Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 9 - The Shi'ites Hit The Fan (Cont. in Part 10, see OP)

[Maggie5]

border skirmish fool.

The putsch of ~4-5 years ago was a CIA putsch. You reckon the FSB and Cheka dont know this $hit.

Do tell, however rather live in the moment, thanks anyway.

no.

again, you misjudge.

Federal DC politics allowed this vacuum to exist*

*a zeno's paradox, ok, it aint a zeno's paradox

if the Dems did the job with the left and centre, and centre-left, then Trump would never had a ripe constituency for the taking. The problem since the Clintons and GlassStegel is the Dems have been content with courting the monied class, if that was the correct spelling.

my point was Trump never should have had have had a ripe base who were willing constituents should he?

answer: NO. to put it bluntly. That is the Dems and the log cabin republicans. lay the blame firmly at the square of feet of Clintons, Bubbashrimp & HormoneReplacementClinton

How long will you keep this blame game going? Bad case of CODS maybe?

 

[bourbons]

On the available evidence, Biden hasn’t really done anything wrong.

What is he supposed to have done?

Enacted official US foreign policy, as far as I can tell.

There is the question of what his son was doing on that board in the first place, but that wasn't what Trump was asking to be investigated on THE TRANSCRIPT that he insists we refer to.

 

[Maggie5]

I didn't know Woman's Day did political cartoons.

Progress

Maybe you will understand this one better?

 

[ChappyUK]

Just for one day, he is unable to think of others, people that have sacrificed for their country.

There are homeless Vets, Vets fighting depression and Gold Star families mourning their losses. The country is honouring military veterans ... and this is what Trump is tweeting about;

“Schiff is giving Republicans NO WITNESSES, NO LAWYER & NO DUE PROCESS! It is a totally one sided Witch Hunt. This can’t be making the Democrats look good. Such a farce!”

“The President has until September 30th to give this aid to Ukraine. He gets it out on September 11th., 3 weeks before the deadline. So, we give our ally aid, and Joe Biden is not investigated. Remember that, they get the aid and we get nothing in return. The Democrats....

He is the first President ever to attend the NY Veteran's March.

Amazing he can do this and still manage to tweet.

 

[blackcat]

If you want to be understood, maybe try communicating in a default that isn't pseudo intellectual w@nkery? Single font may also clarify the message.

Additionally, try staying on target - the topic was birtherism, now for some reason you're talking about Trump taking advantage of historical conditions and the general sh1tness of both political parties over a long period.

just an ad hom

raise ur game son

 

[blackcat]

How long will you keep this blame game going? Bad case of CODS maybe?

waiting for some FigBooty rigour brah

i cant breath

 

[Maggie5]

waiting for some FigBooty rigour brah

i cant breath

Try going outside and take deep breaths, might help.

 

[blackcat]

Try going outside and take deep breaths, might help.

i'm at the BLM and climate apocalypse demonstrations with meds.

#meds

medusala

 

[Maggie5]

i'm at the BLM and climate apocalypse demonstrations with meds.

#meds

medusala

Today is 12 November, 2019. Try and keep up won't you?

 

[bourbons]

just an ad hom

raise ur game son

See, that post I understood. Although I would argue my 2nd line addresses the substance of the argument, or where you took it.

Apologies, and good work.

 

[Mick F]

He is the first President ever to attend the NY Veteran's March.

Amazing he can do this and still manage to tweet.

Don’t you mean he once again missed the laying of the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington, which has been where Presidents have traditionally paid respect to Veterans.

At least this year he made a public appearance and acknowledged the day when the country honours its military veterans. Last year he stayed in the White House watching TV and resting up.

 

[Satan]

Don’t you mean he once again missed the laying of the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington, which has been where Presidents have traditionally paid respect to Veterans.

At least this year he made a public appearance and acknowledged the day when the country honours its military veterans. Last year he stayed in the White House watching TV and resting up.

Good excuse to go visit Trump tower and look at Barrons stash

 

[Balls In]

On the available evidence, Biden hasn’t really done anything wrong.

What is he supposed to have done?

