Bluemour Discussion Thread VI (cont. in Part VII)

[Kramer1]

Same with Sam Rowe and Silvagni really.

Silvagni plays every game he's fit...that number will be a single digit, but still.

 

[HARKER]

If I had to keep one and one only, I'd take ASilvagni as I feel he offers more and more immediately than Rowe can.
As instructive and as hard as Rowe, quicker and ready to go from day one next year.

I can see us holding onto White though. Possible we'll keep all three, but I'm not so sure we need to.

 

[agro]

I'm hearing that Hopper will leave GWS. He apparently likes it there however his parents are in his ear about coming to Victoria. As weird as this may sound, his parents aren't impressed with some of the pranks his housemates are playing.

Source: I work with someone who is close mates with one of the GWS scouts/list managers.

It's about time parents started to object to kids being ripped across the continent from their families and left in the "moral care" of the AFL system.

 

[Benaly28]

So cats now 'confident' they will land Hopper AND smith plus after gablett.That would be some coup.Menzel/Motlop you'd think gone,lonergan and Mackie retire,could happen?

 

[Blue__Balls]

So cats now 'confident' they will land Hopper AND smith plus after gablett.That would be some coup.Menzel/Motlop you'd think gone,lonergan and Mackie retire,could happen?

I reckon they could pull it off.

Our second rounder (Pick 20) plus their 2018 first rounder to GWS for Hopper and Smith.
Motlop to wherever as a RFA, gets Geelong something around Pick 32-36 (band 3-4).
Menzel to Adelaide as a RFA, gets Geelong similar to Motlop.
Both FA compo picks (call it 33 + 34) to GC for Ablett.

OUT: Motlop, Menzel, Pick 20, 2018 first rounder.
IN: Ablett, Smith, Hopper.

It'll hinge on what Kelly does though, because if he jumps ship I can see GWS significantly increasing any offer they table to Hopper and Smith.

 

[HARKER]

So cats now 'confident' they will land Hopper AND smith plus after gablett.That would be some coup.Menzel/Motlop you'd think gone,lonergan and Mackie retire,could happen?

Menzel is a FA, isn't he. Don't think he'd command a band two and a band three would net Geelong a pick around #35.

Motlop? Could go either way really. Who would want him?

 

[Coops93]

Silvagni plays every game he's fit...that number will be a single digit, but still.

Who goes out for him?

Not to forget that Macreadie will have another pre-season and they seemed very keen to give him a go this season.

 

[thylacine60]

Agree strongly. Put Murphy or Gibbs in hawks premiership teams and think about that for a moment.

whose positions would they take?

 

[StandByyourMan]

I'm hearing that Hopper will leave GWS. He apparently likes it there however his parents are in his ear about coming to Victoria. As weird as this may sound, his parents aren't impressed with some of the pranks his housemates are playing.

Source: I work with someone who is close mates with one of the GWS scouts/list managers.

An interesting angle on this is potentially how attractive CFC would now look to PARENTS of potential recruits - Bolton's inclusive approach to family and staff (see staff and club morale up due to inclusiveness across ALL staff at the club, see parents footy game, Bolts telling draftees of '16 in the journey ep1 to help around the house at xmas time "show parents you've become a man", just the tip of the ice berg in terms of examples), his emphasis on community involvement (seeing the big smile on Bolts' face re Armfield winning the Jim Stynes medal) and strong emphasis on good character and maturity are all huge signs of a very strong culture that will assist creating not only successful footballers but grounded, mature young men. All of this would be incredibly appealing to families when discussing a move to another club....

 

[BlueTongue]

Loyalty i guess. But he might be useful if Cas does go.

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After his appearance on the news the other night I'd say that was very likely. He looked like he was struggling not to shit-can Carlton and gave non-committal answers only. I'd say Rowe would do OK in the forward line if given a whole pre-season training there under Sav.

 

[StandByyourMan]

whose positions would they take?

I don't know, but the point I was trying to make is if you surrounded either with a strong midfield it would be a different kettle of fish. I wasn't suggesting that either of them COULD have played in a successful hawks premiership side by replacing Mitchell or Lewis, for eg.

 

[Blue__Balls]

After his appearance on the news the other night I'd say that was very likely. He looked like he was struggling not to shit-can Carlton and gave non-committal answers only. I'd Rowe would do OK in the forward line if given a whole pre-season training there under Sav.

Missed this - care to elaborate?

 

[Benaly28]

Starting to think with all this other talk re clubs and trades that we may miss out altogether on the mentioned players out there.

 

[Kramer1]

Who goes out for him?

Anyone less willing.

 

[FairKouta]

Whitfield to the Hawks apparently.
Crawford reckons so

 

[Blue__Balls]

Starting to think with all this other talk re clubs and trades that we may miss out altogether on the mentioned players out there.

Don't mind that at all, to be honest.

The more clubs that blow their load this year, the less there are with funds to spare for Lynch/Gaff/Shiel in the next two years.

 

[BlueTongue]

Missed this - care to elaborate?

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/a/36809970/casboult-speaks-on-unsolved-afl-contract-situation/

 

[StandByyourMan]

I read the above interview with Casboult as he is definitely gone. Players always give it away - most of them are bad liars/poker players..

 

[Azul]

"spent 8 years here but will focus on this week" - with the end of the season only a couple of days away.

Not looking good, depends on how much Eddie McGuire is prepared to offer I guess.

 

[Abyss]

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/a/36809970/casboult-speaks-on-unsolved-afl-contract-situation/

Id read it as Cas is another clubs plan b. If they cant secure their first option they will give cas the 4 years. Carlton are Cas's backup if no one bites. As good as gone...Id prefer him around for 3 years..but, theres the horizon.

 

[BlueTongue]

I read the above interview with Casboult as he is definitely gone. Players always give it away - most of them are bad liars/poker players..

Yup - that's how I read it.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Assuming we got ok compo, losing someone like Cas is the very definition of taking a step back to take three steps forward. He's important now but we won't win a flag with him

 

[BlueTongue]

I'm hearing that Hopper will leave GWS. He apparently likes it there however his parents are in his ear about coming to Victoria. As weird as this may sound, his parents aren't impressed with some of the pranks his housemates are playing.

Source: I work with someone who is close mates with one of the GWS scouts/list managers.

OK Then, What's the Kelly situation??

 

[Blue__Balls]

Id read it as Cas is another clubs plan b. If they cant secure their first option they will give cas the 4 years. Carlton are Cas's backup if no one bites. As good as gone...Id prefer him around for 3 years..but, theres the horizon.

Makes sense to me, and is in keeping with what he and his manager did last year.

Put himself on the market, if a good offer is forthcoming he'll take it, otherwise he'll settle for whatever Carlton is willing to throw his way for 12 months.

 

[StandByyourMan]

Assuming we got ok compo, losing someone like Cas is the very definition of taking a step back to take three steps forward. He's important now but we won't win a flag with him

agree with this.