AFLW Draft and Compensation

[The_Wookie]

Full Order
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-22/aflw-cats-to-get-first-two-picks-in-draft

Selection order for the 2018 NAB AFL Women's Draft
ROUND ONE
1 Geelong Cats (compensation pick)
2 Geelong Cats (compensation pick)
3 Carlton
4 Fremantle
5 Collingwood
6 Adelaide
7 GWS Giants
8 Melbourne
9 Brisbane Lions
10 Western Bulldogs
11 Geelong Cats
12 North Melbourne

ROUND TWO
13 Collingwood (compensation pick)
14 Geelong Cats (compensation pick)
15 Geelong Cats (compensation pick)
16 Carlton
17 Fremantle
18 Collingwood
19 Adelaide
20 GWS Giants
21 Melbourne
22 Brisbane Lions
23 Western Bulldogs
24 Geelong Cats
25 North Melbourne

ROUND THREE
26 Western Bulldogs (compensation pick)
27 Carlton
28 Fremantle
29 Collingwood
30 Adelaide
31 GWS Giants
32 Melbourne
33 Brisbane Lions
34 Western Bulldogs
35 Geelong Cats
36 North Melbourne

ROUND FOUR
37 Melbourne (compensation pick)
38 Carlton
39 Fremantle
40 Collingwood
41 Adelaide
42 GWS Giants
43 Melbourne
44 Brisbane Lions
45 Western Bulldogs
46 Geelong Cats
47 North Melbourne

ROUND FIVE
48 Carlton (compensation pick)
49 Carlton
50 Fremantle
51 Collingwood
52 Adelaide
53 GWS Giants
54 Melbourne
55 Brisbane Lions
56 Western Bulldogs
57 Geelong Cats
58 North Melbourne

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Thats rubbish treatment towards existing teams that lost 3-4 good players each.

Way to turn more people away.

 

[barrackers]

Thats rubbish treatment towards existing teams that lost 3-4 good players each.

Way to turn more people away.

At the very least compensation for existing clubs should have been one round earlier.

 

[si tacuisses]

Utter rubbish from the AFL. As usual.

 

[Testekill]

Dogs should have gotten the exact same compensation as Collingwood but of course the AFL makes it up as it goes on.

 

[jackess]

And Brisbane don’t get anything

 

[The Nostradamus]

And somehow we don't get the 2nd pick each round

Instead stuck with the last pick each round, rules on the run

 

[NoobPie]

And somehow we don't get the 2nd pick each round

Instead stuck with the last pick each round, rules on the run

No you got the last and Geelong get the second last. Geelong got four high picks to compensate them for not raiding 17 players during the free-hit open season exclusively for the expansion teams

Of course its "on the run" how the f2ck else are they meant to do it?

 

[The Nostradamus]

No you got the last and Geelong get the second last. Geelong got four high picks to compensate them for not raiding 17 players during the free-hit open season exclusively for the expansion teams

Of course its "on the run" how the f2ck else are they meant to do it?

Uh no Geelong have pick 1, ourfirst pick is pick 12

Our pick should be pick 2

 

[WolfgangV]

I joked with someone a week or two ago that our "compensation" for losing four players to Geelong would be a fourth round draft pick.

 

[NoobPie]

And Brisbane don’t get anything

This is the confusing one. I suspect it's because the Lions will get all the best Queenslanders anyway

 

[NoobPie]

Uh no Geelong have pick 1, ourfirst pick is pick 12

Our pick should be pick 2

ah, no they are compensation picks, have another look at the general order

you might be late to this so you are unaware of the quality of the players you've signed from other clubs. If you think that you should be loading the first or second best kid in the country on top of that you are dreaming

The sense of entitlement is breathtaking. Fair enough you've done some long term work with the relationship with Melbourne Uni which you've parlayed into a large creaming of some of the best players in the comp. But be greatful you got a team ahead of other clubs rather than whinging about a pragmatic decision in a competition that has been necessary managed through a sequence of pragmatic decisions

 

[The Nostradamus]

We put in the work early with MUFC we get the players wanting to come to us fair and square

Regardless of who we get both the new clubs should have the first 2 picks each round

None of this penalising competence bs

 

[NoobPie]

We put in the work early with MUFC we get the players wanting to come to us fair and square

Regardless of who we get both the new clubs should have the first 2 picks each round

None of this penalising competence bs

What? You mean don't pursue a competitive balanced league? A league in the third freakin year of operation because on of the expansion clubs essentially absorbed one of the two super clubs from the old state league?

You've got more than what you should have got already. They could have put a much larger cap on the numbers you could have signed in your free-hit trade period. They got that wrong and now have made a modest adjustment to the draft order that go nowhere near compensating the clubs.

Next years expansion teams will no doubt find their free agency signing period is a lot more constrained because of what North's done.

 

[jatz14]

This is the confusing one. I suspect it's because the Lions will get all the best Queenslanders anyway

People complain about the bizarre way the AFL makes it up as it goes along, but can anyone think of a realistic way to compensate Brisbane? Its about all they can do.

