Traded Jaeger O'Meara [traded to Hawthorn for pick 10 and GWS's 2017 2nd rd pick]

[Nuggs Bunny]

Would there be a reason to be here if not for this?

I don't know, I guess a crazy idealist like me thought for a second we could talk sensibly and maybe all get along for a change. But some people clearly come here to vent.

 

[Myles]

interesting to see Cochrane being pilloried for doing nothing more than standing up for a struggling and stuttering new franchise

if it was Kevin Sheedy, we'd all be saying 'good work Sheeds'...Cohrane is obviously not in Sheeds' class when it comes to verbal dexterity but you can't doubt his passion or his pluck

as to why no other club Chairmen behave this way? well, desperate times call for desperate measures and things have rarely been more desperate than the current state of AFL in Queensland #deadcanary

No I think it's cos someone said no to Hawthorn, they don't like that.

 

[yeahmate]

You mean like how the Hawks said to the Suns hay we are talking to judus OMeara 12 months ago

Maybe you taught us to just to just blind side like without integrity

No you learned that when you poached Ablett from the Cats

 

[bumsonseats]

how did you lot get so bitter so fast, 70k members, book mark 50 k in 2 years, move to Tassie on 10 years

Haha......from a guy who follows a club with 5 members and will fold within 2 years.......quality

 

[Myles]

Haha......from a guy who follows a club with 5 members and will fold within 2 years.......quality

There's at least 20 or so members in the Suns BF board so you are already wrong.

 

[HairyO]

I don't know, I guess a crazy idealist like me thought for a second we could talk sensibly and maybe all get along for a change. But some people clearly come here to vent.

I think we are merely mimicking the clubs themselves.

Hundreds of posts from people saying "hahahaha suck it Hawthorn you suck" is only going to get similar responses from Hawthorn supporters.

 

[threesixpio]

I don't know, I guess a crazy idealist like me thought for a second we could talk sensibly and maybe all get along for a change. But some people clearly come here to vent.

Its pretty hard not to talk about how shit they are - its a pretty important fact

 

[threesixpio]

There's at least 20 or so members in the Suns BF board so you are already wrong.

All aliases

 

[Madness101]

Would love to see Richmond offer pick 15 + 24 and get him. Would make for an interesting 2017

 

[Messenger]

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A fair trade/ to watch everything burn.

He's got the matches and petrol ready I'd say.

 

[bumsonseats]

There's at least 20 or so members in the Suns BF board so you are already wrong.

Alias's don't count

 

[bumsonseats]

Would love to see Richmond offer pick 15 + 24 and get him. Would make for an interesting 2017

What's that roughly equivalent to.....10 and 48...?????

 

[Adz]

Will sign with Essendon. Won't risk the draft.

 

[Myles]

Alias's don't count

Then how did Hawthorn reach 69k?

 

[threesixpio]

Btw: I'm not anti-expansion - I'd be okay with the GC being a half decent team

 

[The Falcon Strike]

So nothing is better than something? If that's what you really think that's ridiculous.

If you demand that someone is worth 2 first rounders/first rounder and a player and then accept nothing - you're doing it wrong.

Port did precisely that, subsequently won a flag and haven't been pigrooted at the trade table since

GC don't weant a scenario where like Brisbane they become the feeder club of talent for unders in every trade

So letting omeara go to the draft is not getting "nothing" / it is an investment in future deals the suns are involved in

 

[BigJoeD_]

Geez, reckon Paul's delved into the archives for that profile pic

 

[Myles]

What's that roughly equivalent to.....10 and 48...?????

A bit more than **** all and a little less than half a bag of smiths chips.

 

[19thcrow]

3 way trade idea.
Suns out: O'Meara,
In: pick 10, Lyons, 2017 2nd
Hawks out: pick 10, 1 of Sheils, Burton or Smith
In: O'Meara
Crows out: Lyons, 2017 2nd
In: 1 of shiels, Burton or Smith

Option for hawthorn if not Lyons for pick 26 without Hawks involved.

 

[bumsonseats]

Then how did Hawthorn reach 69k?

Dogs and cats apparently earn quite a wage in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne, but don't you worry about that. 69 with 3 zeros is a big number you can never hope to achieve

 

[Procrastinator35]

Maybe I don't know, acting your age, actually providing serious discussion, understanding opposing viewpoints. But no we have classic one liners like Cockrane in here, Comedy gold.

You blokes just don't get that this man epitomizes your unprofessional culture....You've only been in the comp less than a decade, so it's understandable...But until you recognize that the fish rots from the head down, then nothing is going to change at your club.

 

[Prudster]

Then include anti poaching rules so clubs can only talk to players that aren't under their contracts during Trade and FA time. It will stop a whole lot of situations like this where clubs promise players everything then can't find the right capital to get the trade through. Sure it might be the Suns fault we can't attract talent but it isn't our fault the Hawks can't find a deal that matches our wishes.

What difference will that make? As long as there are players who want to go to clubs who can't (or won't) pay what their original club considers fair value, then this situation will continue to arise. Stopping players from talking to clubs will likely just see more players wait until trade period to re-sign, as that is when they can evaluate what offers are available for them. And that's before you consider how difficult it would be to enforce such rules, especially when many of the players and coaches are managed by the same managers.

Here's the problem with the bolded. GC say they want a player as part of the JOM deal, but (presumably) don't want an average, list clogger type player. However, they have been unable to convince a single player, outside of Hanley and Lyons, to join their club who fits that bill. That literally makes it impossible for Hawthorn to send one of their own players to GC, and we can talk to every club in the league about helping out, but ultimately, no player wants to be a part of this deal. We were reportedly trying to be a part of the deal to send Hanley to GC, and the same with Lyons, but it hasn't exactly given Hawthorn much of a chance to be involved with those trades (especially given Lyons is a relatively recent development)

 

[Iva Bigun]

But I was serious - its very hard trading players there.

They went into the trade period saying they want players and yet they will likely walk out with picks 4,6,8 and Pierce Hanley. There is a very big problem there

Why wouldn't they be spending the year trying to improve the culture of the club? Why weren't they making a big play for Sammy M as player/assistant coach? He would have been terrific for the club.

Compare it to GWS - champion team, great coach, good culture.

Your trying to sound like you know what's best for our club but you don't have any idea about trying to built a club in a rugby stronghold and comparing us to GWS and their consessions just highlights it. Chalk and cheese

 

[threesixpio]

A bit more than **** all and a little less than half a bag of smiths chips.

we haven't had a pick like that for ages.

 

[bumsonseats]

3 way trade idea.
Suns out: O'Meara,
In: pick 10, Lyons, 2017 2nd
Hawks out: pick 10, 1 of Sheils, Burton or Smith
In: O'Meara
Crows out: Lyons, 2017 2nd
In: 1 of shiels, Burton or Smith

Option for hawthorn if not Lyons for pick 26 without Hawks involved.

Or how bout pick 10 in the ND

I doubt a trade will get done