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[jmac70]

I reckon you have my friend and Jasper also does otherwise you wouldn't get so worked up when people doubt him

Wrong again.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Could say the same about you I suppose but at the end of the day the last 6 years results speak for themselves and it all points to Bucks having no idea

You’d be better in argument if you discussed last four years.
First two years he made finals including a prelim.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

So you think JMAC Death had the Same Impact as Darren Millane's Death?

To the group of players at that time (finals time) would have been immense.

Overall Millane has greater Collingwood resonance. For all sorts of reasons.

They are different. But immediacy is telling.
(Adelaide had a major impact emotionally as well when their coach died.)

 

[Saintly Viewed]

So you think JMAC Death had the Same Impact as Darren Millane's Death?

To the group of players at that time (finals time) would have been immense.

Overall Millane has greater Collingwood resonance. For all sorts of reasons.

They are different. But immediacy is telling.
(Adelaide had a major impact emotionally as well when their coach died.)

 

[No SPIN]

You are making the assertion that's wrong

Are You having a bad day Mike?
Challenging a poster to prove his point is not taking a stance on that issue.
Offering him a way to prove his point is just being helpful - knowing in Gimps case he is not one for detail.
But you have an opportunity to speak for
Him so go ahead.

 

[parvey]

Never said Buckley is a great coach. In fact I thought he should of been sacked post 2016. My issue is with people passing opinions as facts and when a person argues that A caused B without evidence to support the claim.

Your not making any sense, what opinions? The fact that we have gone progressively backwards in the last 4 years, I am more than happy to admit I am wrong if we end up top 4 and have a really good season but on the evidence of the last 4 years and the amount of quality under done players we have coming in to the season I do not hold out any high hopes that's all and this is an opinion forum last time I checked. So what is your prediction for this year?

 

[mike123]

Are You having a bad day Mike?
Challenging a poster to prove his point is not taking a stance on that issue.
Offering him a way to prove his point is just being helpful - knowing in Gimps case he is not one for detail.
But you have an opportunity to speak for
Him so go ahead.

You took a stance when you suggested he didn't have enough evidence, sorry but you can't back out of it Spin. Gimpy has a link and you've offered nothing to disprove that theory. My opinion it could be right or wrong I don't really care I'm just reminding you if you want to shut a theory down you have to actually provide evidence against it instead of being a condescending twat about it.

 

[Help My Club]

Excuses why Buckley is still coaching:

1. Robbos announcement on foxfooty of Collingwood drug issue resulted in 80 point loss derailing the season after round 1
2. Injuries
3. Premiership players passed their prime and retired
4. Culture
5. Administration
6. Assistant coaches were shit
7. Gary Pert
8. Neil Balme
9. Still learning on the job
10. MM
11. Assistant coaches not as compitent as the great man.
12. Players poor kicking skills
13. Recruitment Hyne and Company
14. Players love Bucks
15. Buckley loves Collingwood
16. Bucks has a terrific rapport with players

Anything else I've left out.. feel free to add to this impressive list.

Impressive list indeed. But moreso, on the mark.

It is always someone else's fault. Quite remarkable. Can't say I've ever seen/witnessed anything like this before.

 

[Jasper84]

Your not making any sense, what opinions? The fact that we have gone progressively backwards in the last 4 years, I am more than happy to admit I am wrong if we end up top 4 and have a really good season but on the evidence of the last 4 years and the amount of quality under done players we have coming in to the season I do not hold out any high hopes that's all and this is an opinion forum last time I checked. So what is your prediction for this year?

This is my issue with opinions being passed as facts:
"The fact that we have gone progressively backwards in the last 4 years" This is an opinion based on your own interpretation of what is backwards. If you're talking about ladder position, then it's false because we finished 12 twice. If you're talking about games won and lost, then it's false because we won an equal amount of games in 2017 and 2016 with a draw in 2017. So what is the fact?

 

[HeathySure]

Nah, the one whose forward line Buckley coached into two grand finals.

If you are going to give credit to Buckley for those you might as well give credit to Neeld as well

 

[Jasper84]

If you are going to give credit to Buckley for those you might as well give credit to Neeld as well

All the coaches should get credit for being part of a premiership.

