No Oppo Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

[ManWithNoName]

"angry farm". Funny deflection man, there's only one of us cussing here.

I think your assumption is telling. The way you've acted to the afl players, the male ones, about taking a drug that was prohibited only recently in much the same way compares quite starkly to your reaction to hot chick getting done

Well it wasn't a deflection, given I answered your post first. But righto.

Assumption in the absence of facts. Regarding the Essendon players, a LOT has come out. Re Sharapova at the time of my post, basically nothing had come out. To try and compare the two in that sense is ludicrous. You're basically implying I don't think Sharapova is guilty. She obviously is. I don't even get what point you're trying to make anymore actually.

 

[pepsi]

Not even a fan of sharapova, but on the surface this seems rough. Plays her whole career using this medication/drug, then bang they ban it and in her first and only tournament since the drug is now banned, she tests positive for it. There is something fishy going on.

Wada have long wanted a big scalp in tennis, I just find it interesting that out of all the top make and female players of the past 10 years, it's sharapova who is the one caught out. Forget about the 3 males who can compete in 5 hour matches back to back in a grand slam with less than 2 days recovery or the 1 female who id's the size of a brick shithouse and once avoided a drug test at home.

Hopefully sharapova gets no longer than 3 months.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Well it wasn't a deflection, given I answered your post first. But righto.

Assumption in the absence of facts. Regarding the Essendon players, a LOT has come out. Re Sharapova at the time of my post, basically nothing had come out. To try and compare the two in that sense is ludicrous. You're basically implying I don't think Sharapova is guilty. She obviously is. I don't even get what point you're trying to make anymore actually.

of course it was a deflection, you were trying to classify my post in such a way that it becomes not about your post, to try to discredit my comments. It's a blatant if poor debating technique that rather falls over when someone simply points out what's going on.

The "point I was trying to make" was that I'm scrolling down a thread about EFC and drugs in which you've been very vocal and to my incredulity there you are saying common sense says she's not a cheat and that a journalist in the paper saying she is is a "flog".

That was the "point I was trying to make". Obviously. If you wish to rescind that view in light of further information that's just wonderful, doesn't change your immediate assumption #flogsaregonnaflog

 

[Buttsoup_Barnes]

or the 1 female who id's the size of a brick shithouse and once avoided a drug test at home.

Heh, I remember the BALCO guys podcast on that.

 

[ManWithNoName]

of course it was a deflection, you were trying to classify my post in such a way that it becomes not about your post, to try to discredit my comments. It's a blatant if poor debating technique that rather falls over when someone simply points out what's going on.

The "point I was trying to make" was that I'm scrolling down a thread about EFC and drugs in which you've been very vocal and to my incredulity there you are saying common sense says she's not a cheat and that a journalist in the paper saying she is is a "flog".

That was the "point I was trying to make". Obviously. If you wish to rescind that view in light of further information that's just wonderful, doesn't change your immediate assumption #flogsaregonnaflog

Where did I mention journalists? When old mate said "it's started already" I assumed he meant HTB flogs. Hence "flogs gonna flog".

Common sense at the time says she's not a cheat as per how I earlier defined how I view a "cheat". Maybe you define it differently and see her as one. That's fine by me.

 

[IggypopsTshirt]

Finally the drug cheat thread is on the up. Welcome Maria

 

[boncer34]

Where did I mention journalists? When old mate said "it's started already" I assumed he meant HTB flogs. Hence "flogs gonna flog".

Common sense at the time says she's not a cheat as per how I earlier defined how I view a "cheat". Maybe you define it differently and see her as one. That's fine by me.

Interesting you're prepared to use common sense for Maria but "officially their cheats" for the 34.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

CAS have disrespected the decision of 3 highly respected Australian judges they can gagf.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Interesting you're prepared to use common sense for Maria but "officially their cheats" for the 34.

I don't think the 34 are drug "cheats" in my own personal view. But in terms of being cheats in breaking the rules, officially they are.
I can see why other people would call them that
I'm not really bothered by people calling the 34 "drug cheats" because it's so insignificant in the scheme of things
I think they're probably guilty. I can see why people would think different. That's fine

 

[boncer34]

I don't think the 34 are drug "cheats" in my own personal view. But in terms of being cheats in breaking the rules, officially they are.
I can see why other people would call them that
I'm not really bothered by people calling the 34 "drug cheats" because it's so insignificant in the scheme of things
I think they're probably guilty. I can see why people would think different. That's fine

Hmmmm very interesting post.

