Bluemour Discussion Thread XVIII - Please Sir, Can We Have More?

[Benaly28]

Daniher isn’t keen on leaving Essendon. Bombers will push him if the deal is right.

Maybe just maybe * know he is injury prone and might want to cash in before his value goes down.

 

[jackn]

SOS will make Eddie an offer.

He can either accept that and be happy at Carlton OR take the big $ and be miserable in Adelaide.

Eddie supposedly left last time for an extra $50k per year - will be interesting to see what happens this time.

IMHO Eddie needs us more than we need him.

I thought he was offered a shit load more by Adelaide and another team. He didn't want to go but the difference was huge. Then asked for an extra 50k to close the gap between the 2 offers, got told no and so left. Hard to hold that against him.

 

[Doro]

To be fair, I didn’t offer a definition... just a rejection of the idea the only players good enough for us to target are the absolute AFL elite top ~10 in the league.

Anyone we get will have strengths and weaknesses, but some seem too keen to see what mooted trade targets CAN’T do rather than what they definitely CAN.

Wines and Papley would both be great gets for us. Ecstatic if we got either.

I don't think anyone will be upset if we manage to snag Ollie Wines. There is just discussion about how well he fits our list in terms of how much we need to cough up price wise. Differing views are a good thing imo.

 

[Garters]

SOS will make Eddie an offer.

He can either accept that and be happy at Carlton OR take the big $ and be miserable in Adelaide.

Eddie supposedly left last time for an extra $50k per year - will be interesting to see what happens this time.

IMHO Eddie needs us more than we need him.

Eddy at early 33, twilight of career and having extracted circa 6-8M in contract and endoresment deals across a decent career doesn't 'need' Carlton. It seems he feels he has more to give and would like to do so reconnecting with Teague / Carlton, get out of the Adelaide sh*t storm. We are rebuilding lack small forward capability but good developing list and plenty of moving parts this trade period. We don't 'need' Betts per se either, but could be handy for a season or two + off field stuff. Given where both parties are at, it would be a pretty easy deal and benefit both sides. SOS would be aware of this and Betts, management also. He would not cost much. This is why it will prob get done. Neither really need each other but both would get a good short term outcome if it did materialise. He would be a good get for the club, and if he kicks 30 odd goals for a couple of years which by all indicators would suggest he probably would before moving into an off field role then great.

 

[manang magoos]

Muscat from the freezer

Yer too that magnificent

 

[Eiffel 65]

I don't think anyone will be upset if we manage to snag Ollie Wines. There is just discussion about how well he fits our list in terms of how much we need to cough up price wise. Differing views are a good thing imo.

I wouldn't go for Wines, even if he was a free agent. Not what we need and at this stage of our list build, we need to be more selective.

What will be interesting is the speculation around Tomlinson. Dropped for the first elimination final. Is there more to that than form?

Probably not, but if the club views him as a fringe player, he may be the one they're most willing to let go to free up cap space.

On a side note, I like the fact that we've been linked to Tom Cutler. Think he would suit us nicely. Better fit than Wines due to his run and carry ability.

 

[Doro]

I wouldn't go for Wines, even if he was a free agent. Not what we need and at this stage of our list build, we need to be more selective.

What will be interesting is the speculation around Tomlinson. Dropped for the first elimination final. Is there more to that than form?

Probably not, but if the club views him as a fringe player, he may be the one they're most willing to let go to free up cap space.

I like the fact that we've been linked to Tom Cutler. Think he would suit us nicely. Better fit than Wines due to his run and carry ability.

Tomlinson omitted might be as simple as the ins: Deledio, Greene, Haynes, Hopper. Pretty handy inclusions. He's been close to leaving before though so I wouldn't be surprised if he explored options. Haven't seen enough of Cutler to form an opinion, but yeah I'd prefer the run and carry to an inside mid.

 

[Eiffel 65]

Tomlinson omitted might be as simple as the ins: Deledio, Greene, Haynes, Hopper. Pretty handy inclusions. He's been close to leaving before though so I wouldn't be surprised if he explored options. Haven't seen enough of Cutler to form an opinion, but yeah I'd prefer the run and carry to an inside mid.

I think so too. GWS had a lot of injuries and most have now returned to full fitness. Only Ward and Coniglio remain injured from their starting 22.

Cutler showed plenty in 2018. Very surprised he struggled to get a game this season. I guess that demonstrates the depth that Brisbane have progressively built up over time.

 

[J-dog]

Don't remember insulting, just a poor attempt at a pun on the name. If you feel insulted, I humbly apologise.

All good mate

 

[Doro]

I think so too. GWS had a lot of injuries and most have now returned to full fitness. Only Ward and Coniglio remain injured from their starting 22.

Cutler showed plenty in 2018. Very surprised he struggled to get a game this season. I guess that demonstrates the depth that Brisbane have progressively built up over time.

Josh Kelly and Hopper starting on the pine, nice luxury to have. Incredible waste that they haven't made a GF with their level of talent.

 

[bigdog43]

Maybe just maybe * know he is injury prone and might want to cash in before his value goes down.

