2nds West Coast Eagles WAFL 2019

[Nuke Fremantle]

I'd like to know the conditions the Crows reserves team operates under. They finished 1-17 for the year. A team that gets flogged every week is hardly conducive to good development of players.

The team must be eligible for finals. If we're in a comp we should be in it to win it. Also, as mentioned earlier it'll be beneficial in keeping players during AFL finals.

Finally, the Swan Districts board are a funny lot. No commercialisation? I guess they want our players to wear plain wheat bags as jumpers.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I like the idea that we have our own side.

I was able to go to an East Perth game and sit with Keys and Monocle. There was no love for East Perth from any of us, only a desire to see the West Coast players do well. So I will probably have more invested in hoping the players and the team do well, so long as Claremont are up there winning flags and Subiaco get pushed back to where they belong (thank goodness for the new stadium).

I have been an admirer of the Black Ducks so when Swans see a problem, I usually want to hear it. There may be more issues that arise so will need to keep an open mind.

The removal of the bye a big plus
Would probably have liked to see 18 rounds - play home and away once with each team
Not sure about Colts and Reserves - will drain the ammos
Great for Next Generation Academies - will prospective F/S get to play for the club?
Like the idea of not having a home ground to give WAFL teams a leg up - also like the occasional game at Optus. Not likely to see both matches in entirety but maybe we get a rest from hearing as much on game day from Karl

 

[wadeallday]

 

[chaddy22]

If one thing sucked about the club it was the synergy with east Perth.
Now we got a team who is 100% focused on making the league team better

Have a look at Adelaide crows.It maybe better for player development but doubt it will make for a better team.Not sour grapes but will face the same challenges of the crows in getting a competitive team.Will have to play all the rookies and on past experience you will have a team with a very uneven performances.I don't expect a wafl premiership for a long time.

 

[chaddy22]

So many questions. Are we exempt from finals? Do we also have a reserves/Colts team too? Will we play at Lathlain? Or Optus?

no reserv

Yeah especially when the WAFL club in question would've had a bye anyway without the eagles playing in the comp.

Will still most likely be a 18 game season.Will still have byes.The afl has 22 rounds and has a split round.The wafl will have 18 rounds and possibly a stategame.Will start a week after the afl finish a week earlier and will still have byes.Some weeks will have only 4 games and most probably two or three byes for everybody .This is the way the sanfl work and it will most liklely be the same for the wafl.

 

[chaddy22]

Article confirms West Coast will play away - but would be a waste if they didn't do a few curtain raisers.

More exposure for WAFL, the WAFL opposition club and a chance for WAFL players to play at Optus.

Plus Eagles fans get a chance to see the up and coming players.

Curtain raisers would be a win for everyone.

Only if it was eagles and peel before the afl game.In south Australia crows play all their games as away game except one which they play against port Adelaide
in the country.

 

[chaddy22]

It's very easy as WC fans on a WC fan board to think about this from a WC perspective but we do need to think about it from the perspective of everyone else.

The WAFL going back to a 9 team team comp and WC/Freo reserves having to play each other and interstate wouldn't be a great result for anyone.

correction it is a ten team competition next year.The eagles are the tenth team.

 

[WCE1698]

Get Alex Woodward as a rookie, so he can play for us.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Get Alex Woodward as a rookie, so he can play for us.

Pointless, he'll never top his contribution to us on Grand Final day.

(Jokes, Yeo would have intercepted that pass anyway. I don't actually know why Woodward's getting blamed).

 

[Scotland]

correction it is a ten team competition next year.The eagles are the tenth team.

OK?

'Going back to' a 9 team comp would imply a team with more than 9 teams.

 

[chaddy22]

OK?

'Going back to' a 9 team comp would imply a team with more than 9 teams.

Still not correct.East perth is one of the nine teams of the wafl.The eagles is the tenth.Last year was a nine team comp.Cannot be going back to a nine team competition when we already have a nine team competition.We are going to a ten team competition with the addition of the eagles.

 

[Scotland]

Still not correct.East perth is one of the nine teams of the wafl.The eagles is the tenth.Last year was a nine team comp.Cannot be going back to a nine team competition when we already have a nine team competition.We are going to a ten team competition.

Yes...

I'm talking about the WAFL going ahead without WC or Freo involvement. If no AFL-listed players in WA played in the WAFL and we only had Freo reserves to play against that would not be a good outcome for WA footy.

 

[WCE1698]

Pointless, he'll never top his contribution to us on Grand Final day.

(Jokes, Yeo would have intercepted that pass anyway. I don't actually know why Woodward's getting blamed).

He came third in the jj liston medal so he's a good player, he would be a good role model for our young players on field also.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Pending on what top ups we get the bottom line is we will be fielding a colts team with a few men in it playing against seasoned men’s football teams.
I wouldn’t be holding out on the team being very competitive at WAFL level. It will come down to what top ups the Eagles can get.

 

[Seadog]

He came third in the jj liston medal so he's a good player, he would be a good role model for our young players on field also.

He only played 8 games and came third, astounding effort, must of been bog in nearly every game.

 

[Scotland]

Pending on what top ups we get the bottom line is we will be fielding a colts team with a few men in it playing against seasoned men’s football teams.
I wouldn’t be holding out on the team being very competitive at WAFL level. It will come down to what top ups the Eagles can get.

