Rumour GFC 2016 Player Trading, Drafting, FA, Rumours, and Wish lists.

[catempire]

It would be difficult but not insuperable, eg by backloading his contract even past the end of his foreseeable career, as they've done with Franklin.

Good luck to them if they can manage it. I agree, it would be difficult (I'd say nearly impossible).

 

[Lana]

That all sounds fair to me.

Me to, but at the end of the season

 

[ChookNorris]

But if Richmond is willing to trade Deledio now they would be at the end of the season. I don't think they would, FWIW. And besides, top clubs don't have the cap space to bring in a player of that calibre mid-season.

Aren't the dogs still paying griffins contract though? Good clubs do things well, and exploit every advantage possible. I just dont see the advantage of a mid season draft overall other than for more media saturation.

 

[catempire]

Me to, but at the end of the season

Don't see how it's any fairer at the end than in the middle.

 

[catempire]

Aren't the dogs still paying griffins contract though? Good clubs do things well, and exploit every advantage possible. I just dont see the advantage of a mid season draft overall other than for more media saturation.

And good clubs should be able to benefit from the tools at their disposal.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Good luck to them if they can manage it. I agree, it would be difficult (I'd say nearly impossible).

I think it's worth noting that, according to the cited report, list managers are strongly in favour of it. This suggests to me that they see ways it can confer significant advantages, and that it can be made to work; and I doubt that this would be the case if they were just thinking about trading in 2nds players.

 

[ChookNorris]

And good clubs should be able to benefit from the tools at their disposal.

Completely fair, but it will widen the gap between top and bottom i feel.

 

[catempire]

I think it's worth noting that, according to the cited report, list managers are strongly in favour of it. This suggests to me that they see ways it can confer significant advantages, and that it can be made to work; and I doubt that this would be the case if they were just thinking about trading in 2nds players.

List managers want to be able to fix problems that they currently have to wait until the end of the season to do.

 

[Lana]

Don't see how it's any fairer at the end than in the middle.

I think it is just another mechanism to create a talent drain from bottom teams to top teams. At least a the end of the year there is less certainty about the short term future the risk of a Freemantle style collapse provides enough of counter.

 

[Baudolino]

Even if I agreed that the football advantages of a mid-season trade period outweighed the negatives (and I really, really don't due to a whole host of factors), I would still oppose it for the single, simple reason that the speculation and rumour and innuendo and media hysteria and hype we would have to put up with re: trades would be insufferable and never-ending under such a system. I don't mind a little bit of in-season trade talk, and it's inevitable that there's always going to be a small amount of it even under the current set-up, but for the most part the March to October should be all about the football itself.

 

[catempire]

I think it is just another mechanism to create a talent drain from bottom teams to top teams. At least a the end of the year there is less certainty about the short term future the risk of a Freemantle style collapse provides enough of counter.

This makes no sense to me whatsoever.

If there was a mid-season draft held this year Fremantle would not sell off any more than they would in October.

 

[catempire]

Even if I agreed that the football advantages of a mid-season trade period outweighed the negatives (and I really, really don't due to a whole host of factors), I would still oppose it for the single, simple reason that the speculation and rumour and innuendo and media hysteria and hype we would have to put up with re: trades would be insufferable and never-ending under such a system. I don't mind a little bit of in-season trade talk, and it's inevitable that there's always going to be a small amount of it even under the current set-up, but for the most part the March to October should be all about the football itself.

I've got no problem with this view. I actually think it's the only robust counter-argument to a mid-season draft. But, by its nature, it's not one the AFL will be concerned with which is why we are certain to get mid-season drafts from as soon as 2017.

 

[Baudolino]

I actually think it's the only robust counter-argument to a mid-season draft.

IMO there are numerous robust counter-arguments to be made against it based entirely on football reasons, most of which I outlined on the other page. But I feel we'll probably just have to agree to disagree on that.

Which is why we are certain to get mid-season drafts from as soon as 2017.