Bingo

 

[Eiffel 65]

Tomlinson omitted might be as simple as the ins: Deledio, Greene, Haynes, Hopper. Pretty handy inclusions. He's been close to leaving before though so I wouldn't be surprised if he explored options. Haven't seen enough of Cutler to form an opinion, but yeah I'd prefer the run and carry to an inside mid.

FWIW, Sam Landsberger is reporting that Tomlinson will be on the move this year due to the cap squeeze.

Source: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...g/news-story/2a970a51ba8bcd52d2901d31474f4db3

 

[skadoosh]

Ollie Wines Addresses Rumours About His Future

Ollie Wines’ manager has “unequivocally” shut down suggestions the Port Adelaide co-captain could be “gettable” during the upcoming AFL trade period. Nick Gieschen has told The Advertiser: “It’s unequivocally...

www.fiveaa.com.au

 

[Hands On]

What are we thinking B Crouch costs trade wise considering our recent relationship with the Crows?

Whatever SOS Decides. Crows will just blink and it will be done.

 

[blue89]

I was passed on this info by the person who told me we were after libba plus bomber and cousins as coaches last year.

SOS is winding back to clock to his glory days of 5 for the price of 1 deals. He is bringing the crew back together for a 3rd round pick. Jacobs, Gibbs and Betts. Sticking point on the trade was that Adelaide were after a former leading goal kicker at the club to replace for Betts' output, but didn't realise Matty Wright retired (things are a little slow in that country town so news has taken a year to get there).

SOS approached Gill to see if we could somehow get Wright back on the list before trade period, initially he wasn't receptive as it was seen to be helping Carlton, but SOS put together a presentation showing that Gibbs, Jacobs and Betts are all on the decline and Matty Wright has managed to increase his output even while being retired so will only be a benefit to the Crows (SOS is a genius).

After that Gill was on board and is coming up with some loophole to make this happen as he wants to do all he can to make sure the Crows get their man.

Still a lot of water to go under the bridge, but watch this space......

#Bluemour

 

[ShanDog]

All good mate

This board ain't big enough for two dogs...

 

[ShanDog]

FWIW, Sam Landsberger is reporting that Tomlinson will be on the move this year due to the cap squeeze.

Source: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...g/news-story/2a970a51ba8bcd52d2901d31474f4db3

Tomlinson is a very good player to have on the list, but is he one that notably improves the side in positions we need it?

 

[Doro]

FWIW, Sam Landsberger is reporting that Tomlinson will be on the move this year due to the cap squeeze.

Source: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...g/news-story/2a970a51ba8bcd52d2901d31474f4db3

Interesting, Melbourne the ones he mentioned. Not sure where we would play him with LOB developing on a wing and JSOS as utility.

 

[F_therest]

I wouldn't go for Wines, even if he was a free agent. Not what we need and at this stage of our list build, we need to be more selective.

What will be interesting is the speculation around Tomlinson. Dropped for the first elimination final. Is there more to that than form?

Probably not, but if the club views him as a fringe player, he may be the one they're most willing to let go to free up cap space.

On a side note, I like the fact that we've been linked to Tom Cutler. Think he would suit us nicely. Better fit than Wines due to his run and carry ability.

Not interested in Tomlinson either tbh...seems to me still a bit parts player. Nothing more than a good role player imo.

What's his best position, wing maybe? Happy to roll with the likes of LOB/Setterfield/Gibbons/Fisher/SPS etc in that position.
He'd probably become a fringe player in our team in a few years anyway.

 

[Eiffel 65]

Tomlinson is a very good player to have on the list, but is he one that notably improves the side in positions we need it?

He could replace Murphy on the wing, however, there's definitely more pressing needs at the moment.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Relevance??

Read the f***ing post I replied to please........

Or how about you don't swear at me thanks.

 

[Manhattanite]

Ollie Wines Addresses Rumours About His Future

Ollie Wines’ manager has “unequivocally” shut down suggestions the Port Adelaide co-captain could be “gettable” during the upcoming AFL trade period. Nick Gieschen has told The Advertiser: “It’s unequivocally...

www.fiveaa.com.au

This could be a last effort by Wines manager to have Wines retained as co-Captain. There’s been talk that the players had voted for Jonas to be captain but Wines was added by the Club due to his contract negotiations. Theres now talk they will be only retaining Jonas as Captain. The manager is trying to show loyalty and love for the club and players etc.

I think Wines is still in play for us and a few other clubs. In fact the Bombers may well be getting Daniher out to pick up a physical inside player like Wines who has been brilliant in the Finals he has played.




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[thylacine60]

Has been a lot of talk with Sydney in the last 48 hrs

finally, o'keefe!!

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Tomlinson is a very good player to have on the list, but is he one that notably improves the side in positions we need it?

At first glance, I would say no, but I tend not to pay a lot of attention Watching Giants games on Fox Footy or 7 (I often read a book or crossword puzzles) so I probably haven't watched him closely enough to make an honest assessment either way.

Didn't we make a big play for him last time he was out of contract? Wonder if we are still as keen ?

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Has been a lot of talk with Sydney in the last 48 hrs

Didn't think the Cameron deal would take that long to nut out