Completely ignored the double standards of "officially guilty" v "common sense" point that I was making but interesting none the less.

 

[DapperJong]

I don't think the 34 are drug "cheats" in my own personal view. But in terms of being cheats in breaking the rules, officially they are.
I can see why other people would call them that
I'm not really bothered by people calling the 34 "drug cheats" because it's so insignificant in the scheme of things
I think they're probably guilty. I can see why people would think different. That's fine

I'm the same as you. The whole intent thing.

 

[Doss]

CAS have disrespected the decision of 3 highly respected Australian judges they can gagf.

Mate, this whole 'disrespected' thing is a complete misnomer when it comes to CAS or the AFL tribunal or any other body in this whole mess. You need to stop saying it.

 

[boncer34]

Mate, this whole 'disrespected' thing is a complete misnomer when it comes to CAS or the AFL tribunal or any other body in this whole mess. You need to stop saying it.

I feel you're wasting your time.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Hmmmm very interesting post.

Completely ignored the double standards of "officially guilty" v "common sense" point that I was making but interesting none the less.

Maybe you and I define "cheat" differently. Or "guilty" differently. Idk. I just don't see it as that big a deal, that we think different things. This is what I think. You think something different. Lance might think something different again. And that's okay.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Mate, this whole 'disrespected' thing is a complete misnomer when it comes to CAS or the AFL tribunal or any other body in this whole mess. You need to stop saying it.

So I can't show my displeasure at CAS/Wada/Asada.

 

[Harlequin]

So I can't show my displeasure at CAS/Wada/Asada.

Of course you can

But you keep rolling out the same spiel

 

[Loonerty]

So I can't show my displeasure at CAS/Wada/Asada.

Of course you can. But saying they "disrespected" the other judges by doing their job is a bit ridiculous.

 

[yodellinhank]

Why don't we change our name also.

How about Strathmore Condors and we'll wear green and blue.

Vertical stripes below a black silhouette of wings across the chest. Home and away jumpers can alternate between majority green and blue (the top section and sides).

Theme song (to tune of "with cat like tread")

From Strathmore town, and parts of Glenbervie
the Condors hail, a young and fearless team
no qualms at all, with flogging enemies
the best football that you will ever see

Skillful players fill the team, we run the others off their feet

Come, one and all to see
The best team in the nation, despite the allegations
Come, one and all to see
The Condors soar to victory!

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Of course you can. But saying they "disrespected" the other judges by doing their job is a bit ridiculous.

Well I think they have if people don't agree with me then that's fine.

 

[Loonerty]

Well I think they have if people don't agree with me then that's fine.

Okay. But you don't need to say it so often.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Okay. But you don't need to say it so often.

Only said it because my post got deleted.

 

[Loonerty]

Only said it because my post got deleted.

...

 

[tesla1962]

Of course you can. But saying they "disrespected" the other judges by doing their job is a bit ridiculous.

WADA were well within their scope to appeal the decision to CAS. After the AFL tribunal the rhetoric coming out of mcdevitt painted a picture that ASADA wanted the whole thing taken away from anything to do with the AFL. This may have been interpreted as showing ASADA's disrespect of its own process or mistrust of the afl tribunal. Mcdevitt was asked at senate estimates why ASADA didn't appeal. His answer IIRC was along the lines of it would have cost too much money. I think there are a few ways to look at what transpired.

 

[boncer34]

Maybe you and I define "cheat" differently. Or "guilty" differently. Idk. I just don't see it as that big a deal, that we think different things. This is what I think. You think something different. Lance might think something different again. And that's okay.

Again interesting but again you ignored the actual point raised. I feel you won't ever address it.

 

[Beerfish]

Not sure if this has been posted..

The NRL is set to proceed against the "forgotten Cronulla five", the handful of Sharks players who declined a "doped and duped" deal with ASADA that saw many of their teammates serve a three-game suspension in 2014.

Lawyers for the five players – Colin Best, Paul Aiton, Ben Pomeroy, John Williams and Stuart Flanagan - were served by the NRL with violation notices on Monday.

The players will be given two weeks to respond and face a potential two-year ban.



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