Autopsy Rd 4 Blues annihilated by 86 points

[Arr0w]

Absolutely. Realistically, no-one, not even Judd, could do it all all the time.

I'm aware I'm being hard on him, but his frustration is becoming evident, and as a tagger myself I know what that looks like and how to position myself - in front of an umpire - to reap the dividends. You are VASTLY better off always to get furious, but let it come out when you have to tackle the bloke between you and the ball, or get the ball and let him try to tackle you when you try to go through them.

If he's got the ball, and breaks an opposition player's nose and/or concusses them when they're trying to tackle him - and this almost happened to me once - you'll be a bit loath to continue getting between him and the ball, a little less interested in scragging him off the ball.

Very aggressive mate

 

[Gethelred]

Very aggressive mate

All within the rules; it's how people tried to get rid of me, and I had little issue with it.

One can't allow a tagger to towel up their best mid every time they played us, after all.

 

[BlueRenaissance]

Absolutely. Realistically, no-one, not even Judd, could do it all all the time.

I'm aware I'm being hard on him, but his frustration is becoming evident, and as a tagger myself I know what that looks like and how to position myself - in front of an umpire - to reap the dividends. You are VASTLY better off always to get furious, but let it come out when you have to tackle the bloke between you and the ball, or get the ball and let him try to tackle you when you try to go through them.

If he's got the ball, and breaks an opposition player's nose and/or concusses them when they're trying to tackle him - and this almost happened to me once - you'll be a bit loath to continue getting between him and the ball, a little less interested in scragging him off the ball.

It's indeed dark times at Carlton when the Gethel is on Cripps case. Carry on Gethel.

 

[Arr0w]

All within the rules; it's how people tried to get rid of me, and I had little issue with it.

One can't allow a tagger to towel up their best mid every time they played us, after all.

And you already know that when being tagged, your team mates play an important role, that is where Cripps is suffering and needs more help

 

[blue healer]

And you already know that when being tagged, your team mates play an important role, that is where Cripps is suffering and needs more help

Doesn't seem like that long ago when we were saying the same about a young Murphy. Appears that we are slow learners at Carlton.

 

[Selene9]

I want Kerridge to play but Kerridge is not a good decision maker or disposer of the ball. Agree he could lighten the load on Crippa.

Can get the ball better than the kids if we are all honest. And would do better disposal wise than Dow.

Without doubt if Kerridge plays 4 games then we like him in one game, groan ourselves to death in another, and go where is he in the other two. The next effect is we're screwed.

I think Kerridge is of more value in our team at the moment than Weitering or Dow, and as for consistency what about Levi?! SK has leadership ability-similar to the style of Gibbs-but most of all he can tackle strongly (also like Gibbsy) and help protect the younger, lighter bodied players(he can kick goals too).

 

[BlueRenaissance]

I think Kerridge is of more value in our team at the moment than Weitering or Dow, and as for consistency what about Levi?! SK has leadership ability-similar to the style of Gibbs-but most of all he can tackle strongly (also like Gibbsy) and help protect the younger, lighter bodied players(he can kick goals too).

Should get a go this weekend. I'm all for him coming in given the current landscape. Scraping barrel bottom tho.

 

[iluvparis]

Irrelevant. You cant blame the current hierarchy for previous mismanagement.

You can if its something endemic to the club.

 

[iluvparis]

If Kerridge comes in, the number of hits and blocks he puts on Cripps' opponent should be his chief KPI

Hopefully that is one target he'd actually be able to hit

 

[Blue DNA]

My first post. I've been reading as a lurker for a year or two. A bit about me for context. I've been following Carlton FC since Barassi came across. As a 5yo, he was the only footballer I'd ever heard of, so if he was going to Carlton, so was I. I was around when we were arrogant and powerful through the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. For reference, I have almost never seen a Carlton 2nds side play, including any of Northern Bullants or the current configuration, so am absolutely uninformed about who deserves a game on form. Please leave me out of such discussions.

I was at the Western oval on that infamous day 'a generation ago' (as someone said in another thread) when we kicked - from memory - 4 goals and 20 odd behinds . My memory also says a 16yo Jimmy Buckley made his debut on that day. Our lowest score in my memory and an all round pig of a day in the wind and rain of the Western oval.

It is ingrained in me that CFC is synonymous with success, what our beloved Blues are dishing up at the moment causes visceral reactions from me and has for too long, but the depths we have endured for the past two decades and more is not the first time Carlton has had a bleak period. Through the late teens and early twenties of the 20th century, and then again post WWII we had 20 year periods without success in terms of Premierships. But this is the only period of my life when we have had to endure it. It hurt, it Effing hurts, but we will be back.


What I see in the team which took part at Hobart tonight is a culmination of years of mediocrity. Arrogance told us that the mighty CFC would just simply win through, despite the odds and despite reality. Pagan was a huge mistake, Rattan was not delivering Premierships, so needed to be replaced, Malthouse an unmitigated disaster. Bolton has been a breath of fresh air. Be careful, those who are now wielding knives for him. Mind you I for one am not against a little bit of 'hot gospelling' from a coach a la Ronald Dale to rev the troops up and make them take responsibility for themselves. I don't think Bolts has that in him. He's not the type.

Mediocrity is as habit forming as excellence. Acceptance of mediocrity leads to doubt. Doubt leads to hesitation, fumbling and missing targets. Fumbling and missing targets leads to lack of confidence in oneself and ones teammates. Lack of confidence leads to doubt, which leads to fumbling and missing targets. It is a closed loop.

