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TheSheik said:
I'm not advocating the trading in of Smedts, just the fact that we should win out on our investment in Tuohy.
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I agree Sheik, I think we should try to ship him to Port for Toumpas, personally. International Rookie for a former 4th pick. #winning.
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
You wouldn't trade Eddie Betts for Jack Trengove or Jonothan O'Rourke?
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Of course I would. :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:

TheSheik said:
I'm not advocating the trading in of Smedts, just the fact that we should win out on our investment in Tuohy.
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And I'm advocating for you to check yourself into a mental asylum if you truly believe that. :eek:
 
It would be more like selling stock at $50 that you bought for $5 years ago just to buy stock at $10 that is unlikely to do much. Except you don't get to pocket the $40 difference.
 

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ShanDog said:
It would be more like selling stock at $50 that you bought for $5 years ago just to buy stock at $10 that is unlikely to do much. Except you don't get to pocket the $40 difference.
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Close to the theory but in that example, we shouldn't be content with the $10 stock.

If we are going to trade Tuohy out, then we should be getting the $50 stock (whoever that is).
 
TheSheik said:
Close to the theory but in that example, we shouldn't be content with the $10 stock.

If we are going to trade Tuohy out, then we should be getting the $50 stock (whoever that is).
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Yeah exactly. Maybe I've missed something but people aren't convinced Smedts is that stock, which I would agree.
 
You can argue that we have got good value out of Tuohy as a former Cat B rookie. That is very true.

You can't argue that we have won out because we turned a rookie into a former first round draft pick if that former first round draft pick is not as good as Tuohy is now.

If we got an actual first round draft pick for Tuohy though .... we won.
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
You can argue that we have got good value out of Tuohy as a former Cat B rookie. That is very true.

You can't argue that we have won out because we turned a rookie into a former first round draft pick if that former first round draft pick is not as good as Tuohy is now.

If we got an actual first round draft pick for Tuohy though .... we won.
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No shit Sherlock ......... :eek:
 

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Not sure what you're arguing TheSheik

Tuohy has runs on the board and Smedts doesn't.
Smedts is 24 now and not a 20 year old that has a huge upside.

That trade would be a shocker for us and no selection numbers are going to make an ounce of difference.
 
HARKER said:
Not sure what you're arguing TheSheik

Tuohy has runs on the board and Smedts doesn't.
Smedts is 24 now and not a 20 year old that has a huge upside.

That trade would be a shocker for us and no selection numbers are going to make an ounce of difference.
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FFS, read some other posts before this would you !!!!! :rolleyes:

I don't want Smedts either !!!!!
 
TheSheik said:
FFS, read some other posts before this would you !!!!! :rolleyes:

I don't want Smedts either !!!!!
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Smedts isn't the issue. It's the logic that trading rookie for a former first rounder is not too shabby that is being argued against.

TheSheik said:
Sounds like the Tuohy for Smedts deal has some serious legs which on the surface sounds bad. Tuohy was an international rookie, Smedts was a first-round selection so if you look at it that way it's not too shabby.

I am not enamoured with having Smedts at the club so I'll have to accept that our people will make the right decision.
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Posts are up for debate surely?
 
TheSheik said:
Which part of that is suggesting I am pro-Smedts ??
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TheSheik said:
Sounds like the Tuohy for Smedts deal has some serious legs which on the surface sounds bad. Tuohy was an international rookie, Smedts was a first-round selection so if you look at it that way it's not too shabby.
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Which part of that suggests you don't believe the trade is not so shabby on the basis of Smedts being a former first rounder. Smedts doesn't matter. Insert the name of any failed first rounder if you like and re-read it. That is what is being argued against.
 

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The Old Dark Navy's said:
Which part of that suggests you don't believe the trade is not so shabby on the basis of Smedts being a former first rounder. Smedts doesn't matter. Insert the name of any failed first rounder if you like and re-read it. That is what is being argued against.
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Smedts as a stand alone former first-round selection sounds great, Smedts with a record of injury and lacking in game continuity is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
I'd rather bank a few mid-range picks than pick up Smedts. It'd be a good test for SOS to see if he can find a couple of good players, as most good recruiters can at any stage of the draft. If our hand is forced, that is the best option.

Not only is Billy injury prone, he's average and not getting better.
 

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