Review 2017 Free Agency & Trade Period

[Wally Walpamur]

Barrett being Barrett...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-06/sliding-doors-let-the-trades-begin
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It's official, Barrett's been reading our board and bought into the sightings and rumours.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Fair to say if Menzel has a number of suitors, including his home state, surely his preference is to stay at the Cattery or return to his home state. Freo just doesn't make sense, especially with Cam and Kersten already here.

Menzel did not finish in the top 20 of the cats B and F.

The Crows do not need him, not sure about Port.

He can finish and is ok at marking for his height but will provide no defensive pressure. That is why there are limited suitors.

 

[Wally Walpamur]

Menzel did not finish in the top 20 of the cats B and F.

The Crows do not need him, not sure about Port.

He can finish and is ok at marking for his height but will provide no defensive pressure. That is why there are limited suitors.

I thought that article said he had "a number of other suitors." I reckon if he's after the best contract, GCS would be right into him. Brisbane not so much as it would compromise their Rockliff compo; maybe they can trade for him.

 

[Simmofreo]

I think if we do anything it will be in the last hour. Try to get someone cheap.

If not we may hold off

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[Tommo]

Can we add a "All of the above" option to the poll?

 

[Midnite65]

Menzel did not finish in the top 20 of the cats B and F.

The Crows do not need him, not sure about Port.

He can finish and is ok at marking for his height but will provide no defensive pressure. That is why there are limited suitors.

How many goals did our leading goalkicker kick this year and how many did Menzel kick?

 

[go_the_dockers]

How many goals did our leading goalkicker kick this year and how many did Menzel kick?

40 goals Menzel, 25 goals McCarthy and Kersten each roughly.

How many goals would he kick in our forward line?
Will he make our team better? or will the loss of forward pressure put too much pressure on our back half?

I am not saying don't get him. All I am saying it is not as clear cut as some people think.

 

[Taylor]

Can we add a "All of the above" option to the poll?

Unfortunately not, this is the time of year for tough decisions.

 

[G Mus]

40 goals Menzel, 25 goals McCarthy and Kersten each roughly.

How many goals would he kick in our forward line?
Will he make our team better? or will the loss of forward pressure put too much pressure on our back half?

I am not saying don't get him. All I am saying it is not as clear cut as some people think.

Menzel had a statistically anomalous season too, a historically poor shot for goal (worse than the average player) scored at a rate much higher than the expected goals from his chances

It would be great if he could keep that up but history suggests otherwise

Then you would factor in our f50 entries which are lesser in volume and quality and it's hard to see him getting anywhere near the same mark

 

[wayToGo_]

Disclaimer: this is not intended as accurate analysis on which to base a decision one way or the other re Menzel.

If you add Hogan, Matera and Menzel to our forward line (alongside Walters, Bennell & McCarthy) and they maintain their average output from 2017 we go from the absolute bottom for goals and goal assists per game to top 4.

We were the worst team for forward pressure in 2017. We can't really get any worse - the ball is already rebounding out like a yo-yo.

 

[meima]

Warm to Menzel Now , who care what might happen later on for the team , make some move during FA period .

 

[estibador]

Disclaimer: this is not intended as accurate analysis on which to base a decision one way or the other re Menzel.

If you add Hogan, Matera and Menzel to our forward line (alongside Walters, Bennell & McCarthy) and they maintain their average output from 2017 we go from the absolute bottom for goals and goal assists per game to top 4.

We were the worst team for forward pressure in 2017. We can't really get any worse - the ball is already rebounding out like a yo-yo.

Did you take out the goals and assists from the players they would be replacing though?

I sure hope we would be top 4 for scoring if we played with 21 on the field!

Edit - maybe I misread and you were just adding up the contribution of the 6 you named

 

[Tony_Clifton]

I was surprised when GWS picked up Tendai and MDB.

Given they are full of front running, 1st round, cushie show ponies, who want to play pure footy and not get hurt; they need someone to break them down. Someone to be first into a fracas. Someone who's mongrel is not because he's a s**t bloke but because he believes in something greater. Someone like one Nic Suban.

 

[theGav56]

The biggest impact on our scoring next year will come from the midfield performance including rebound from defense.

 

[theGav56]

I was surprised when GWS picked up Tendai and MDB.

Given they are full of front running, 1st round, cushie show ponies, who want to play pure footy and not get hurt; they need someone to break them down. Someone to be first into a fracas. Someone who's mongrel is not because he's a s**t bloke but because he believes in something greater. Someone like one Nic Suban.

GWS are possibly the team most likely to offer a tiny contract, which would mean zero compo.

 

[Wally Walpamur]

I was surprised when GWS picked up Tendai and MDB.

Given they are full of front running, 1st round, cushie show ponies, who want to play pure footy and not get hurt; they need someone to break them down. Someone to be first into a fracas. Someone who's mongrel is not because he's a s**t bloke but because he believes in something greater. Someone like one Nic Suban.

The GWS supporters (and i'm guessing club) have been really happy with the professionalism MDB and Gu bought to the club. They wanted Gu to stay on as a development coach.

 

[wayToGo_]

Did you take out the goals and assists from the players they would be replacing though?

I sure hope we would be top 4 for scoring if we played with 21 on the field!

Edit - maybe I misread and you were just adding up the contribution of the 6 you named

Yep just the 6 I named -> a forward line of Hogan, Matera, Menzel, Walters, Bennell and McCarthy.

edit - Menzel did have a good year this year so you'd be weighing up whether he could maintain being a better option than Kersten. It may not be worth it but I at least think it's worth looking at.

 

[valkorum]

Trade Radio: Melbourne showing interest in Harley Balic

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Trade Radio: Hogan under no circumstances to be traded (Nathan Schmook)

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Trade Radio: Melbourne showing interest in Harley Balic

Hogan or GTFO

 

[Andy Brennan]

Trade Radio: Hogan under no circumstances to be traded (Nathan Schmook)

Definitely gettable then

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[scon]

Trade Radio: Melbourne showing interest in Harley Balic

Be interesting how this pans out because his potential and talent will be well recognised inside the industry;pity Mr Roos isn't still at the helm.

 

[jerms]

AFL.com.au being a real c*cktease...

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[Taylor]

Thoughts on the prospect of turning Crozier into Wilson?
How much do we need to tip in to make that happen?
What improvement could we expect from Wilson over Crozier at half back and would Crozier + (something) = Wilson represent value?

Find the value of X in:
Crozier + X = Wilson

 

[valkorum]

Thoughts on the prospect of turning Crozier into Wilson?
How much do we need to tip in to make that happen?
What improvement could we expect from Wilson over Crozier at half back and would Crozier + (something) = Wilson represent value?

Find the value of X in:
Crozier + X = Wilson

Wilson is far better than Crozier.

Doubt that we can offer Crozier to GWS and expect any type of deal to work. Crozier would want to go back to Vic