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[Underarm]

I doubt he would know that. Im not sure exactly how all this greensight stuff works. But it has something to do with Weirwood trees, blood, children of the forest, etc. I doubt he'd know about what happened in the Vale.

Also, telling the Vale about Lysa's death wouldnt help anyone as Sana covered it up.

Well he saw stuff at the Tower of Joy, which is super duper south so i doubt location is the problem.
Bran should be heavily invested in the White Walker fight, and not kings landing and the Game of thrones. A lot of stuff that people are frustrated that he isn't saying would be extremely trivial and would only cause more rifts and problems. Telling anyone that Jon is a secret Tararyen is just a waste of time.

On Olenna - She overvalued her control over the reach. her son was the last lord of Highgarden and with no heirs the realm was ripe for the taking. After meeting with Dany she went back to the Reach only to find that the Lannisters and Randyll Tarly had got the rest of the lords on side first.

 

[mike123]

So presumably an army of 20,000+ fits inside of a church and gets whiped out?

Olena is then the head of the house and returns to Highgarden but her army stays around? I doubt it.

As for fighting is not their thing, id disagree with that sentiment from the book content and apart from the Tarly's who have turned, presumably the Hightowers, Redwynes and Florents would of been involved in the defense of Highgarden as the bannermen of the Tyrells.

The Florents followed Stannis though and probably had most their armies wiped out during his war and the show doesn't make it clear which banermen follows who other than Tarly.


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[bourbons]

Well he saw stuff at the Tower of Joy, which is super duper south so i doubt location is the problem.
Bran should be heavily invested in the White Walker fight, and not kings landing and the Game of thrones. A lot of stuff that people are frustrated that he isn't saying would be extremely trivial and would only cause more rifts and problems. Telling anyone that Jon is a secret Tararyen is just a waste of time.

Agree about the other machinations, but reavealing that Jon is a Targ is perhaps the most important thing he could do to stop the white walkers surely? Can't see anything else that would give Jon instant cred with Dany and get those dragons moving north instead of south. Few strafing runs should sort the Night King & co. out.

 

[Seeds]

does anyone think it was way too easy to get rid of a so called incurable disease called grey scale? sure if you touch it you get infected but do they not have gloves? all sam did was follow some basic instructions in a book involving some chiselling and applying some ointment.

 

[Starburns_]

does anyone think it was way too easy to get rid of a so called incurable disease called grey scale? sure if you touch it you get infected but do they not have gloves? all sam did was follow some basic instructions in a book involving some chiselling and applying some ointment.

Yep. No issues with Sam mitigating the risk to himself, more just that the degree of difficulty didn't seem that high, especially with the shape Jorah was in by the time the arch-maester checked in on him again.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Well he saw stuff at the Tower of Joy, which is super duper south so i doubt location is the problem.
Bran should be heavily invested in the White Walker fight, and not kings landing and the Game of thrones. A lot of stuff that people are frustrated that he isn't saying would be extremely trivial and would only cause more rifts and problems. Telling anyone that Jon is a secret Tararyen is just a waste of time.

On Olenna - She overvalued her control over the reach. her son was the last lord of Highgarden and with no heirs the realm was ripe for the taking. After meeting with Dany she went back to the Reach only to find that the Lannisters and Randyll Tarly had got the rest of the lords on side first.

Hence why I included the "blood part". There was a lot of inportant relatives in the TOJ scene. Bran's father and Howland Reed (a family full of greenseers) were both there. It could be that memories are passed through the weirwood tree system based off of blood ties or through connections to people who have greensight.

I dont think its just all powerful. At least not in the books. Show may simplify it.


As for the Reach stuff. Youre on the right lines.

 

[SM]

Well he saw stuff at the Tower of Joy, which is super duper south so i doubt location is the problem.
Bran should be heavily invested in the White Walker fight, and not kings landing and the Game of thrones. A lot of stuff that people are frustrated that he isn't saying would be extremely trivial and would only cause more rifts and problems. Telling anyone that Jon is a secret Tararyen is just a waste of time.

