Cam Guthrie

[Vdubs]

Just your average ordinary player

Age 26, 141 games- hardly average or ordinary, and had to get over a serious ankle injury.

 

[PatrickBateman]

Age 26, 141 games- hardly average or ordinary, and had to get over a serious ankle injury.

Yes he's at his peak in terms of age / experience, his level is fringe or just above.

From every statistical point of view, he's absolutely nothing but average and ordinary I'm afraid. I've shown this time and time again. A lot of players deal with injuries too, most in fact. Guthrie's woes started much before the ankle anyway. Cop out.

 

[Vdubs]

Yes he's at his peak in terms of age / experience, his level is fringe or just above.

From every statistical point of view, he's absolutely nothing but average and ordinary I'm afraid. I've shown this time and time again. A lot of players deal with injuries too, most in fact. Guthrie's woes started much before the ankle anyway. Cop out.

Average in comparison with Danger, Selwood, GAJ, Mitchell.... no issue there, but as an AFL footballer he is above average by every definition. You are too biased and full of vitriol to acknowledge that.

 

[PatrickBateman]

Average in comparison with Danger, Selwood, GAJ, Mitchell.... no issue there, but as an AFL footballer he is above average by every definition. You are too biased and full of vitriol to acknowledge that.

Average compared to Duncan, Menegola, Kelly... the list goes on.

Above average in every definition? List them. I'll give the stats that suggests you're incorrect.

 

[Vdubs]

Average compared to Duncan, Menegola, Kelly... the list goes on.

Above average in every definition? List them. I'll give the stats that suggests you're incorrect.

The average career of an AFL footballer is 90 games.
Guthrie is already well above that.
No more needs to be said by us armchair critics who between us have played ZERO games at his level.

 

[PatrickBateman]

The average career of an AFL footballer is 90 games.
Guthrie is already well above that.
No more needs to be said by us armchair critics who between us have played ZERO games at his level.

Lol, this deems him 'above average by every definition' does it? Number of games played alone? Quality..

If you haven't played AFL, and your opinion is admittedly worth so little, why have you bothered posting 27,000 armchair critic posts?

 

[Vdubs]

Lol, this deems him 'above average by every definition' does it? Number of games played alone? Quality..

If you haven't played AFL, and your opinion is admittedly worth so little, why have you bothered posting 27,000 armchair critic posts?

A ridiculous passion I have for footy and our team, and its players.

You can not dispute the irrefutable. Games played encompasses it all. You can not get to near 150 games at age 26 by being "average". Any other stats are just fuelling your rage.

 

[theyellowsash]

He's ok

 

[Damon_3388]

A ridiculous passion I have for footy and our team, and its players.

You can not dispute the irrefutable. Games played encompasses it all. You can not get to near 150 games at age 26 by being "average". Any other stats are just fuelling your rage.

I think you overrate the value of "getting a game" in an 18-team league. Every team is carrying a couple of regulars that are pretty mediocre. Types that are not bad, but not great either.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, Guthrie was knocking on the door of taking that "next step" a few years back, but he's declined and been decidedly average ever since.

 

[Vdubs]

I think you overrate the value of "getting a game" in an 18-team league. Every team is carrying a couple of regulars that are pretty mediocre. Types that are not bad, but not great either.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, Guthrie was knocking on the door of taking that "next step" a few years back, but he's declined and been decidedly average ever since.

He has dropped away, no argument there, from our pov, but in the big picture, he is better than average, and his versatility puts him in positions where stats can be poor. The criticism of him being a passenger, timid, soft etc seems unjustified to me.
We all have opinions. Imo, easily in our best 22.

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

He was one of the reasons I named my dog Guthrie. When we got him from the rescue home and threw a ball he seemed to just run around a lot without actually doing anything constructive with the ball.

He can play a role but he's been frustrating as all hell the past couple of years.

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

He was one of the reasons I named my dog Guthrie. When we got him from the rescue home and threw a ball he seemed to just run around a lot without actually doing anything constructive with the ball.

He can play a role but he's been frustrating as all hell the past couple of years.

What are the other reasons?

 

[Shaneprice97]

always thought he would do well at Collingwood as a shut down small defender.

Honesly being wasted as a midfielder.

 

[PhatBoy]

He is scum. Will never forget him going after to Max Gawn after the siren went when Gawn missed in tound 1and started getting into him.

Proves and shows what an absolute campaigner of a person he is.

Lucky Gawn had the last laugh.

Hope karma bites him even harder this year.

Oh yes because this is very unique behaviour and, hypothetically, would be in no way appropriate if, say, Gawn had given it to him earlier in the game.

No, this, THIS one act is what determines someone’s quality rofl.

 

[Johanpetro]

Why is there a thread on the main board on one of the most bog standard average players in the league?

 

[PhatBoy]

Why is there a thread on the main board on one of the most bog standard average players in the league?

Um, because the poster wanted to find out the view other clubs have of him.

Should he have just started 17 threads in 17 different club boards?
Started a thread on the cats board and tagged every non-cats fan on the forum?

 

[Back One Out]

My main perception of Guthrie is that he has no neck and looks weird.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Oh yes because this is very unique behaviour and, hypothetically, would be in no way appropriate if, say, Gawn had given it to him earlier in the game.

No, this, THIS one act is what determines someone’s quality rofl.

And i have no issue with both of them going at each other during the game. All part of the appropriate parcel.

But then to go and rub it in and give it him after he miss after the siren? Not only bad sportsmanship but a campaigner act.

Anyway Guthrie is a spud and karma bit his ass hard in September.

So I'm happy

 

[PhatBoy]

And i have no issue with both of them going at each other during the game. All part of the appropriate parcel.

But then to go and rub it in and give it him after he miss after the siren? Not only bad sportsmanship but a campaigner act.

Anyway Guthrie is a spud and karma bit his ass hard in September.

So I'm happy

Karma would be if he missed a shot after the siren and had it rubbed in his face. He didn’t.

I don’t have any drama with someone getting stuck in when it happens. If it happened two seconds before the siren (and everyone knew it had cost the demons the match) the same reaction wouldn’t elicit any cribbing. I’m sure within a couple of minutes if their paths crossed again, there’d be a ‘bad luck mate’ and that would be the end of it.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Karma would be if he missed a shot after the siren and had it rubbed in his face. He didn’t.

I don’t have any drama with someone getting stuck in when it happens. If it happened two seconds before the siren (and everyone knew it had cost the demons the match) the same reaction wouldn’t elicit any cribbing. I’m sure within a couple of minutes if their paths crossed again, there’d be a ‘bad luck mate’ and that would be the end of it.

But they didn't, so Spudthrie is a campaigner.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

For someone who I think has great acceleration whether it be from standing or a slow walk/jog, he gets caught an awful lot.

 

[PhatBoy]

But they didn't, so Spudthrie is a campaigner.

How long did it take you to come up with that one?

 

[Vdubs]

Why is there a thread on the main board on one of the most bog standard average players in the league?

Why are you contributing?

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

What are the other reasons?

 

[dazzledavey36]

How long did it take you to come up with that one?

Nah not long, have said it right from the very start.