News 2019 Rumour File - discuss rumours here! (Part 2)

[Tex Danger]

Jenkins and betts will imo.

Betts wife

 

[Fivel_79]

14 and 32 for Keath and 23, with perhaps a swap of later picks.

Bulldogs can then give 23 to Saints for Bruce, Saints on trade for Jones.


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Totally agree. This has to be our play with Keath.

 

[Peter Doherty]

They’re all on here though.

Who here thinks that?

 

[Tex Danger]

Totally agree. This has to be our play with Keath.

 

[skam85]

They’re all on here though.

They're not apologists though...

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Cam did well, key word was divide. We need a retired player to do a tell all, come on down Richie

Burton has to go....

To Pyke credit he in the end realised the camp has dine damage that cant be repaired unless the key people responsible for rhe camp are gone and the club can have some clean air to move forward

Pyke has put thr club 1st and resigned, Burton's refusal to do so means he needs to be sacked

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[FantasticShirt]

Given our Communication Strategy over the past 2 years, Ian Shuttleworth should have been first out the door.


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I’ve been calling for his head for years. He’s atrocious at his job. When’s the last time the crows managed something well with the media? Just awful stuff. He’s up there with Burton.

 

[DJ75]

Cam's admission and him blaming the camp on the poor showing in 2017, makes it IMPOSSIBLE for Burton to survive. It was HIS camp. Not Pyke's. Not the 'Football Department'. It was his idea and his bunch of hacks.

He simply has to go.

If he survives this the club is done.

 

[hey shorty]

There was but the playing group played s**t

He said it divided the group, I mean we know a few of the players were upset..... did the others call them out ??

 

[jenny61_99]

Cam's admission and him blaming the camp on the poor showing in 2017, makes it IMPOSSIBLE for Burton to survive. It was HIS camp. Not Pyke's. Not the 'Football Department'. It was his idea and his bunch of hacks.

He simply has to go.

If he survives this the club is done.

The camp was in 2018. So couldn’t have been the reason we sucked in 2017GF.

 

[Gets!]

At the Best and Fairest Otto said that “we need to get back to loving each other” so there is definitely something happening with the players and a divide. Sucks to see my club like this.

 

[hey shorty]

The camp was in 2018. So couldn’t have been the reason we sucked in 2017.

Which we didn't anyway, except that last day.

 

[Wouldbetackler]

The camp was in 2018. So couldn’t have been the reason we sucked in 2017.

Yeah we just choked in 2017

 

[Elite Crow]

The camp was in 2018. So couldn’t have been the reason we sucked in 2017.

Pretty sure he meant 2018

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Even the majority of Bulldogs supporters don’t see them getting Keath and Bruce, without losing their first.

Crows will give Keath and P28 for P13

Bulldogs will give P28 for Bruce, which Lethean alluded might be enough.

Crows give future 4th or late pick for Betts and Greenwood for 20.

Late pick for Betts or future 4th which will be used for Frampton

This leaves us with 4,13,20,23,48 and a futures depending on above scenarios.



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[jenny61_99]

Which we didn't anyway, except that last day.

I meant sucked in the GF.

 

[Elite Crow]

He said it divided the group, I mean we know a few of the players were upset..... did the others call them out ??

Who knows but wasn’t there some allegations that CM tried to have the players turn on each other?

 

[Elite Crow]

I meant sucked in the GF.

Might have been because we had the players meditating for 8 hours over two days leading into it so they wouldn’t be overwhelmed, whose idea was that?

 

[Peter Doherty]

This leaves us with 4,13,20,23,48 and a futures depending on above scenarios.



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If we can split the pick 4 we then have 5 picks inside 23.

 

[Cap]

I agree that hopefully Cams comments are or were the final nail in Burtons coffin. But he really didn't say much more than we already knew, the dodgy press conference told us as much.

If we look at the guys we are shunting out only Keath has not been asked about it.

Unless Betts and JJ decide to change or expand on their comments, I just can't see what more there is, that hasn't already been said.

 

[MRB37]

Alright then, Greenwood and 48 to GC for 20, 20 and Keath to WB for 13. Means we trade Keath and Greenwood for 13.

 

[Cap]

Who knows but wasn’t there some allegations that CM tried to have the players turn on each other?

Would the divide be those who liked it and those who didn't?

 

[headache1]

Dodoro reckons it's morally wrong for opposition clubs to approach players in the middle of a season.

Haha. The hypocrisy is stunning.

I'll bet Essendon's first contact with Shiel's camp was day one of trade week.

 

[Crowmurder]

All things being equal, he is. I don’t believe he was dropped due to his form. It was a very different message and a reason outside of football.

Had the camp not happened and if we were still a major contender, he would not have been dropped. I think he is a best 22 player for us every single day of the week.

He was definitely dropped due to his form. Was absolutely terrible this season and never got going. And that would be due to his around 2wks of pre-season he was able to do. Sadly with out a full pre-season (due to his b-ball background) he can’t keep up. When fit and firing best 22 all the way.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

If we can split the pick 4 we then have 5 picks inside 23.

Why do that?