This part I'm in total agreement with. It's definitely inevitable. As much as I hate the idea.

 

[catempire]

IMO there are numerous robust counter-arguments to be made against it based entirely on football reasons, most of which I outlined on the other page. But I feel we'll probably just have to agree to disagree on that.

Correct. I disagree that we will see the problems that not only you but anyone else has foreshadowed.

I think it will be a pretty minor change in the scheme of things. I doubt we will see a lot of movement but what we do see will add something to what we have now.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

What is the "WA Rumour file" exactly?

A segment on one of the radio stations GFrost - not many are validated in the end though

 

[dazbroncos]

Even if I agreed that the football advantages of a mid-season trade period outweighed the negatives (and I really, really don't due to a whole host of factors), I would still oppose it for the single, simple reason that the speculation and rumour and innuendo and media hysteria and hype we would have to put up with re: trades would be insufferable and never-ending under such a system. I don't mind a little bit of in-season trade talk, and it's inevitable that there's always going to be a small amount of it even under the current set-up, but for the most part the March to October should be all about the football itself.

This..

I want to keep the silly season contained to the 3 months at seasons end.

Having it go year round.... too much IMO.

And not that the GFC is bottom team, but I fear that the good players in the bottom teams will look for ways out twice a year in this case.

I know things change and thats all well and good - im just not convinced that this, seemingly for the sake of it, adds much to the process.

I get that teams looking for players can upgrade in theory but is it really an effectual upgrade.

Its taken PFD and ZS 6-7 months to gel with Sel etc - and its still not really perfect. Getting a bloke in mid July for the last 10 weeks.....

Nah... not my cup of tea - or for the younguns, my flavour of Frappachino.

Go Catters

 

[bigblackboz]

It's nearly time for a dinner party

So no mummy of all dinners then? Just a regular dinner? Or is it another dinner?

 

[bigblackboz]

I can't see Gaff going to Essendon even if big $$ and Woosha. The club is screwed.

Duncan, I'd hate to lose him and for pick 10, go and get stuffed. We need to win now, unless it was Gaff but pick 10 is useless to Geelong and what they are trying to achieve. If another player is lined up, maybe.

Its all bullshit IMO.

 

[Jon Douglas]

No way will Duncan leave GFC. He is an excellent player and will play in more finals at Cat land than wherever he could go.

I believe that GFC need to draft, either by the National draft or thru trading - 2 B+ or A grade player every year on average. No matter how you go in a given year - even if you win the Premiership.

Now we got Danger an A+ player, Smith who is at least a B+ player and Henderson (B+) last season - so 3 players. The difference all have just come in because they were experienced players already. Then we have Scooter who I believe will be a B+ player for us. So 4 players in a season. Tick, tick, tick.

That means with Thurlow coming back next season we do not have to get an A or B+ player for next season. But it would be great if we can get a decent player in our compromised draft later this year. And then we have the opportunity with all our picks available again and 4 potential Father and Sons available the following year - we get 2 A or B+ players (that may take 2-3 years to come on). If we can do this our premiership window will remain open for half a decade IMO.

 

[Hood007]

If Gaff wanted out and if Duncan wanted to go home, I'd do a straight swap.
Would hate to lose Mitch but I think that's the best return we could hope for...

Although I think Gaff is a bit (a lot) soft so...

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Trading Duncan. Spare me. not going to happen.

 

[catempire]

Trading Duncan. Spare me. not going to happen.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...

...silly season has started early this year, eh?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I've said it before, I'll say it again...

...silly season has started early this year, eh?

I should used to it by now. Summer transfer window too

 

[FredLeDeux]

I've said it before, I'll say it again...

...silly season has started early this year, eh?

And it's always the same bloke, it's not the Silly Season, it's the Duncan Season.

 

[Hood007]

Trading Duncan. Spare me. not going to happen.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...

...silly season has started early this year, eh?

And it's always the same bloke, it's not the Silly Season, it's the Duncan Season.

To be fair, it's seemingly come from something called the WA Rumour File...