On Olenna - She overvalued her control over the reach. her son was the last lord of Highgarden and with no heirs the realm was ripe for the taking. After meeting with Dany she went back to the Reach only to find that the Lannisters and Randyll Tarly had got the rest of the lords on side first.

Pretty sure people - especially Dany - knowing Jon is a Targ would only help seal their alliance and drive out the Night King.

 

[Vader]

Yep. No issues with Sam mitigating the risk to himself, more just that the degree of difficulty didn't seem that high, especially with the shape Jorah was in by the time the arch-maester checked in on him again.

He did seem to have recovered pretty quickly. The Arch-Maester basically gave him 24 hours to kill himself. The flesh under the grey scales looked pretty raw, when Sam was cutting it away in the middle of the night. The next thing we know, his skin is almost completely healed. Either the unguents Sam applied were pretty damn potent, or there was a lot more than 24 hours passing between the scenes with the Arch Maester.

 

[Bender571]

The one issue I have, apparently the entire Tyrell army was in the great sept.

Not sure on how the Tyrells were depicted by the QOT either.

The Tyrells have certainly been known for their warfare across history, or otherwise they wouldn't control the South.

They must have a pretty shit castle as well. Winterfell can hold off 10,000 men with only 500, and the Blackfish can hold off the Lannister and Frey armies at with only a few hundred at Riverrun, but Highgarden barely puts up a fight.

 

[Bender571]

Does anyone else think the army of the dead is kind of weak?

The Wight are extremely vulnerable to fire which is easy to make, and the White Walkers are extremely vulnerable to dragon glass which they now have lots of.

Hence why I included the "blood part".

Lysa is Bran's aunt and his sister Sansa was watching, plenty of "blood" there for Bran to be able to 'see'. I don't think Bran will mention it, just saying.

 

[Vader]

Does anyone else think the army of the dead is kind of weak?

The Wight are extremely vulnerable to fire which is easy to make, and the White Walkers are extremely vulnerable to dragon glass which they now have lots of.

The biggest problem with an Army of the Dead is that they're self-reinforcing. Unless you have time to burn your dead, every soldier you lose to them in battle soon turns up on their side - fighting against you.

They're susceptible to fire, Valyrian steel, and dragon glass - but only if you can "touch" them with it. That's not trivial, given that many of them are wearing armour.

 

[Percel]

Does anyone else think the army of the dead is kind of weak?

The Wight are extremely vulnerable to fire which is easy to make, and the White Walkers are extremely vulnerable to dragon glass which they now have lots of.

They have Wun wuns brothers now, all they need to do is steal a few eunuchs, a dragon or two and a lannister, make them all whitey too tightey and its game on!

 

[MinerBoy]

Bran's wooden acting may be the source of Euron's ships.

****....laughed way too hard.

 

[Percel]

He did seem to have recovered pretty quickly. The Arch-Maester basically gave him 24 hours to kill himself. The flesh under the grey scales looked pretty raw, when Sam was cutting it away in the middle of the night. The next thing we know, his skin is almost completely healed. Either the unguents Sam applied were pretty damn potent, or there was a lot more than 24 hours passing between the scenes with the Arch Maester.

Ship building timber has amazing medical qualities, he must have used that

 

[GreyCrow]

Agree about the other machinations, but reavealing that Jon is a Targ is perhaps the most important thing he could do to stop the white walkers surely? Can't see anything else that would give Jon instant cred with Dany and get those dragons moving north instead of south. Few strafing runs should sort the Night King & co. out.

Logically though both Dany and Jon are at oposite ends and need to meet in the middle. They cant go North to fight the WW without the full support , otherwise if they do defeat the WW they then have to turn around and fight Cersei and a full rested army

Logic says Cersei first then White Walkers. Thats how I see the order

 

[Vader]

Logically though both Dany and Jon are at oposite ends and need to meet in the middle. They cant go North to fight the WW without the full support , otherwise if they do defeat the WW they then have to turn around and fight Cersei and a full rested army

Logic says Cersei first then White Walkers. Thats how I see the order

Hence Littlefinger's advice to Sansa, about fighting on every front, all at the same time.

