Recommitted Lachie Whitfield [re-signed]

[Benaly28]

At the end of the day when this is all done and dusted I'd be surprised if anyone left.At worst gws lose Kennedy and maybe smith.No biggie for them.Though it's great banter!

 

[Snookers]

That last paragraph is ridiculous. I agree though, future first and pop would probably get an uncontracted Whitfield but not a contracted one.

I'd be comfortable with Breust and 2018 1st for Whitfield and maybe a 2018 2nd or 3rd.

I'd be comfortable resting my head in between Scarlett Johansson's ample bosom.

Ain't going to happen though.

 

[KermitJagger]

I'd be comfortable resting my head in between Scarlett Johansson's ample bosom.

Ain't going to happen though.

I mean, so would I. But what's wrong with Breust and a 2018 1st rounder? We'd be paying some of Breust's wage too.

Luke Breust is a 50 goal a year small forward who can run through the mid in a good side. Imagine Greene and Breust firing in the one forward line.

 

[Brettox]

I mean, so would I. But what's wrong with Breust and a 2018 1st rounder? We'd be paying some of Breust's wage too.

Luke Breust is a 50 goal a year small forward who can run through the mid in a good side. Imagine Greene and Breust firing in the one forward line.

Maybe Breust, Poppy and 2018 first would get them to the table. It's not like you can use a bad knee as a bargaining chip like with O'meara.

 

[KermitJagger]

Maybe Breust, Poppy and 2018 first would get them to the table. It's not like you can use a bad knee as a bargaining chip like with O'meara.

Breust is in the prime of his career and has had interest from GWS before, I believe they were ready to offer picks 4 and 6 at one stage. He's also contracted so we'd pay some of his wage. Coupled with a first rounder in a strong draft, that's a fair deal.

 

[GreatBradScott]

North will come knocking now big time.

Maybe.

Don't get me wrong, his kick is sublime. Very, very good player. But need an explosive clearance type as well. The latter might be more of a priority.

 

[Bokonon_]

Breust is in the prime of his career and has had interest from GWS before, I believe they were ready to offer picks 4 and 6 at one stage. He's also contracted so we'd pay some of his wage. Coupled with a first rounder in a strong draft, that's a fair deal.

Nothings wrong with Bruest, and you dont need anything else. He'd be a great score for us. Except it seems he doesn't want to come. Also I think he's in the age bracket and the type of person you will need to provide leadership to the next lot of young Hawks. I get your season ended well, and you have promising youngsters. There are still retirements to come though.

 

[Mojo]

Maybe Breust, Poppy and 2018 first would get them to the table. It's not like you can use a bad knee as a bargaining chip like with O'meara.

You're having a laugh, right?

 

[Brettox]

You're having a laugh, right?

I wouldn't think so. Trying to pinch a gun player for sweet FA - that is Carlton's job.

 

[docko911]

I mean, so would I. But what's wrong with Breust and a 2018 1st rounder? We'd be paying some of Breust's wage too.

Luke Breust is a 50 goal a year small forward who can run through the mid in a good side. Imagine Greene and Breust firing in the one forward line.

They have Devon Smith and Deledio.

If they really did offer pick 4 and 6 for Breust you guys are idiots for not driving him up there.

 

[Jake_09]

I wouldn't think so. Trying to pinch a gun player for sweet FA - that is Carlton's job.

Breust and a 1st is sweet FA now? Well F me

 

[KermitJagger]

They have Devon Smith and Deledio.

If they really did offer pick 4 and 6 for Breust you guys are idiots for not driving him up there.

Smith and Deledio play a completely different role to Breust.

 

[gandaal]

Breust is in the prime of his career and has had interest from GWS before, I believe they were ready to offer picks 4 and 6 at one stage. He's also contracted so we'd pay some of his wage. Coupled with a first rounder in a strong draft, that's a fair deal.

How can he be in the prime of his career if he's just had the worst year of his career? Even Levi Casboult kicked more goals than Breust this year.

 

[Sydswans666]

They have Devon Smith and Deledio.

If they really did offer pick 4 and 6 for Breust you guys are idiots for not driving him up there.

Exactly what I was thinking....
Late first rounder at best

 

[KermitJagger]

How can he be in the prime of his career if he's just had the worst year of his career? Even Levi Casboult kicked more goals than Breust this year.

Wow, a small forward kicked less goals than a key forward in a team that had the 4th fewest inside 50s. Shock horror.

He's in his mid 20s and as a small forward his output will obviously be directly affected by team performance. He's proven since debut that he can kick 40-50+ in a good side and apply decent tackle pressure.

 

[Giant Strides]

Yeah, I'd still call Breust as being in his prime, and reckon he would be a good fit for GWS. A forward line of 3 talls, Greene, Deledio, Breust & Taranto (presuming Smith departs) would be pretty potent. However, I wouldn't be swapping Lachie Whitfield for him. Wish that Hawks had taken our previous (draft picks) offer for him, even though it was overs - we wouldn't have recruited Deledio then IMHO. Funny, GWS have offered outstandingly good trades for guys like Griffen & Johnson in the past, been knocked back, then gotten them anyway for less; but I just don't see us getting Breust and certainly not for Lachie.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Wow, a small forward kicked less goals than a key forward in a team that had the 4th fewest inside 50s. Shock horror.