East Perth's last 22 for the year was about half WC listed players, plus a couple of other guys who only ended up at East Perth via being drafted to WC. Wellingham, McGinnity etc.

Take all those guys out and they're in a bit of a hole, plus they only won 8 games out of 18 anyway. The biggest problem I can see is finding an extra 20+ players out of nowhere to fill all the gaps. We saw it with the AFL with GC then GWS coming in, more players who aren't ready or who aren't good enough get a chance at AFL level and that filters down the line. Realistically we'll just be introducing a new team worth of players that aren't that great into the WAFL, albeit split across two sides.

The WAFL is more volatile than the AFL anyway in terms of club fortunes from year to year, but I hope that people don't flip out straight away and give the new arrangement 2-3 years to flatten out. The VFL is an interesting comparison. More reserves teams obviously but there seems to be no hard and fast trend to how that pans out. Box Hill generally seem to do well, Footscray have been prominent since kicking off but Port Melbourne won a couple of recent flags and Williamstown won once they are non affiliated. Considering 2/3 of the clubs are affiliated they don't fare that well.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

They need to be eligible for the finals otherwise it makes a mockery of the competition.

This season finished with East Perth on 8 wins in 5th, Perth and Peel on 7 wins in 6th and 7th. Replace East Perth with WC reserves and Perth are in the finals finishing 6th.

Sounds good to me.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

East Perth's last 22 for the year was about half WC listed players, plus a couple of other guys who only ended up at East Perth via being drafted to WC. Wellingham, McGinnity etc.

Take all those guys out and they're in a bit of a hole, plus they only won 8 games out of 18 anyway. The biggest problem I can see is finding an extra 20+ players out of nowhere to fill all the gaps. We saw it with the AFL with GC then GWS coming in, more players who aren't ready or who aren't good enough get a chance at AFL level and that filters down the line. Realistically we'll just be introducing a new team worth of players that aren't that great into the WAFL, albeit split across two sides.

The WAFL is more volatile than the AFL anyway in terms of club fortunes from year to year, but I hope that people don't flip out straight away and give the new arrangement 2-3 years to flatten out. The VFL is an interesting comparison. More reserves teams obviously but there seems to be no hard and fast trend to how that pans out. Box Hill generally seem to do well, Footscray have been prominent since kicking off but Port Melbourne won a couple of recent flags and Williamstown won once they are non affiliated. Considering 2/3 of the clubs are affiliated they don't fare that well.

We both know it matters not whether it’s working out they will tell us it’s the best thing.
The original arrangement where players were spread across the league was the best for developing them as senior footballers. The downside was they did not play all together. The only time they were not together though was for the 3 hours of the WAFL match.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

How many ex players will come over?
Wellingham
McGin
Gorter
Magginess
Swift
Wooden
Turley

 

[bUCKET__]

I hope the rumours are false and we can still entice Blaine to our standalone side.

 

[joeyavalanche]

Have a look at Adelaide crows.It maybe better for player development but doubt it will make for a better team.Not sour grapes but will face the same challenges of the crows in getting a competitive team.Will have to play all the rookies and on past experience you will have a team with a very uneven performances.I don't expect a wafl premiership for a long time.

All that matters to me is that they help the league team. If they so happen to win games then so be it.

 

[avishka5]

I hope the rumours are false and we can still entice Blaine to our standalone side.

Brumbies have put a $7million contract plus given shares in the Baldivis Jetts to him.

 

[TY24]

Have to play finals if they earn them. No membership as every game will be an away game and admissions go to support the home club. Plain royal jumper with no wings and plain gold jumper for clashes.

I wouldn't be against the gold training strip with royal shorts.

 

[JADED]

I'd like to know the conditions the Crows reserves team operates under. They finished 1-17 for the year. A team that gets flogged every week is hardly conducive to good development of players.

The team must be eligible for finals. If we're in a comp we should be in it to win it. Also, as mentioned earlier it'll be beneficial in keeping players during AFL finals.

Finally, the Swan Districts board are a funny lot. No commercialisation? I guess they want our players to wear plain wheat bags as jumpers.

They fill the side with some ammos that aren't even close to SANFL talent though, so as they say, weakest link.

 

[fomoco04]

I've been thinking about the reserves team and have a million questions (only a slight exaggeration)

How good this is for the league team can't be understated enough. The ability for fringe and development players to use the same facilities and staff access all the time will make transition to the main team much easier and quicker. Having the same training systems can only improve the guys are called up to play in the league team on gameday. There's no conflict of interest that we had with the East Perth and what they wanted out of their players that were not eagles aligned.

From what I can see so far there's no info if we are playing for points (or even playing finals for that matter) but you'd think we would want to do both and the WAFL would want us to do both. If we are just there for training purposes each weekend its a knock on the WAFL competition. Each week the team playing us would either get 4 free points or have their own training run for no points. So you'd think points for the match are a given.

How do we get the top-up players? I'd assume we could not poach players from existing WAFL clubs (and it would be unfair to). Do we go out and draft young guys from the country leagues?

Last question for now. How big is a standard WAFL list?

We know very little so far but it can't be long before info starts to come out. Its only a few months until they have to be up and running.

Exciting times.