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I thought you were out ?
I probably will be, just wanted to hang around for a bit and watch what happens now.

The first one of you I responded to has just called me an RWNJ, not half a page after I mentioned I'd probably be voting labor.
What's your take on that?
 
I probably will be, just wanted to hang around for a bit and watch what happens now.

The first one of you I responded to has just called me an RWNJ, not half a page after I mentioned I'd probably be voting labor.
What's your take on that?
Yeah i saw you say that.

That has nothing to do with what i posted though.
Do you just not like KK or something ??

It's ok if you don't.
 
I probably will be, just wanted to hang around for a bit and watch what happens now.

The first one of you I responded to has just called me an RWNJ, not half a page after I mentioned I'd probably be voting labor.
What's your take on that?
Just let the joke go, set it free, release yourself. move on
 

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Yeah i saw you say that.

That has nothing to do with what i posted though.
Do you just not like KK or something ??

It's ok if you don't.
I know if it's ok if I don't. I'm not a supporter of partisan politics, and I don't think much of those who are, or who find unfunny things funny just because they were said by someone of their own political affiliation. I mean, let's face it - if that internet thing had been said by Dutton, by way of example, you'd be spending the next ten years writing forum posts about how badly he flubbed trying to be funny. Amiright? Of course I am.
Although you'd obviously have to read a tweet mentioning that she'd got the relationship between the internet and the grid wrong or something first, because you've made it obvious it's not something you could have figured out for yourself even when it was shoved under your nose.

So you really don't need to be telling me what's okay and what isn't, I'd prefer to make up mind own mind on the subject, and to be quite honest I'd think considerably less of anyone who admitted to being guided by the likes of you and your compadres. You actually haven't shown me anything to indicate you do much thinking at all.
But FWIW, I don't really have much of an opinion on Kirsten or Kristin whatever her name is. I'm not into identity politics or popularity contests, and I'm fairly good at being able to spot it when someone is trying to be something they're not for a vote. Her performance in this video wasn't really all that convincing and even seemed a bit contrived in places, but I guess it was good enough to win over the more common bloke.

I'd rather listen to what they're going to do.


I think I'm just going to call you DH, from now on. From what I'm seeing, it's perfectly fine to insult people as long as you abbreviate the name calling.

Over to you, DH.
 
Just offering some advice, I didn't weigh in on the joke at all, just suggesting it's time to let it go and move on. You don't have to of course.
You're weighing in right now, for no readily apparent reason.

Now, if you were to admit you find the behavior of this pack of twits a little offensive, I might believe you. But that you're addressing me, and telling me to move on, suggests that you have a stake in this and pretending not to.
Or you're just a liar. Which is it?
 
Well thats afew minutes of my life I wont get back. Keneally acting like a smarmy smartarse (there's a change). Desperately trying to equate a govt doing the right thing by exploring a new technology with Bill and his deputy announcing this as govt policy.

She had good comic timing, which caused bill shorten to laugh even though he’d heard it before.

If you want a smarmy reference, watch scomo not quite doing borat
 
I know if it's ok if I don't. I'm not a supporter of partisan politics, and I don't think much of those who are, or who find unfunny things funny just because they were said by someone of their own political affiliation. I mean, let's face it - if that internet thing had been said by Dutton, by way of example, you'd be spending the next ten years writing forum posts about how badly he flubbed trying to be funny. Amiright? Of course I am.
Although you'd obviously have to read a tweet mentioning that she'd got the relationship between the internet and the grid wrong or something first, because you've made it obvious it's not something you could have figured out for yourself even when it was shoved under your nose.

So you really don't need to be telling me what's okay and what isn't, I'd prefer to make up mind own mind on the subject, and to be quite honest I'd think considerably less of anyone who admitted to being guided by the likes of you and your compadres. You actually haven't shown me anything to indicate you do much thinking at all.
But FWIW, I don't really have much of an opinion on Kirsten or Kristin whatever her name is. I'm not into identity politics or popularity contests, and I'm fairly good at being able to spot it when someone is trying to be something they're not for a vote. Her performance in this video wasn't really all that convincing and even seemed a bit contrived in places, but I guess it was good enough to win over the more common bloke.

I'd rather listen to what they're going to do.


I think I'm just going to call you DH, from now on. From what I'm seeing, it's perfectly fine to insult people as long as you abbreviate the name calling.

Over to you, DH.
NOW we're getting to the crux of it.

You seem to know a lot about me for someone who's only just rocked up here in the last 7 days...................................................................................................................................................................

