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List Mgmt. Trade & F.A. 2017 (if a scenario sounds wrong - read on before posting)

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Happens every year. Clem Smith was a first round pick 12 months out and is already out of the system. Charlie Spargo was a top 5 pick in this draft and 12 months later he's barely even rating a mention.

Overall I'm just advising caution for those that are looking at 2018 as a super draft and I'd look at it as an opportunity to leverage against some of those views if we wanted to trade our 2018 first round pick.

Agree. There's no guarantee that a club will be in a draft range to grab these future prospects either irrespective of how well they might project as underage talent.
 
we cant simply afford to throw the baby out with the bath water
we need to re jig our list due to poor selections, development and just plain bad luck which of course is typical of our lot
simply put my belief is the following 7 things have really stuffed us,now 1, 2 or even 3 or 4 but 7 fmd, they are
1 gault not comming on after a huge investment
2 the big show a perfect body shape fit and the physical tools to succed in todays game with PRESENCE
3 swanny the ONLY GUY we could bank on to consistently beat his opponent 1 on 1 with PRESENCE
4 clokes fall of the cliff, prior had presence
5 jamies backhas presence
6 reids decline prior had presence
7 dawes broken knuckle huge imput into our last flag, placed too much pressure on cloke, key player underrated
please note all are forwards and all would be top 22
a forward line comprising the following looks damn good
elliot cloke swan
abbott dawes fasolo
moore could then develop on a wing or in the VFL alongside Cox
Now all i hear is BUCKS is this and that ,fuelled by a rampant media (vultures) and predicatably endorsed by fools , trade pendels ,sidey ,sack eddie,sack hine fair dinkum what are you guys on, you do realise that we have never recieved a fair rub of the green , would have 10 more wins over 2 years sedated your HATE and your calls for CHANGE, because thats what's happened and some perspective is required.
off the list imo are obvious
oxley,blair,goldy,sinclair,sier,keefe,schade
trades
aish,broomhead,sharanburg ,reid
incomming
brown f/s,alir,cox thomas
rookie
swan ,sier keefe
get lever or casbolt
i love this team then
adams alir dunne
howe varco lever
AT wills wells
fasolo moore elliot
pendels swan kirby
grundy maynard greenwood
this team wins most weeks with swan or kirby deep deep deep, levi tagging, lots of flexability and plenty of hard heads, presently its levi ,adams ,maynard and a bit of pep from Grundy adding lever wills,kirby and swan gives us PRESENCE
NOTE only2 new players and 1 champion returns
TOP 4 beckons
easily done
ben reid and 3rd round to sydney for alir alir and second
broomhead,aish,sharenberg ( he wont make it )and pick 4 for lever and pick 2
heaps of cap space then for Lynch,wright, cameron , who knows
11 changes from current list
2/3 from other clubs in trades
2/3 rookie upgrades then hit the draft and look at speed
I feel though we could lose Grundy and others if Bucks Goes and he just might be for Lever
if so Cox goes in as First Ruck and Always will give us first use anyway, so( i dont want him to go but) IF the price is right?
WE AINT FAR AWAY BOYS
 
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So JJ was holding out in hope for 800k yet settled for 600 hmm wonder if there's already something lined up with Lever
 
Jj's stocks were plummeting. Last year he was the one i wanted most. Now id steer clear. He probablt went back to the dogs with tail between legs.
 
