sure haven't explained it. I'm with Armchair Critic on this one, the metaphorical sucking of Chris's wang on this is embarrassing. I'm sure he's a nice person and everything and he's done some fine work on twitter but ****, that's about where it ends

 

[SBYM]

Can't we all just get along?

 

[Garlic muncher]

I believe that I speak for most of Australia when I say: F*** off *ssendon, just f*** off. Take your right whack and let everyone move on. F*** you.




*I also thank you for Simpkin on behalf of my fantasy team

I think Australia said that about Lindy Chamberlain - just saying !

 

[JackOutback]

I think Australia said that about Lindy Chamberlain - just saying !

What a perfectly constructed analogy.

 

[Muggs]

i was pretty sure this was a CAS site and CAS officials post here, now i am convinced

Most of the posters here don't even follow footy anyway, that was another clue.

Seriously go and read the 2010 code and look for ANY reference on what are the grounds for appeals.

Than go and read what was ADDED in 2015, not changed but added...

Why was it added? Because in adding the section to the AFL anti-doping code it only applied to doping matters, rather than changing tribunal rules so all tribunal cases got a free double chance.

Than go read paragraph 114 of the award and learn something.

Than spend a day reading decisions on http://www.swissarbitrationdecisions.com to see how rare it's for CAS to get an award sent back, and even rarer declared void. Oh and while looking for them read the cases with grounds similar to what Gordon mentioned and notice they got knocked back.

There is your homework..

 

[Thrawn]

no, I'm just trying to understand how a person posting on BigFooty can make a totally unrelated person look stupid, and you sure haven't explained it. I'm with Armchair Critic on this one, the metaphorical sucking of Chris's wang on this is embarrassing. I'm sure he's a nice person and everything and he's done some fine work on twitter but ****, that's about where it ends

I've already explained to you how. Talking heads in the media, so called experienced lawyers, talk crap like how de novo shouldn't have applied. A law graduate cuts through all this BS and explains it for what it is, not for what someone with an obvious agenda is trying to spin.

My point is that even someone like a recent law graduate seems more reasoned, knowledgeable and logical than a veteran lawyer like Gordon who should know better. Hence why his little FAQ there made them look like incompetent fools. That isn't sucking on his wang, that's just stating facts that anyone with a brain can observe and take in.

So then it goes back to your ridiculously condescending post. The guy you were replying to was a law student/graduate. So what? You're just being a prick for the sake of it.

 

[SBYM]

What's my homework?