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We have spoken to Steven May recently - Collingwood said to be front runners. From colleague with strong sources at Collingwood.
"Collingwood said to be frontrunners" ... from a Collingwood source

How often have we been convinced we were the frontrunner?

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Getting Rounghead would be the silliest move yet. Make no sense whatsoever. Leadership or not.
I'm in the same boat. Not sure where he plays given the kids we want to get games into.
 

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Now why would we want Jones gone. Turned into a defender against the odds and he stars for 10 weeks last year.
This year he has no choice but to run ragged trying to cover all the holes and actually still played some terrific games till the injury. Such short memories.
Pagan once said you need a gorilla to play on the gorillas. He was right and Jones is it. A gorilla and a gazelle in the one package. When his teammates come back he will star again.
 
If May heads to Collingwood , GC could certainly use Jones.
We might be interested in Brodie/Scrimshaw or one of their truckload of draft picks.
We have cover for Jones , he could be a valuable trading chip for us ...
Completely agree RB.
 
If May heads to Collingwood , GC could certainly use Jones.
We might be interested in Brodie/Scrimshaw or one of their truckload of draft picks.
We have cover for Jones , he could be a valuable trading chip for us ...
Much more valuable on the field. Just sayin'
 
man, we would be kicking goals if we had better delivery into our forward line, look what harry and CC are doing with floaters going knee high and kicks being kicked into a 2v3 contest everytime, imagine the damage they could do if they were being hit lace out every time they go for a lead.
Exactly. We need class ball movers with excellent decision making and delivery.
This more than anything. Walsh, Shiel, Settlefield, will begin to address this.
 
2018
StK = Luko
GC = King Boys to replace Lynch & May
Carl = Walsh/Rankine

2019 we get pick 2 or 3 instead of pick 25

Sounds great to me?

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Pick 1 this year is worth their 2 (2018 & 2019) first round picks. Remember the club has made it clear it needs to be a very, very good deal for us!

Also, I’m not sold that they will be as bad next year as this year and we hand them Luko!!!!!

What are we a charity case?
 
I think Jones is contracted and I can't think of a single reason he'd want to go to GC.

As much as I like him we haven't got many trading chips if he's our most valuable.
More game time. With the club perhaps wanting to play Weitering, Marchbank and Plowman, Jones might be forced into backup role
 

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People were asking whats the one thing we could offer that other teams in the hunt for Shiel couldnt? I dont think its pick 1, I think its the ability to take on a salary dump player.

Hawks, Pies, Bombers I dont think could or would be willing to
Pay for Jones’ salary as part of the deal?
 
They have a few they probably wouldn't mind letting go, Lids, Griffen, Scully and to a lesser extent Patton would all be on very good coin.

They also know if Shiel waits a year all they will get is a pick around 14-18 as compensation, that helps with any deal SOS makes
They still get Pick 14-18 next year for the other free agents that leave at the end of 2019 (Tomlinson, etc.). There are quite a few, first FA’s for GWS since they started.
 
I'm in the same boat. Not sure where he plays given the kids we want to get games into.

I Agree. As it sounds Hawthorn also do. Let it be their problem what they do, not ours.
 
Setterfield and Markov's not bad as a way of deepening the mid stocks

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Isn’t Markov more a defender?

With all the names being bandied about, the addition of Jake Lloyd would complete the heist IMO & our defensive lines.
Shiel, Setterfield, Walsh = midfield
McGovern = forward (swing)
Lloyd = defender (Markov could be counter)

Lloyd - Weitering - Plowman/Marchbank
Docherty - Marchbank/LJ - Williamson
 

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Not a full blown rumour. Mate rang me last night, who is a Saints supporter. He heard at a recent club function the following scenario.

#1/2018 2nd for Saints 2018 1st and 2019 1st.

Apparently, Hugh Goddard may have been part of the initial discussion before his delisting. Mate mentioned meeting of our club to engage with Goddard. Saints want Lukosius apparently and they have no picks between 1st and 60’s this year??? They also think they will be better next year and their 2019 first won’t be too early.

Makes some sense if Lukosius goes 1 and our club thinks their man lasts till 4. Saints 2019 1st would be a huge trade asset or security for a GWS deal.
If they’re sharing draft and trade strategy at club functions.......
 
Now why would we want Jones gone. Turned into a defender against the odds and he stars for 10 weeks last year.
This year he has no choice but to run ragged trying to cover all the holes and actually still played some terrific games till the injury. Such short memories.
Pagan once said you need a gorilla to play on the gorillas. He was right and Jones is it. A gorilla and a gazelle in the one package. When his teammates come back he will star again.
agree...and if he can develop the muscles that are responsible for keeping in him on his feet after a contest he would be even better
 
Isn’t Markov more a defender?

With all the names being bandied about, the addition of Jake Lloyd would complete the heist IMO & our defensive lines.
Shiel, Setterfield, Walsh = midfield
McGovern = forward (swing)
Lloyd = defender (Markov could be counter)

Lloyd - Weitering - Plowman/Marchbank
Docherty - Marchbank/LJ - Williamson

Not enough love for Byrne!!!
 
Isn’t Markov more a defender?

With all the names being bandied about, the addition of Jake Lloyd would complete the heist IMO & our defensive lines.
Shiel, Setterfield, Walsh = midfield
McGovern = forward (swing)
Lloyd = defender (Markov could be counter)

Lloyd - Weitering - Plowman/Marchbank
Docherty - Marchbank/LJ - Williamson
Markov was a wingman as a junior.

Liked a run.

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Isn’t Markov more a defender?

With all the names being bandied about, the addition of Jake Lloyd would complete the heist IMO & our defensive lines.
Shiel, Setterfield, Walsh = midfield
McGovern = forward (swing)
Lloyd = defender (Markov could be counter)

Lloyd - Weitering - Plowman/Marchbank
Docherty - Marchbank/LJ - Williamson

Markov does sound like the budget version of Lloyd.
 
Pick 1 this year is worth their 2 (2018 & 2019) first round picks. Remember the club has made it clear it needs to be a very, very good deal for us!

Also, I’m not sold that they will be as bad next year as this year and we hand them Luko!!!!!

What are we a charity case?


Aren’t we bypassing Luko anyway? He’s not going to take them up the ladder in his first year.

Our list is likely to benefit from that trade if we know GC are committing to the King boys.

Win/Win = competent trading in my book




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