He's in his mid 20s and as a small forward his output will obviously be directly affected by team performance. He's proven since debut that he can kick 40-50+ in a good side and apply decent tackle pressure.

If you love him so much why are you trying so hard to move him?

I smell a used car salesman here.

 

[Bokonon_]

How can he be in the prime of his career if he's just had the worst year of his career? Even Levi Casboult kicked more goals than Breust this year.

His value isn't just kicking goals, although that's great. It's defensive pressure, it doesn't matter he's not getting traded though.

 

[dipper86]

If you love him so much why are you trying so hard to move him?

I smell a used car salesman here.

Its actually a combination. Team needs and players with currency

Breust is elite for his position. Before this year he was a 35 to 45 goal kicking tackling half forward. But the reality is he's a cherry on top type of player, a team that's in a premiership window, a team with a competent midfield. At Hawthorn, now, he's playing in a 4 man forward line setup with an incompetent midfield lacking both class and depth. So its a combination that Breust is wasted with us and we have more pressing needs. All i know is that in your setup, with the way you move the ball, Breust would be absurd.

That's my thought process in why he may be tradeable.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Its actually a combination. Team needs and players with currency

Breust is elite for his position. Before this year he was a 35 to 45 goal kicking tackling half forward. But the reality is he's a cherry on top type of player, a team that's in a premiership window, a team with a competent midfield. At Hawthorn, now he's playing in a 4 man forward line setup with an incompetent midfield lacking both class and depth. So its a combination that Breust is wasted with us and we have more pressing needs.

That's my thought process in why he may be tradeable.

Well Lachie is pretty crucial to us. With Scully he is our best runner.

 

[Giant Strides]

Its actually a combination. Team needs and players with currency

Breust is elite for his position. Before this year he was a 35 to 45 goal kicking tackling half forward. But the reality is he's a cherry on top type of player, a team that's in a premiership window, a team with a competent midfield. At Hawthorn, now he's playing in a 4 man forward line setup with an incompetent midfield lacking both class and depth. So its a combination that Breust is wasted with us and we have more pressing needs.

That's my thought process in why he may be tradeable.

I do agree with your reasoning. The problem is that GWS saw that need/opportunity 1-2 years previously, but Hawks (well really, Breust himself) didn't want to trade when his value was highest. Same with Stevie J & Griffen; the clubs they were at didn't want to trade players they saw as integral to their team, and perhaps didn't realise how quickly that would change. Not really a slight on the clubs - they were undertaking responsible list management. (Same argument in regards GWS not trading McCarthy to Freo.) However, now Breust's trade value has dropped if Hawks come asking, and TBH, GWS would have done the trade in the past for picks and/or good young players (think Marchbank, Pickett etc) because we were well off in both regards - this year we're not flush with either but don't really have a need to get rid of anyone. I just think Breust is an opportunity that's gone past for a Hawks/GWS trade.

 

[dipper86]

Well Lachie is pretty crucial to us. With Scully he is our best runner.

Coniglio ain't no slouch either, nor is Kelly if he ends up staying. Whitfield may be expendable for a position that is lacking somewhat and would complete your list. And no I'm not saying it as a trade in a direct swap.

 

[dipper86]

I do agree with your reasoning. The problem is that GWS saw that need/opportunity 1-2 years previously, but Hawks (well really, Breust himself) didn't want to trade when his value was highest. Same with Stevie J & Griffen; the clubs they were at didn't want to trade players they saw as integral to their team, and perhaps didn't realise how quickly that would change. Not really a slight on the clubs - they were undertaking responsible list management. (Same argument in regards GWS not trading McCarthy to Freo.) However, now Breust's trade value has dropped if Hawks come asking, and TBH, GWS would have done the trade in the past for picks and/or good young players (think Marchbank, Pickett etc) because we were well off in both regards - this year we're not flush with either but don't really have a need to get rid of anyone. I just think Breust is an opportunity that's gone past for a Hawks/GWS trade.

At the time you came calling we were pressing for our 3pete. So as good as the offer was the Premiership was the priority.
I still think its the one area of the ground that's missing in your setup.

 

[Bokonon_]

At the time you came calling we were pressing for our 3pete. So as good as the offer was the Premiership was the priority.
I still think its the one area of the ground that's missing in your setup.

It is an area of need, that Breust would fill nicely. I just dont see a trade working. I dont think either player wants it, and we cant be pushing Lachie out the door. I dont think it's in your interests to push Bruest either.

 

[Andre the Giant]

At the time you came calling we were pressing for our 3pete. So as good as the offer was the Premiership was the priority.
I still think its the one area of the ground that's missing in your setup.

We have several areas which require attention. Our ruck tap work is shithouse and we probably need another quarterback style defender as Heath Shaw is in decline. Missing McGrath was a tragedy for us.