That's fine , you can call me DH , i'll just call you FW
That was easy lol

Keep fighting the good fight ( the fight against politicians taking the piss ) comrade , oops i mean FW ;)
 
You do realise the 50% relates to new car sales, not old vehicles which have been around for years?

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So to not be a typical misleading politician (both sides), they should simply state they believe/ plan 2030 will be the first year 50% of sales will be EV. Then when you start doing the maths of 50% or more of sales for 5 year, will be well in excess to 10% perhaps even as high as 25%.

We should also have criminal penalties for political misleading and deceptive representations AND a requirement for politicians to support forward looking statements. As there is no way to market and infrastructure could support this statement. Hybrid yes but not EV.

Given petrol will be cheaper in 2035 than it is today, the economic reason and even the environmental benefit (perhaps loss) simply doesn't stack up. So I'd love to hear their logic other than..............I want to be voted in.
 

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Just offering some advice, I didn't weigh in on the joke at all, just suggesting it's time to let it go and move on. You don't have to of course.
NO NO MATE !!!!
This is the most important issue our generation has ever faced !!!!
 
yes

So to not be a typical misleading politician (both sides), they should simply state they believe/ plan 2030 will be the first year 50% of sales will be EV. Then when you start doing the maths of 50% or more of sales for 5 year, will be well in excess to 10% perhaps even as high as 25%.

We should also have criminal penalties for political misleading and deceptive representations AND a requirement for politicians to support forward looking statements. As there is no way to market and infrastructure could support this statement. Hybrid yes but not EV.

Given petrol will be cheaper in 2035 than it is today, the economic reason and even the environmental benefit (perhaps loss) simply doesn't stack up. So I'd love to hear their logic other than..............I want to be voted in.
WTF are you dribbling about? Literally nothing you have written makes sense.

... and I love your assumption that "petrol will be cheaper in 2035" - based on what?

Labor has stated that they have set a target of 50%. They obviously can't force people to buy electric cars, but they take actions to encourage people to buy them. That would include tax & stamp duty concessions (reducing the cost of purchase & operation), and building fast recharge stations (addressing the range issues).

In any case, the motor vehicle manufacturers are mostly voting with their feet, in complete agreement with Labor's plans. Several have already announced timeframes for ceasing the production of petrol & diesel vehicles, switching to hybrid/electric/hydrogen vehicles only.

Besides... you do realise that the Libs have a 25-50% target for electric cars? In criticising Labor (which is all they know how to do), they're actually criticising their own policy. The funny thing is that they, and their supporters, are too dumb to realise.
 

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Alan Jones and co trying to talk up ALPs energy policy as Bill shortens version of John Hewsons GST and electric cars the birthday cake.

Quite apart from the GST was to be compulsory as soon as possible, and the electric car timeframe three elections hence and a free choice to consumers.

It seems like a very long bow to draw. But sky is sounding desperate

Not a lot of difference in the two party’s energy policy. It’s just that labor is motivated to actually achieve

Whereas the coalition is either:

1 too useless to deliver (NEG
2 too intransigent and whiteanting it’s own policy cos it’s too weak to take its troglodyte secret agenda to an election
3 possibly secretly informing voters on the ground of its motivation to item 2
 
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yes

So to not be a typical misleading politician (both sides), they should simply state they believe/ plan 2030 will be the first year 50% of sales will be EV. Then when you start doing the maths of 50% or more of sales for 5 year, will be well in excess to 10% perhaps even as high as 25%.

We should also have criminal penalties for political misleading and deceptive representations AND a requirement for politicians to support forward looking statements. As there is no way to market and infrastructure could support this statement. Hybrid yes but not EV.

Given petrol will be cheaper in 2035 than it is today, the economic reason and even the environmental benefit (perhaps loss) simply doesn't stack up. So I'd love to hear their logic other than..............I want to be voted in.

Misleading statements? Tale any coalition ad in any election since howard was PM. There wouldn’t be any liberals walking the streets
 
Labor has stated that they have set a target of 50%. They obviously can't force people to buy electric cars, but they take actions to encourage people to buy them.
Labor are a nightmare in waiting and you have inadvertently hit on the crux of it. They will turn equate diesel 4wd ownership with smoking and so begins the next great tax gouge. Here in Australia where any lefty dickhead never- leaves -suburbia fool is insulated.
 
Labor are a nightmare in waiting and you have inadvertently hit on the crux of it. They will turn equate diesel 4wd ownership with smoking and so begins the next great tax gouge. Here in Australia where any lefty dickhead never- leaves -suburbia fool is insulated.

Biggest tax increases recently? Tobacco taxes under the Coalition
 

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