 

[Bender571]

The biggest problem with an Army of the Dead is that they're self-reinforcing. Unless you have time to burn your dead, every soldier you lose to them in battle soon turns up on their side - fighting against you.

They're susceptible to fire, Valyrian steel, and dragon glass - but only if you can "touch" them with it. That's not trivial, given that many of them are wearing armour.

It's not just that they're vulnerable to fire, it's that they appear to be highly flammable.




Launch a few flame arrows at an army of them and once one catches fire the rest will go up like a fireworks factory.

 

[Taylor]

Pretty sure people - especially Dany - knowing Jon is a Targ would only help seal their alliance and drive out the Night King.

She might try and kill him to stop him having a claim to the throne.

 

[Vader]

It's not just that they're vulnerable to fire, it's that they appear to be highly flammable.




Launch a few flame arrows at an army of them and once one catches fire the rest will go up like a fireworks factory.

Depends on how densely packed they are. Unlike the living, the dead don't stop attacking when they lose 10-20% of their force. They keep on coming relentlessly. You're pretty much guaranteed to run out of fire arrows long before they run out of wights. At that point, you just become another wight yourself, and the Night King's army gets a ready-made replacement.

 

[SM]

She might try and kill him to stop him having a claim to the throne.

He's expressed no interest, and as someone who goes on about how all her family is dead I think she'd be pretty happy to have a familial ally.

 

[peternorth]

He did seem to have recovered pretty quickly. The Arch-Maester basically gave him 24 hours to kill himself. The flesh under the grey scales looked pretty raw, when Sam was cutting it away in the middle of the night. The next thing we know, his skin is almost completely healed. Either the unguents Sam applied were pretty damn potent, or there was a lot more than 24 hours passing between the scenes with the Arch Maester.

My former dermatologist served in the war (ww2). He was a POW - Japanese captured. He told me there were a lot of skin disorders due to stress, malnutrition and other things. In order to help his fellow POWs (captives) he told them that the Japanese were going to execute those who did not improve in a set period of time. Kazaammmm, skin health improved. He told me it was mind over matter.

 

[Taylor]

He's expressed no interest, and as someone who goes on about how all her family is dead I think she'd be pretty happy to have a familial ally.

Depends how mad she is

 

[Brutalitops]

Does anyone else think the army of the dead is kind of weak?

The Wight are extremely vulnerable to fire which is easy to make, and the White Walkers are extremely vulnerable to dragon glass which they now have lots of.

So this is a little crazy, but...

Spoiler

Ive been watching it again from the start, and there was that scene where Sam sees the army of the dead marching past him after he was seperated from the group of rangers north of the wall. And a white walker was riding a dead horse. And it got me think about the undead giants. It seems that no animal/creature/anything seems to be immune to being raised up a wight.

What if Cersei's plan works? What if she kills a dragon? Can the Night King be the third rider of an undead zombie dragon?

...its a bit tinfoil, i know. Would be ****ing rad though!

 

[drd23]

So this is a little crazy, but...

Spoiler

Ive been watching it again from the start, and there was that scene where Sam sees the army of the dead marching past him after he was seperated from the group of rangers north of the wall. And a white walker was riding a dead horse. And it got me think about the undead giants. It seems that no animal/creature/anything seems to be immune to being raised up a wight.

What if Cersei's plan works? What if she kills a dragon? Can the Night King be the third rider of an undead zombie dragon?

...its a bit tinfoil, i know. Would be ******* rad though!

Spoiler

Its not that uncommon a theory that there will be a dragon wight. Its also assumed that the dragon who dies will be Viserion, if one were to die

 

[Brutalitops]

Spoiler

Its not that uncommon a theory that there will be a dragon wight. Its also assumed that the dragon who dies will be Viserion, if one were to die

I wasnt sure if ive read it somewhere before, i do check out awoiaf forums so i couldnt be sure. If it is a theory, its not a common one.

Spoiler

why Viserion though? Just because he was a campaigner? Or is there a more substantiated reason?