Martin solid B+WOW !!
Just for an idea , Who at Richmond would you consider Elite now and in 3 years time
Riewoldt Solid B-
Everyone Solid C and below
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Martin solid B+WOW !!
Just for an idea , Who at Richmond would you consider Elite now and in 3 years time
I have the same list as Soapy in the elites. But 4 of his maybes i think are a huge chance to be better than maybes. Think they will most likely get there.WOW !!
Just for an idea , Who at Richmond would you consider Elite now and in 3 years time
I think there’s been a bit of overhyping what dow accomplished in his first season, he was ok. Showed he has what it takes but it was not an amazing first year. Sps was quietly better all season.rather have Dow myself...in ST
as for LT - too hard.
For their positions...WOW !!
Just for an idea , Who at Richmond would you consider Elite now and in 3 years time
I reckon Kennedy will be in the middle as much as anyone. He's tough and helps Cripps a lot. Having the ability to rotate Cripps Kennedy Dow SPS Walsh Setterfield Curnow Fisher through the middle and not really lose much will be a major strength
I'm still very hopeful on Cunningham. Just needs a consistent run at it
For their position surely you would need to add Caddy (46 goals with ) Shane Edwards AAFor their positions...
Grimes, Astbury, Lambert, Martin, Riewoldt, Rance, Cotchin (just)
Fisher will be very good and a big part of our future but Setterfield & Walsh are something very special. Dow as well. Not a criticism of Fisher at all but we are talking elite types
Nah, caddy and Edwards are very good players, they’re not elite. That’s being far too liberal with the term. Andy walker kicked 60 goals one season. Didn’t make him an elite player. Just a very good one (when his knees weren’t trying to ruin his career). Caddy is at his third club, he didn’t suddenly become elite. He’s been a good player and has entered an elite setup that uses his skill set well. Completely replaceable in your setup.For their position surely you would need to add Caddy (46 goals with ) Shane Edwards AA
He'd be better off running the race. Undressing your teammate is a bit weird.LOB would pull Dows pants down over the distance at Flemington …… I'de wager my houses on it.
Also RioliFor their position surely you would need to add Caddy (46 goals with ) Shane Edwards AA
Nah...... Dow is class with guts and mongrel. As for a 1st season, playing most of it is quite the acheivement for any youngster regardless of list or injuries.I think there’s been a bit of overhyping what dow accomplished in his first season, he was ok. Showed he has what it takes but it was not an amazing first year. Sps was quietly better all season.
I may be a tad biased here though. I do think Sps could be our most talented player and win a Brownlow before anyone else on the list.... if Crippa doesn’t win next season.
Very generous I must say.....Martin solid B+
Riewoldt Solid B-
Everyone Solid C and below
Expect the word "potential" to come up in discussions a lot.
Could you make a list of which players you think will become 'Elite' in 5 years and i would include Cripps in that list even though he will be 29 in 2023
WOW !!
Just for an idea , Who at Richmond would you consider Elite now and in 3 years time
Nah, caddy and Edwards are very good players, they’re not elite. That’s being far too liberal with the term. Andy walker kicked 60 goals one season. Didn’t make him an elite player. Just a very good one (when his knees weren’t trying to ruin his career). Caddy is at his third club, he didn’t suddenly become elite. He’s been a good player and has entered an elite setup that uses his skill set well. Completely replaceable in your setup.
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I think there’s been a bit of overhyping what dow accomplished in his first season, he was ok. Showed he has what it takes but it was not an amazing first year. Sps was quietly better all season.
Walsh DID go number 1.One of those things that can come back to bite, but If I was to predict which of our mids will have the most influence going forward, (Cripps excluded) I'd have it something like this for now:
1. Dow..............His break-away speed will become a huge asset to us.
2. Walsh............Could have gone #1 easily enough.
3. Fisher............Rated him before we drafted him and rate him much higher now. Size not an issue.
4. Setterfield......Would likely have had him higher if not for injury. If he truly overcomes the early set-backs, he could be anything.
5. Kennedy........His grunt will be required and may get the jump ahead of others.
6. SPS...............Not that I don't rate him, but not sure he'll be required here as much as others.
7. Stocker..........Someone had to be placed last and with Kennedy ahead, he'll need to find other ways of being a starting 22.
Can't find a way of including Polson nor Lang here. Too many may be in front.
Won't include the guys that aren't likely to be regular starting mids but may spend more game-time on the flanks; Williamson, Cuningham, O'Brien.
Yeah he did some special things, so did Sps. I think dow will be special, don’t get me wrong. I still think Sps is ahead of him though and that it is overhyping Dow to say he’s already ahead of SPS.Dow was a first year player and in a poor side he did incredibly well. Some of the things he did were "special"
One of those things that can come back to bite, but If I was to predict which of our mids will have the most influence going forward, (Cripps excluded) I'd have it something like this for now:
1. Dow..............His break-away speed will become a huge asset to us.
2. Walsh............Could have gone #1 easily enough.
3. Fisher............Rated him before we drafted him and rate him much higher now. Size not an issue.
4. Setterfield......Would likely have had him higher if not for injury. If he truly overcomes the early set-backs, he could be anything.
5. Kennedy........His grunt will be required and may get the jump ahead of others.
6. SPS...............Not that I don't rate him, but not sure he'll be required here as much as others.
7. Stocker..........Someone had to be placed last and with Kennedy ahead, he'll need to find other ways of being a starting 22.
Can't find a way of including Polson nor Lang here. Too many may be in front.
Won't include the guys that aren't likely to be regular starting mids but may spend more game-time on the flanks; Williamson, Cuningham, O'Brien.
I was gonna post the exact same exercise yesterday with the exact same 7 mids plus O'Brien and rate them 1 to 8 on gut feel how they'll be over the next 8 years and then ask others their rankings.....but i couldn't make up my mind on my own bloody rankings first lol.
Good effort Harks.
My stab (which could vary by tomorrow and then vary back again by the next day i suppose):
1. Walsh - just a beast, and a leader.
2. Dow - Game breaker. Wait til his deference dissipates and he realises they can't match him.
3. SPS - Got the magic. Now got/getting the body. A credit to him what he's done with his life so far.
4. Kennedy - Got the least wow but will be a bedrock that his fellow mids can rely on.
5. Fisher - Zac Merritt. Will cut teams up with laser attacks on the ball and disposals. Also natural goalkicker.
6. O'Brien - An AFL pro.
7. Setterfield - looks to have awesome hands. Some of the wraps are intriguing. Let's see.
8. Stocker - prolly not fair to have him in this field as it's too early basically.
One of those things that can come back to bite, but If I was to predict which of our mids will have the most influence going forward, (Cripps excluded) I'd have it something like this for now:
1. Dow..............His break-away speed will become a huge asset to us.
2. Walsh............Could have gone #1 easily enough.
3. Fisher............Rated him before we drafted him and rate him much higher now. Size not an issue.
4. Setterfield......Would likely have had him higher if not for injury. If he truly overcomes the early set-backs, he could be anything.
5. Kennedy........His grunt will be required and may get the jump ahead of others.
6. SPS...............Not that I don't rate him, but not sure he'll be required here as much as others.
7. Stocker..........Someone had to be placed last and with Kennedy ahead, he'll need to find other ways of being a starting 22.
Can't find a way of including Polson nor Lang here. Too many may be in front.
Won't include the guys that aren't likely to be regular starting mids but may spend more game-time on the flanks; Williamson, Cuningham, O'Brien.