Non-Lions Footy Season (2018)

[Jivlain]

Like Bastinac, Bell, Walker, Frost, Jansen, Paine, West, Lisle, etc.

Out of that list, Jansen Paine and Lisle were too soon along to be "known quantities", we traded them on potential not performances. Didn't work out, but that's potential for ya. Didn't pay much for West and he was useful depth on those occasions when he was healthy. Frost's concussion-riddled 2017 was sheer bad luck. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[jackess]

Yeah, we really paid through the nose for those guys. Good point.

They’re mostly all guys we paid a ‘premium’ on to get to our club. Similarly we’ve had a poor return on the guys we’ve paid high picks for (Beams and Bundy) and overpaid for Cameron based off his previous output.

Neither strategy has worked well for us in the past. I’ve been supportive of paying this premium in the past just to get someone on the list who won’t leave in 2-3 years however our retention issues seem to be under control and this method won’t lead us to the massive improvements we need to jump up the ladder.

 

[BRAB]

Like Bastinac, Bell, Walker, Frost, Jansen, Paine, West, Lisle, etc.

Players like this actually probably strengthened our need to get Cameron.

It's rare we get a player that wants to come home and is actually a genuinely good player as well. Cameron was absolutely, always going to slot into the team and be in our best 12 players.

Pick 12 felt like too much at the time but when he's out there each weekend it feels like a fair trade. At this stage of our list development we can't risk not getting players in his age bracket who add so much to our team in areas we are deficient in.

 

[jackess]

Out of that list, Jansen Paine and Lisle were too soon along to be "known quantities", we traded them on potential not performances. Didn't work out, but that's potential for ya. Didn't pay much for West and he was useful depth on those occasions when he was healthy. Frost's concussion-riddled 2017 was sheer bad luck. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don’t think many would claim a lot of what we paid for Cameron was based on potential as well despite being 23. We knew at the very least we were getting an average small forward but we were paying for some to get to all Australian level.

 

[CarterS]

A true win-win trade if you ask me. Some people follow the draft thread very closely and get quite attached to these potential draftees.

 

[BRAB]

‘premium’

What's your definition of a premium?

Two of those players were brought in with a single third rounder, another with a pick swap in the 4th round.

 

[Harris Specter]

People whinge for the sake of whinging sometimes. Even the great Hawthorn brought in Vickery and couldn't do much with him, it's going to happen with a bottom side like us as well.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Can't believe we spent a draft pick to get a player who wanted to be here and is good now instead of a player who probably doesn't want to be here and will probably be good in the future.

GTFO Noble.

 

[Viceregal]

I had to go to the Roster forum to find out who 'West' was - once I found it I remembered Trent but he had completely fallen out of my memory

 

[Happy_Neale]

They’re mostly all guys we paid a ‘premium’ on to get to our club. Similarly we’ve had a poor return on the guys we’ve paid high picks for (Beams and Bundy) and overpaid for Cameron based off his previous output.

Neither strategy has worked well for us in the past. I’ve been supportive of paying this premium in the past just to get someone on the list who won’t leave in 2-3 years however our retention issues seem to be under control and this method won’t lead us to the massive improvements we need to jump up the ladder.

Two best and fairests not enough for ya?

 

[jackess]

Two best and fairests not enough for ya?

Only one. In a 4 way tie. Unfortunately with injury he hasn't played a lot of great footy for us.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Jack Martin a late out with Shanghai Stomach.

Glad we didn’t get roped into this preposterous exercise.

 

[M Malice]

Not much to get excited about watching the Shanghai Showdown, Oh Hum, got a JLT feel to it.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I know there are supposedly all these wonderful, hidden benefits of the exercise, but that crowd in Shanghai is such a bad look.

24 million people in Shanghai but Port can’t even entice enough curious onlookers to fill a third of that tiny stadium.

 

[dlanod]

I know there are supposedly all these wonderful, hidden benefits of the exercise, but that crowd in Shanghai is such a bad look.

24 million people in Shanghai but Port can’t even entice enough curious onlookers to fill a third of that tiny stadium.

But it's a sell out!

 

[jackess]

But it's a sell out!

There are definitely sell outs involved.

 

[lionshine]

Kangaroos are playing some great footy this year.

 

[Dalions]

Looks like it’s pissing down with rain over there, or is it just smog?

 

[iBeng]

Makes you wonder just HOW they ended up with Pick 2 last season...

 

[Dalions]

Makes you wonder just HOW they ended up with Pick 2 last season...

They tanked until the last round.

 

[jackess]

Makes you wonder just HOW they ended up with Pick 2 last season...

Gold Coast or Freo

 

[Jivlain]

Looks like it’s pissing down with rain over there, or is it just smog?

Lots of ponchos and umbrellas around, so let's say both.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Essendon now on track to be completely in form by the time we play them.

#Season2018Things

 

[carnthemlions]

I know there was more to his departure and it might be the right move in the long term, but you can't tell me a fit Rockliff wouldn't make us a much better side this season what with our complete absence of reliable ball winners.

 

[Nunez]

I know there was more to his departure and it might be the right move in the long term, but you can't tell me a fit Rockliff wouldn't make us a much better side this season what with our complete absence of reliable ball winners.

No doubt, but would it take midfield minutes from blokes like McCluggage and Berry who are our long term mids? Yes. Pros and cons and in the end his pick allowed us to trade up to secure Bailey so definitely a long term win at this stage.