No Oppo Supporters General AFL and other clubs discussion thread. **Opposition fans not welcome** Part 3

[JoeHawk]

I’m still pretty bullish about the Dees , if they get the finals in decent shape eg Viney back I think they are as well equipped as anyone .

Lewis going in to the guts for bursts might be something Goodwin is keeping up his sleeve

LOL. They need find a heart fist. Their final quarters are awful. Once they meet Richmond they’re screwed

 

[HODGEYROAD]

North will remain in the Finals hunt today with Shuey and Kennedy out.

 

[RobHawk]

its the type of play, kids will be trying to replicate at school footy ovals all over the country, great moment

Had all the ingredients for a future toyota ad.

 

[Thaihawk]

If Jack Higgins played for the druggies, I would put my house on him for goal of the year. After mark of the year, and R/S last year to the druggies he would be a Monty. The AFL's favourite club is the druggies, isn't it?

No one is getting close to the tigers so they can call them anything they like - it amounts to jack

Reminds me a little of 2008, and another club who no one could get close to.

 

[Thaihawk]

Good call by ump. If any other player had touched the ball after the “throw” then yes, but he got the boot to it first. Just awesome.

I think it was Gunston that did a similar thing by keeping the ball in play as he ran around the post, then goaled. But this was “special”.

Didn't gunners just change the ball from one hand to the other, though?

 

[Seagull Supremacy]

Problem is, all the Tigs' nearest challengers either
a) have been stricken down by injuries (Eagles, Pies),
b) are reliant on too few (Cats),
or
c) have probably left their run a bit too late (Giants).

From our pov, I think I'm with Abasi. Would rather miss the finals than fall into seventh or eighth, and then limp straight out.

 

[Noneedforaname]

A note to the MRO and the AFL in general. Incompetence is making consistently poor decisions in a random fashion. Corruption is when you consistently target certain clubs for undeserved severe punishment whilst allowing other favoured clubs to get away with murder.
A combination of incompetence and corruption is when it's time for the bosses to offer their resignation.

See, I had this type of discussion with the Rugby League crowd at work. They bemoan the incompetence of the NRL head office, but I declared I would take them over the corrupt AFL mob any day.
Incompetence being a lesser evil than corrupt.
They could see the argument.

 

[Thaihawk]

Problem is, all the Tigs' nearest challengers either
a) have been stricken down by injuries (Eagles, Pies),
b) are reliant on too few (Cats),
or
c) have probably left their run a bit too late (Giants).

From our pov, I think I'm with Abasi. Would rather miss the finals than fall into seventh or eighth, and then limp straight out.

I understand what you're saying here, FB, but I think that even playing one final would ignite a fire in the belly, and players like Hardwick, Burton, O'Meara, Morrison, and other youngster who get the taste of finals footy would benefit more than just missing out.

 

[grumbleguts]

Problem is, all the Tigs' nearest challengers either
a) have been stricken down by injuries (Eagles, Pies),
b) are reliant on too few (Cats),
or
c) have probably left their run a bit too late (Giants).

From our pov, I think I'm with Abasi. Would rather miss the finals than fall into seventh or eighth, and then limp straight out.

No one has left their run too late if they make finals. This is a complete fallacy created by finals structure from a different era. Now all teams get a break to reset in round 24. This is how the throwdogs won their premiership. That and having the umpires play for them for an entire season.

GWS if they are good enough to beat the teams they play in the finals will win the premiership.
The same goes for any team that makes the 8. But by all means, imagine a world where only one team has already won it, and go from there.

 

[grumbleguts]

I just had a "friend" - read: carlton supporter - post on facebook. "Great win blue boys. Go you good things"
I politely correct the grammar.
I posted that should read: "Go you things"
Now he won't talk to me.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

If Jack Higgins played for the druggies, I would put my house on him for goal of the year. After mark of the year, and R/S last year to the druggies he would be a Monty. The AFL's favourite club is the druggies, isn't it?

I'm still laughing at the decision to award Daniher mark of the year when Howe from Collingwood took a far more difficult and spectacular grab. All the little agendas in the AFL is almost sickening to a degree. Then again, we see it in the workplace all the time, special favours being given to a select few, that's life I guess.

As for the Higgins goal, it was illegal and should have been called for a throw. However, I'm glad they didn't pay the free as it was a ripper of a goal

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Was a very Cyril-esque moment, incredibly impressive for a first year player. With Higgins, Butler, Rioli & Castagna they're stacked for small forwards. I also note GWS' forwardline has been doing much better since Patton & Cameron have been missing & Lobb's been in the ruck. Way too top-heavy before.

Would love to find a way to lure Harrison Himmelberg to the Hawks. Not just for the alliteration - kid is impressive.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

See, I had this type of discussion with the Rugby League crowd at work. They bemoan the incompetence of the NRL head office, but I declared I would take them over the corrupt AFL mob any day.
Incompetence being a lesser evil than corrupt.
They could see the argument.

Sorry, no. Just no. The NRL have destroyed the game for decades - the AFL have absolutely nothing on them. The NRL is almost more soulless a competition than the A-League.