 

[parvey]

This is my issue with opinions being passed as facts:
"The fact that we have gone progressively backwards in the last 4 years" This is an opinion based on your own interpretation of what is backwards. If you're talking about ladder position, then it's false because we finished 12 twice. If you're talking about games won and lost, then it's false because we won an equal amount of games in 2017 and 2016 with a draw in 2017. So what is the fact?

The fact is that you have no real answer and are clutching at straws, if you don't like people having opinions then use the ignore button. You still can't come up with any substantial argument, the fact is we are crap and have been for 4 years, if you believe that we havn't gone backwards in 4 years when we should have at least shown some improvement then your argument is pathetic

 

[HeathySure]

All the coaches should get credit for being part of a premiership.

Agree with that, but does that make the a good head coach?

 

[Jasper84]

Agree with that, but does that make the a good head coach?

Of course it doesn't. But in turn being a bad head coach shouldn't diminish your achievements as an assistant coach.

 

[Jasper84]

The fact is that you have no real answer and are clutching at straws, if you don't like people having opinions then use the ignore button. You still can't come up with any substantial argument, the fact is we are crap and have been for 4 years, if you believe that we havn't gone backwards in 4 years when we should have at least shown some improvement then your argument is pathetic

Keeping in mind that I'm not a Buckley loyalist (if they still exist) and couldn't care less if he is sacked tomorrow as long as there is a better candidate, what do think I'm actually arguing about?

Do you think I'm trying to argue that he is a great coach? No I don't think he is a great coach and won't unless he gets us into a GF.

Do you think I'm trying to argue that we have done well in the last 4 years? Of course I don't think we have done well. To me, anything less than finals is a failure.

Do you think I have an issue with people having opinions? It's a forum, I love people having opinion and everything I've just said above is clearly my opinion.

My issue - as pedantic as it may seem - is that you keep saying "fact" (including twice in your last comment ) when it's actually your opinion.

 

[Mukesh]

Now I think about it. It would not Help and Could explain the Dip in Form end of 2012 Season but you hope now they be more Settled With it then back then

I’m surprised... no, make that disappointed... that you didn’t think about it before asking the somewhat insensitive question...

 

[left at home]

I’m surprised... no, make that disappointed... that you didn’t think about it before asking the somewhat insensitive question...

Well td does think a little differently to most on here when it comes to those sorts of questions. He is not being insensitive, just does not realise it is.

 

[Mukesh]

Well td does think a little differently to most on here when it comes to those sorts of questions. He is not being insensitive, just does not realise it is.

Maybe it's time someone educated him... because that line of thinking can be used to justify all kinds of inappropriateness...

 

[Jasper84]

Maybe it's time someone educated him... because that line of thinking can be used to justify all kinds of inappropriateness...

He has Asperger's. I don't think it's a matter of educating. It's more about us understanding that he will always think about things a little differently to some and that his intention isn't to offend.

 

[jmac70]

He has Asperger's. I don't think it's a matter of educating. It's more about us understanding that he will always think about things a little differently to some and that his intention isn't to offend.

Education still works for people on the spectrum.

 

[left at home]

Maybe it's time someone educated him... because that line of thinking can be used to justify all kinds of inappropriateness...

You can try if you like, but autism can effect people in different ways, and one of then can be that. To you and me it’s wrong to to them it’s a perfect fine question. Explain why it’s wrong, don’t jump on then. Time and patience

 

[left at home]

Education still works for people on the spectrum.

Yes and no, there are sometimes limits to what they understand. No matter how intelligent they are. Especially emotions

 

[jmac70]

Yes and no, there are sometimes limits to what they understand. No matter how intelligent they are. Especially emotions

I understand that. That’s why the internet can be a difficult space.

 

[Mukesh]

He has Asperger's. I don't think it's a matter of educating. It's more about us understanding that he will always think about things a little differently to some and that his intention isn't to offend.

Okkkk... I didn't realize that, thanks for filling me in.

 

[Mukesh]

You can try if you like, but autism can effect people in different ways, and one of then can be that. To you and me it’s wrong to to them it’s a perfect fine question. Explain why it’s wrong, don’t jump on then. Time and patience

Alrighty... I didn't realise our friend had those sorts of challenges to deal with...