I am gutted by lack of effort, lack of tackling pressure, by being treated - once again- as witches hats by opposition clubs. I am not a psychologist, I have no idea how to turn around the inner belief of the group of players Bolton has at his disposal, but I know it cannot come from 18 and 19yo's. These young fella's soak up the work ethic and attitude of their seniors. They need to be Simmo's in their whole hearted effort, (occasional mistakes are forgiven if effort is total) but they see too many who play without the same passion. We also need to remember that Simmo had zero possessions in his first 3 games. Give the kids some time.

Ok, enough amateur psychology.

I cannot think of a game in the past where our injury list equals our goals list. Murph, Kennedy, Plowman, Kreuzer.

Crippa was huge till the outcome was inevitable. I don't really blame him, but he seemed to rack the cue in the late stages. A Carlton Captain never concedes.
I thought Dow was better tonight, but needs to not panic with his disposal.
Jack Silvagni is unfortunately, not the player his forefathers were, but I admire his efforts. At least he has a go. I think his future is limited, but should stay in the team for now.
Fisher tried hard, but is not big enough to play the role he is forced to play due to our limited list.
O'Brien looks like a player. Get some games in to him.
Weiters plays without passion. What a pity. Mentally fragile, it seems.
Jones has been found out, but what choice do we have?
I happen to know Az Mullet personally, but please we must have someone who can kick instead. I also happen to vaguely know Cam O'Shea. Same.

The cattle is either inexperienced, injured, lacking confidence or lacking talent. Only one of those is something Bolton can influence.

Keep the faith Bluebaggers

Really good, thoughtful first post. I hope you stick around and continue to share your views.

Us long suffering but unconditional Blues supporters should continue to question - but also support - our club during the hard times not just when we are up and about.

 

[Arr0w]

You can if its something endemic to the club.

Surely you are suggesting we are making similar decisions of past regimes

 

[BlueBayou]

Really good, thoughtful first post. I hope you stick around and continue to share your views.

Us long suffering but unconditional Blues supporters should continue to question - but also support - our club during the hard times not just when we are up and about.

Cheers. I'll be about the place somewhere. Thanks for the encouragement

 

[Captain Cripps]

And you already know that when being tagged, your team mates play an important role, that is where Cripps is suffering and needs more help

As we all know ala Kennedy, but since round 2 he isn’t right injury wise
Brought back maybe 1 week too early and I’d think he now is still injured. When we knew the year would be bleak, why bring back early I’m assuming

 

[Arr0w]

As we all know ala Kennedy, but since round 2 he isn’t right injury wise
Brought back maybe 1 week too early and I’d think he now is still injured. When we knew the year would be bleak, why bring back early I’m assuming

Agreed, rather a 2 week lay off, instead of a possible LTI

 

[Soapy V]

I would describe Bolton's strategy to not play Kerridge as intransigent idiocy. Please feel free to join the dots between playing Kerridge and relieving the load on Cripps

I don’t see Kerridge as a relief for Cripps. Not that type

 

[Ken Navies]

Ugh.[/QUOTE]

I haven't used an iron in about 5 years.

When my mrs moved in she pulled out this thing and put water in it. I told her I already had a kettle, and it held heaps more than hers...

 

[DangerousD]

Ugh.

When my mrs moved in she pulled out this thing and put water in it. I told her I already had a kettle, and it held heaps more than hers...[/QUOTE]

In saying that, i think my Mrs has ironed a shirt of mine once or twice

 

[Dadda Dave]

In my batching daysi found if i folded my clothes as i got them off the line there was no ironing required

 

[Captain Cripps]

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Is he allowed to put this down first?

On the list of shit that has to be adressed with this team, Cripps’s defensive output sits at number 109476943 in order of things we need to get around to looking at.

When we get to that point you don’t want the engineer to be digging the holes.

How is the water sticking to that sphere?

 

[mediumsizered]

In my batching daysi found if i folded my clothes as i got them off the line there was no ironing required

Ironing? I am not familiar with this term.

 

[Iamcarlton]

View attachment 484633

Is he allowed to put this down first?

On the list of shit that has to be adressed with this team, Cripps’s defensive output sits at number 109476943 in order of things we need to get around to looking at.

When we get to that point you don’t want the engineer to be digging the holes.

Really ?
As Skyhorse Tamer pointed out this very reason may be why Cuningham was dropped from the side .
As a leader of the club now not sure its a great example for the many young players we have on the list .
Defensive pressure is a non negotiable that all players from top to bottom need to adopt .

 

[footyfan1978]

Ironing? I am not familiar with this term.

Go see your line coach Meb and work on it.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

Really ?
As Skyhorse Tamer pointed out this very reason may be why Cuningham was dropped from the side .
As a leader of the club now not sure its a great example for the many young players we have on the list .
Defensive pressure is a non negotiable that all players from top to bottom need to adopt .

The post I initially responded to was BlueJet who intimated that Cripps was more interested in getting agro with the opposition than applying defensive pressure.

That statement in my opinion isn’t correct, in fact, it’s bollocks.

I agree with your statement that defensive pressure is a non negotiable, but the post I responded to lacked context.

Context being, Cripps is averaging 26 disposals, is second in tackles, has almost doubled our next best contested ball winner, taken more contested marks than Charlie Curnow and is doing all that whilst carrying our midfield and a tagger along for the ride.

Cripps is the least of our worries.

 

[Neese]

I don't do ironing. Don't even have an ironing board. There's probably an iron somewhere in the house. I don't care enough to look for it though.

 

[AceAndy]

Ironing? I am not familiar with this term.

Very lucky msr

I recall when Mrs AA and i started living together i made the mistake of suggesting her ironing technique was not quite at my standard. She then suggested i could iron my own ****ing shirts. Also a passing comment re where i could stick the iron.

Fast forward 26 years and i still iron my shirts.

Tip for young players, dont criticise your partners ironing technique.