The current head of the ARLC didn’t even know that the Sharks are based in Sutherland Shire, despite the team being called the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks.

The NRL is so inept that ineptness is embarrassed to be involved with them.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I just had a "friend" - read: carlton supporter - post on facebook. "Great win blue boys. Go you good things"
I politely correct the grammar.
I posted that should read: "Go you things"
Now he won't talk to me.

When the Broncos got knocked out of the finals in 2011 costing Lockyer any chance of a grand final farewell I posted a picture of Mal Meninga holding the 1994 premiership trophy and titled it ‘This is how a REAL immortal of the game gets farewelled’. Actually had a few Broncos fans unfriend me - which I found odd because Queenslanders promote themselves as not being soft.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

c) have probably left their run a bit too late (Giants).

Giants are in 4th position with some very good players to return. Seems to me their run is very well timed, I'd be very concerned about the Giants as a genuine flag contender.

2018 has a tinge of 2008 about it. Seems like most of the year, all the talk is of Tigers, how they're unbeatable on the MCG, how the flag is theirs to lose, etc. As Hawthorn fans know only too well, there is no such thing in a Grand Final as an unbeatable favourite, and Grand Finals are won on the day, not over the season, and certainly not because you won the flag the year before.

If the Tigers go into the Grand Final the slightest bit over-confident, and there's an opponent willing to take it up to them, it's anyone's flag to win.

 

[A Cut Above]

Giants are in 4th position with some very good players to return. Seems to me their run is very well timed, I'd be very concerned about the Giants as a genuine flag contender.

2018 has a tinge of 2008 about it. Seems like most of the year, all the talk is of Tigers, how they're unbeatable on the MCG, how the flag is theirs to lose, etc. As Hawthorn fans know only too well, there is no such thing in a Grand Final as an unbeatable favourite, and Grand Finals are won on the day, not over the season, and certainly not because you won the flag the year before.

If the Tigers go into the Grand Final the slightest bit over-confident, and there's an opponent willing to take it up to them, it's anyone's flag to win.

The big difference is GWS, West Coast & Geelong are all extremely suspect at the MCG whereas back in 2008 Hawthorn definitely wasn't.

Richmond pride themselves on mental toughness so a choke is unlikely, although the prospect of B2B does funny things to teams. Very hard to see them losing a final at the MCG at this stage but there's still time enough for them to be decimated by injury.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Problem is, all the Tigs' nearest challengers either
a) have been stricken down by injuries (Eagles, Pies),
b) are reliant on too few (Cats),
or
c) have probably left their run a bit too late (Giants).

From our pov, I think I'm with Abasi. Would rather miss the finals than fall into seventh or eighth, and then limp straight out.

If we wanted to go down that Path we should have just tanked earlier and got ourselves a top 5 or 6 pick, regardless of how bad we are from this point on the best we can do is pick 9 or 10.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

If we wanted to go down that Path we should have just tanked earlier and got ourselves a top 5 or 6 pick, regardless of how bad we are from this point on the best we can do is pick 9 or 10.

Yeah, but what does that mean? There's no guarantees that pick 5 or 6 will turn out to be a better player than 9 or 10. You only need to look back to see that. Classic examples are 2004: Tambling 4, Franklin 5 and, dare I say it, 2006: Thorp 6, Selwood 7, and there have been many others.

I see it as just as important to win as many games as we can right now.

 

[Pessimistic]

so I hear the saints have traded out of the 2018 draft

Bwahahaha

 

[HODGEYROAD]

so I hear the saints have traded out of the 2018 draft

Bwahahaha

Yeah I was just watching that, what did they receive for trading out of it ?

 

[thejockey]

LOL. They need find a heart fist. Their final quarters are awful. Once they meet Richmond they’re screwed

Don’t get me wrong they are flakey , but every side bar the Tigs have decent weaknesses

If they make it and win their first final I think they are the type of side who can go on a run

 

[Davo-27]

so I hear the saints have traded out of the 2018 draft

Bwahahaha

yea i had the saints in the mock bigfooty phantom draft and i had to wait until pick 58 after the pick 4 was auto selected.... but that pick 4 is going to get them a top quality youngster

 

[thejockey]

No one has left their run too late if they make finals. This is a complete fallacy created by finals structure from a different era. Now all teams get a break to reset in round 24. This is how the throwdogs won their premiership. That and having the umpires play for them for an entire season.

GWS if they are good enough to beat the teams they play in the finals will win the premiership.
The same goes for any team that makes the 8. But by all means, imagine a world where only one team has already won it, and go from there.

Totally agree with you .
GWS will concern every side , have managed to gradually filter players back with a few more to come .
You could argue they will be fairly fresh in comparison to a few other beaten up sides .

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

so I hear the saints have traded out of the 2018 draft

Bwahahaha

???

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

yea i had the saints in the mock bigfooty phantom draft and i had to wait until pick 58 after the pick 4 was auto selected.... but that pick 4 is going to get them a top quality youngster

Tambling was pick 4