we cant simply afford to throw the baby out with the bath water
we need to re jig our list due to poor selections, development and just plain bad luck which of course is typical of our lot
simply put my belief is the following 7 things have really stuffed us,now 1, 2 or even 3 or 4 but 7 fmd, they are
1 gault not comming on after a huge investment
2 the big show a perfect body shape fit and the physical tools to succed in todays game with PRESENCE
3 swanny the ONLY GUY we could bank on to consistently beat his opponent 1 on 1 with PRESENCE
4 clokes fall of the cliff, prior had presence
5 jamies backhas presence
6 reids decline prior had presence
7 dawes broken knuckle huge imput into our last flag, placed too much pressure on cloke, key player underrated
please note all are forwards and all would be top 22
a forward line comprising the following looks damn good
elliot cloke swan
abbott dawes fasolo
moore could then develop on a wing or in the VFL alongside Cox
Now all i hear is BUCKS is this and that ,fuelled by a rampant media (vultures) and predicatably endorsed by fools , trade pendels ,sidey ,sack eddie,sack hine fair dinkum what are you guys on, you do realise that we have never recieved a fair rub of the green , would have 10 more wins over 2 years sedated your HATE and your calls for CHANGE, because thats what's happened and some perspective is required.
off the list imo are obvious
oxley,blair,goldy,sinclair,sier,keefe,schade
trades
aish,broomhead,sharanburg ,reid
incomming
brown f/s,alir,cox thomas
rookie
swan ,sier keefe
get lever or casbolt
i love this team then
adams alir dunne
howe varco lever
AT wills wells
fasolo moore elliot
pendels swan kirby
grundy maynard greenwood
this team wins most weeks with swan or kirby deep deep deep, levi tagging, lots of flexability and plenty of hard heads, presently its levi ,adams ,maynard and a bit of pep from Grundy adding lever wills,kirby and swan gives us PRESENCE
NOTE only2 new players and 1 champion returns
TOP 4 beckons
easily done
ben reid and 3rd round to sydney for alir alir and second
broomhead,aish,sharenberg ( he wont make it )and pick 4 for lever and pick 2
heaps of cap space then for Lynch,wright, cameron , who knows
11 changes from current list
2/3 from other clubs in trades
2/3 rookie upgrades then hit the draft and look at speed
I feel though we could lose Grundy and others if Bucks Goes and he just might be for Lever
if so Cox goes in as First Ruck and Always will give us first use anyway, so( i dont want him to go but) IF the price is right?
WE AINT FAR AWAY BOYS
That's the most unattractive post I've ever seen in my life. You could hide murder plans in here and get away with it because no one is going to read that.
 
That's the most unattractive post I've ever seen in my life. You could hide murder plans in here and get away with it because no one is going to read that.

Blue Poles could be hidden in there...
 
That's the most unattractive post I've ever seen in my life. You could hide murder plans in here and get away with it because no one is going to read that.
so you say
10 more wins over 2 years would settle most rabid so called supporters on here wouldnt you agree
how many games Adamania do you estimate we have lost due to those boys in flouro over the last 40 odd, you dont agree were been stiff
 
Blue Poles could be hidden in there...
just trying bat to point out we dont need a big change ,just tweeking
Alir Alir, Lever, Swan in
Change other players positions to create some ompa which we certainly lack , it seems to me that our weakness is always the same few blokes letting us down
i wont name em , you all know who they are!
 

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JJ realised how bad he has been the last 2 months and just quickly signed before his value went down by other clubs i think
 
