Roast The media....*Shakes Head* Part 4

[Jim Dixon]

Did we not beat Hawthorn at Etihad .. thought we played ok there that game ..

We have won 3 out of our last 4 at Docklands, compared to 4 losses out of our last 4 at the G. We haven't won at the MCG since the Elimination Final of 2013.

 

[Waspy79]

We have won 3 out of our last 4 at Docklands, compared to 4 losses out of our last 4 at the G. We haven't won at the MCG since the Elimination Final of 2013.

We were robbed in two of those 4.

 

[chiwigi]

It's ludicrous to create an oval of dimensions any different to Adelaide Oval, just to practise.

Fair enough put different lines in for each, but come on! WHAT A WASTE OF RESOURCES.

Oval dimensions are a very small aspect of any loss. The resources spent can be better spent elsewhere.

 

[Steve Dore]

It's ludicrous to create an oval of dimensions any different to Adelaide Oval, just to practise.

Fair enough put different lines in for each, but come on! WHAT A WASTE OF RESOURCES.

Oval dimensions are a very small aspect of any loss. The resources spent can be better spent elsewhere.

Exactly.

As Janus pointed out Etihad is slightly narrower and 10m shorter than Alberton Oval.

This is my issue with Alberton Oval - 170m x 130m. Compare that to the MCG (160x141m), Etihad (159.5m x 128.8m). The dimensions are perfect for playing at Adelaide Oval (167.05m x 123.93m) ......

So a very low cost solution to emulate the Etihad playing area is to put in a set of temporary goal posts 10m in from one end and draw an alternate boundary line (as evident in the internal trial highlights).

 

[Coobk001]

For mine, marking of lines in different places is a waste of time anyway. It is the feel of an oval, where the fences are and the distance perspective that enforces, the winds, the slopes, etc that make the difference.

You can't replicate that by marking different lines.

 

[Steve Dore]

...... I think Freo's new $109m facility shared with Curtain Uni .......

It's curtains for your auto-correct

 

[OneGreatClub]

For mine, marking of lines in different places is a waste of time anyway. It is the feel of an oval, where the fences are and the distance perspective that enforces, the winds, the slopes, etc that make the difference.

You can't replicate that by marking different lines.

Hence the disadvantage we would have playing at MCG

 

[Steve Dore]

For mine, marking of lines in different places is a waste of time anyway. It is the feel of an oval, where the fences are and the distance perspective that enforces, the winds, the slopes, etc that make the difference.

You can't replicate that by marking different lines.

Our goal kicking in the 2014 PF, especially the first quarter, is testament to this.

Port 13.16
Hawthorn 15.7

 

[Coobk001]

Our goal kicking in the 2014 PF, especially the first quarter, is testament to this.

Port 13.16
Hawthorn 15.7

Sitting behind the goals and watching the Hawks players use the swirling breeze perfectly when kicking for goal also highlighted it, I still remember Suckling kicking a ball from 40, sitting it up to the left of the goal face and allowing the swirling breeze to bring it back. They knew things we didn't and it hurt us.

 

[philreich]

We were robbed in two of those 4.

I don't feel like punching the TV very often, but I did last year when we played Carlton!!!

 

[OneGreatClub]

Sitting behind the goals and watching the Hawks players use the swirling breeze perfectly when kicking for goal also highlighted it, I still remember Suckling kicking a ball from 40, sitting it up to the left of the goal face and allowing the swirling breeze to bring it back. They knew things we didn't and it hurt us.

Another reason the GF should be played at the home ground of the top finishing team. Hawks were using drones at one stage to check out how they play
I wonder how mich this has assisted them in recent years too.

 

[Port01]

Sitting behind the goals and watching the Hawks players use the swirling breeze perfectly when kicking for goal also highlighted it, I still remember Suckling kicking a ball from 40, sitting it up to the left of the goal face and allowing the swirling breeze to bring it back. They knew things we didn't and it hurt us.