 

[The Nostradamus]

What? You mean don't pursue a competitive balanced league? A league in the third freakin year of operation because on of the expansion clubs essentially absorbed one of the two super clubs from the old state league?

You've got more than what you should have got already. They could have put a much larger cap on the numbers you could have signed in your free-hit trade period. They got that wrong and now have made a modest adjustment to the draft order that go nowhere near compensating the clubs.

Next years expansion teams will no doubt find their free agency signing period is a lot more constrained because of what North's done.

the point im making is we outsmarted clubs, got our players

the draft picks should be set in stone before this.

Its based on ladder position, and when new clubs come in they get the first picks in the first year then from there on its ladder position based in the following years

competitive balance can come after we actually play a game in teh following drafts, we dont even know how we will go next year

 

[jatz14]

The Victorian draw, the only part of the draw that is an actual draw.

ROUND ONE
1 1 Geelong Cats (compensation pick)
2 2 Geelong Cats (compensation pick)
3 3 Carlton
4 5 Collingwood
5 8 Melbourne
6 10 Western Bulldogs
7 11 Geelong Cats
8 12 North Melbourne

ROUND TWO
9 13 Collingwood (compensation pick)
10 14 Geelong Cats (compensation pick)
11 15 Geelong Cats (compensation pick)
12 16 Carlton
13 18 Collingwood
14 21 Melbourne
15 23 Western Bulldogs
16 24 Geelong Cats
17 25 North Melbourne

ROUND THREE
18 26 Western Bulldogs (compensation pick)
19 27 Carlton
20 29 Collingwood
21 32 Melbourne
22 34 Western Bulldogs
23 35 Geelong Cats
24 36 North Melbourne

ROUND FOUR
25 37 Melbourne (compensation pick)
26 38 Carlton
27 40 Collingwood
28 43 Melbourne
29 45 Western Bulldogs
30 46 Geelong Cats
31 47 North Melbourne

ROUND FIVE
32 48 Carlton (compensation pick)
33 49 Carlton
34 51 Collingwood
35 54 Melbourne
36 56 Western Bulldogs
37 57 Geelong Cats
38 58 North Melbourne

 

[barrackers]

And Brisbane don’t get anything

While it's as good as nothing you get an extra rookie, which if the 2018 rules remain you won't be able to play unless there's an injury. An extra senior list spot would have meant something, even a compo pick may have helped if BL could entice a Vic north.

 

[NoobPie]

People complain about the bizarre way the AFL makes it up as it goes along, but can anyone think of a realistic way to compensate Brisbane? Its about all they can do.

I'm not sure though how the AFL are meant to do it but to "make it up on the run"? They have little or no reference point for most of the decisions they have made because they don't exist

Anyway, they have clearly ended up with an overly favourable "free signing" arrangement for the expansion clubs, particularly as it played out for North. Good for north but save is the whining about not getting the best of the draft as well

 

[NoobPie]

the point im making is we outsmarted clubs, got our players

the draft picks should be set in stone before this.

Its based on ladder position, and when new clubs come in they get the first picks in the first year then from there on its ladder position based in the following years

competitive balance can come after we actually play a game in teh following drafts, we dont even know how we will go next year

No. That's why you haven't got the first picks. The AFL reserved the right to make a decision on draft order until after what is the first expansion team signing period. They did that and you've got a what you deserve

 

[The Nostradamus]

No. That's why you haven't got the first picks. The AFL reserved the right to make a decision on draft order until after what is the first expansion team signing period. They did that and you've got a what you deserve

maybe do so in the following draft after you know we actually play a game


our draft order has been affected and we havent even had a training session. You dont handicap preemptively

 

[barrackers]

the point im making is we outsmarted clubs, got our players

the draft picks should be set in stone before this.

Its based on ladder position, and when new clubs come in they get the first picks in the first year then from there on its ladder position based in the following years

competitive balance can come after we actually play a game in teh following drafts, we dont even know how we will go next year

That would have been one of the other alternatives, however under that system NM and Geel likely would have been given extra picks to trade for players and the free signing period would have faced much greater restrictions. Even just on account of greater transparency doing it this way would have been the better option.

 

[footscray1973]

Been a big supporter of AFLW, attending games and multiple memberships this year. 3rd round compensation for 3 premiership players, including the league b&f. AFL and AFLW can get fcuked - I won’t donate another red cent, will support local women’s league in Ballarat only. Any mention of or viewing of AFLW in our house is now banned permanently.

 

[footscray1973]

Also looking forward to North AFLW confirming the well publicised stats regarding knee structures in female athletes on a grand scale.

Campaigners get a massive free hit and have the temerity to whinge about draft order, snivelling goat-$&@%ers.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Also looking forward to North AFLW confirming the well publicised stats regarding knee structures in female athletes on a grand scale.

Campaigners get a massive free hit and have the temerity to whinge about draft order, snivelling goat-$&@%ers.

Enjoy watching the north powerhouse go undefeated

Fact is we outsmarted all, put in the work with MUFC years ahead of aflw

So much so the afl have out of nowhere handicapped us before a ball has been bounced in training or games

Be thankful we didn't take ellie Blackburn also who plays with MUFC