we cant simply afford to throw the baby out with the bath water
we need to re jig our list due to poor selections, development and just plain bad luck which of course is typical of our lot
simply put my belief is the following 7 things have really stuffed us,now 1, 2 or even 3 or 4 but 7 fmd, they are
1 gault not comming on after a huge investment
2 the big show a perfect body shape fit and the physical tools to succed in todays game with PRESENCE
3 swanny the ONLY GUY we could bank on to consistently beat his opponent 1 on 1 with PRESENCE
4 clokes fall of the cliff, prior had presence
5 jamies backhas presence
6 reids decline prior had presence
7 dawes broken knuckle huge imput into our last flag, placed too much pressure on cloke, key player underrated
please note all are forwards and all would be top 22
a forward line comprising the following looks damn good
elliot cloke swan
abbott dawes fasolo
moore could then develop on a wing or in the VFL alongside Cox
Now all i hear is BUCKS is this and that ,fuelled by a rampant media (vultures) and predicatably endorsed by fools , trade pendels ,sidey ,sack eddie,sack hine fair dinkum what are you guys on, you do realise that we have never recieved a fair rub of the green , would have 10 more wins over 2 years sedated your HATE and your calls for CHANGE, because thats what's happened and some perspective is required.
off the list imo are obvious
oxley,blair,goldy,sinclair,sier,keefe,schade
trades
aish,broomhead,sharanburg ,reid
incomming
brown f/s,alir,cox thomas
rookie
swan ,sier keefe
get lever or casbolt
i love this team then
adams alir dunne
howe varco lever
AT wills wells
fasolo moore elliot
pendels swan kirby
grundy maynard greenwood
this team wins most weeks with swan or kirby deep deep deep, levi tagging, lots of flexability and plenty of hard heads, presently its levi ,adams ,maynard and a bit of pep from Grundy adding lever wills,kirby and swan gives us PRESENCE
NOTE only2 new players and 1 champion returns
TOP 4 beckons
easily done
ben reid and 3rd round to sydney for alir alir and second
broomhead,aish,sharenberg ( he wont make it )and pick 4 for lever and pick 2
heaps of cap space then for Lynch,wright, cameron , who knows
11 changes from current list
2/3 from other clubs in trades
2/3 rookie upgrades then hit the draft and look at speed
I feel though we could lose Grundy and others if Bucks Goes and he just might be for Lever
if so Cox goes in as First Ruck and Always will give us first use anyway, so( i dont want him to go but) IF the price is right?
WE AINT FAR AWAY BOYS

We can't throw the baby out with the bath-water was you first line. Then you proceed to do exactly that
 

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We can't throw the baby out with the bath-water was you first line. Then you proceed to do exactly that
what do you mean , i havent spouted trade sidey, pendels or any of that crap
re recruiting a champion to play forward whos now fitter than hes been for years or is it trading a has been injury prone back who has been surpased by younger more athletic version or the future champion we recruit with a few blokes who have shown us what? and will go eventually anyway go back home.
you need to regenerate, you need to have SOME currency to land a decent recruit.
whats your advice , keep reid and get his brother? watch Alir Alir go elsewhere, miss out on the future again because of sentiment.
i reiterate were not far away
we have Nick Daicos comming in so Broomys gone then in 2 years
shaz too slow,ive seen him play vfl live and it aint pretty even there, aish well we all can see how thats going
 
But Swan!:p
you know the foots fine ,hes lighter and hes ready
automatic top 10 on list
would kick at least 30 as a stay at home 1 out forward
you know the type of guy we dont have and everyone else does
 
Not only that, he finishes with ...'we are not far away boys' after contriving 10 years worth of trading in one year.
3 trades is 10 years worth is it
no suggestions from you i notice
were soft other clubs know it , let the softies go home whilst we can get something for them
you buy low sell high
not buy high pal and sell low
all the guys ive mentioned are worth LESS now than what we paid yes or no, do you really think those 3 are going to blossom
really
 
what do you mean , i havent spouted trade sidey, pendels or any of that crap
re recruiting a champion to play forward whos now fitter than hes been for years or is it trading a has been injury prone back who has been surpased by younger more athletic version or the future champion we recruit with a few blokes who have shown us what? and will go eventually anyway go back home.
you need to regenerate, you need to have SOME currency to land a decent recruit.
whats your advice , keep reid and get his brother? watch Alir Alir go elsewhere, miss out on the future again because of sentiment.
i reiterate were not far away
we have Nick Daicos comming in so Broomys gone then in 2 years
shaz too slow,ive seen him play vfl live and it aint pretty even there, aish well we all can see how thats going
We have different ways of thinking then. You have 1/4 of the playing list being shelved, inc Reid, Scharanberg, Aish, Broomhead and Goldy who imo is having his best year. Thats an awful lot of change. Why you even mention Swan I have no idea. Some of those guys might not make it, I grant you that. But they need a decent run at it before you chop them. We have the mechanism to bring in 2 forwards if thats what you think we need, without totalling the list. We'll have a pretty decent pick and by all reports, a chance at Reid's brother to fill the gap.
 
Not only that, he finishes with ...'we are not far away boys' after contriving 10 years worth of trading in one year.
He seems rather convinced that Swan is still on our list as well
 
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