There is still a bit of luck involved.
2012 Hawthorn kicked 13.19 in the prelim and 11.15 in the gf which cost them
2013 15.15, 14.18 and 11.11 , but still won all 3 if not by a lot
2014 15.14 in qualifying

The vast majority of finals at the mcg their kicking has been average at best.

 

[Steve Dore]

I don't feel like punching the TV very often, but I didn last year when we played Carlton!!!

I felt like punching my TV also but unfortunately I was at the MCG at the time

 

[philreich]

There is still a bit of luck involved.
2012 Hawthorn kicked 13.19 in the prelim and 11.15 in the gf which cost them
2013 15.15, 14.18 and 11.11 , but still won all 3 if not by a lot
2014 15.14 in qualifying

The vast majority of finals at the mcg their kicking has been average at best.

They'll still be hard to beat this year, but I'd love a September rematch against them this year. They've got as much to fear about us, as we have about them.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Are we still going with this Hawthorn would be scared to meet us in September stuff?



Dear me.

 

[Cheesey Mac]

Sitting behind the goals and watching the Hawks players use the swirling breeze perfectly when kicking for goal also highlighted it, I still remember Suckling kicking a ball from 40, sitting it up to the left of the goal face and allowing the swirling breeze to bring it back. They knew things we didn't and it hurt us.

I may be wrong, but for some reason I can vividly recall us being told by the MCC that we couldn't train on the MCG prior to this game, then we kicked up a fuss, the MCC back-pedalled and we ended up not bothering anyway. With regards to use of the wind and the conditions of the ground this may have been beneficial given how poorly we kicked, and given it (probably) cost us the game.

This may have been the Geelong semi in 2013 though.

Am I imaging this?


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[Janus]

Exactly.

As Janus pointed out Etihad is slightly narrower and 10m shorter than Alberton Oval.



So a very low cost solution to emulate the Etihad playing area is to put in a set of temporary goal posts 10m in from one end and draw an alternate boundary line (as evident in the internal trial highlights).

That is exactly what I was suggesting. But you can't practice the width of the MCG on Alberton because it's physically too small.

 

[Janus]

For mine, marking of lines in different places is a waste of time anyway. It is the feel of an oval, where the fences are and the distance perspective that enforces, the winds, the slopes, etc that make the difference.

You can't replicate that by marking different lines.

While this is true, tactically it's easy to get caught in the pockets on the MCG because of the extra width. So no, it's not a "waste of time" - especially for a side that wants to use the width of the ground when the corridor is taken away. It's about practicing how to adapt tactically rather than trying to make it feel like a home ground.

 

[manureid]

Lets just get in to the finals first before we start planning who should be scared of us.

 

[AwesomeOllie]

What has this all got to do with shaking our head at the media?

 

[Eddie Dingle]

What has this all got to do with shaking our head at the media?

I was shaking my head while typing if that counts.

 

[LFC2010]

We were robbed in two of those 4.

M Nichols the campaigner, I hope he's retired this season!!!.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

That is exactly what I was suggesting. But you can't practice the width of the MCG on Alberton because it's physically too small.

A left field solution would be to mark out one half of the MCG and then pratice moving the ball through. Obviously it takes out the switch but it would give you a chance to practice working down one side in each direction.

I think regardless you would need some kind of temporary fencing to really get the feel.

 

[Coobk001]

I may be wrong, but for some reason I can vividly recall us being told by the MCC that we couldn't train on the MCG prior to this game, then we kicked up a fuss, the MCC back-pedalled and we ended up not bothering anyway. With regards to use of the wind and the conditions of the ground this may have been beneficial given how poorly we kicked, and given it (probably) cost us the game.

This may have been the Geelong semi in 2013 though.

Am I imaging this?


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No idea mate, I was too busy driving over with a hopeful smile on my face!

 

[Coobk001]

What has this all got to do with shaking our head at the media?

Media mentioned the dimensions of the ground we train on, convo mentioned the other grounds dimensions, discussion moved onto the impact of different ground on performance and then the conversation moved around to AwesomeOllie=illuminati