Imagine if Tiffany Trump suddenly appeared on the board of a Ukranian power supply company? I'm sure the neverTrumpers would be ok with that. You would also have to imagine she was a broke cocaine fiend and that Trump threatened to withhold $1b in aid unless the Ukraine sacked its top prosecutor (who happened to be investigating the company Tiffany was involved) which they did. But yeah Trump had no business raising his eyebrows.. IMPEACH!!

 

[bourbons]

Imagine if Tiffany Trump suddenly appeared on the board of a Ukranian power supply company? I'm sure the neverTrumpers would be ok with that. You would also have to imagine she was a broke cocaine fiend and that Trump threatened to withhold $1b in aid unless the Ukraine sacked its top prosecutor (who happened to be investigating the company Tiffany was involved) which they did. But yeah Trump had no business raising his eyebrows.. IMPEACH!!

Unfortunately Biden Jnr's position isn't what Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate, READ THE TRANSCRIPT lol

The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it...

Biden's actions re: the withholding of aid was sanctioned US foreign policy.

 

[yebiga]

Enacted official US foreign policy, as far as I can tell.

There is the question of what his son was doing on that board in the first place, but that wasn't what Trump was asking to be investigated on THE TRANSCRIPT that he insists we refer to.

Biden Bragged that he extorted the removal of the Ukrainian Prosecutor - in 6 hours!
This same prosecutor was investigating Burisma - the company his son Hunter was paid $50K per month. The same company that paid another $100k a month to a related Hunter Biden entity.
This same prosecutor who had flagged his intention to interview Hunter.

He obtained this concession by pressuring the Ukrainian Government to not stamp out but facilitate corruption - and what's more, he then bragged about it to the whole world.

We know that the Ukraine was key in providing information to sully General Flynn and Paul Manaford - with the objective of wounding the Trump campaign.

Every accusation of Trump by the DNC is something the DNC is already completely guilty of committing. It's a pretty clever diversion that totally muddies the water. The closer Trump comes to revealing their real crimes the more they invent and exaggerate the exact same charges against Trump. It could hardly be any clearer.

 

[bourbons]

I seriously don't get why this is so hard to process.

Biden Bragged that he extorted the removal of the Ukrainian Prosecutor - in 6 hours!

Yes, he was comfortable bragging about it because in withholding the aid to get rid of the prosecutor, he was enacting official US foreign policy. Its legit mind blowing this is still brought up as an argument against him.

This same prosecutor was investigating Burisma - the company his son Hunter was paid $50K per month. The same company that paid another $100k a month to a related Hunter Biden entity.
This same prosecutor who had flagged his intention to interview Hunter.

The same prosecutor who had done nothing on the Burisma investigation for a number of years, had a widely known reputation for corruption himself, and that several other western governments and the IMF also wanted gone due to said reputation.

He obtained this concession by pressuring the Ukrainian Government to not stamp out but facilitate corruption - and what's more, he then bragged about it to the whole world.

We know that the Ukraine was key in providing information to sully General Flynn and Paul Manaford - with the objective of wounding the Trump campaign.

Could actually be argued the exact opposite is true - Biden's actions were designed to fight corruption by getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor. But that's neither here nor there in relation to the above facts and the legality of Biden's actions.

Every accusation of Trump by the DNC is something the DNC is already completely guilty of committing. It's a pretty clever diversion that totally muddies the water. The closer Trump comes to revealing their real crimes the more they invent and exaggerate the exact same charges against Trump. It could hardly be any clearer.

That wasn't true the first few times you said it and it still isn't true now. Whenever you're questioned on it you reference an example that isn't actually the same. Guess I'll just re-post what I said last time you wheeled this line out;

...
Nance's line was 'no impeachment' until the dirty pool Donnie had been attempting became patently obvious. Dems play dirty pool too of course, but they're generally experienced or cunning enough to pull up short of (for example) "if its what you say it is, I love it" or "please announce you are investigating the Bidens". Which is really the least surprising thing in the world - reality tv host not super clear on the rules around foreign policy machinations, who knew.
...

 

[Mick F]

I seriously don't get why this is so hard to process.



Yes, he was comfortable bragging about it because in withholding the aid to get rid of the prosecutor, he was enacting official US foreign policy. Its legit mind blowing this is still brought up as an argument against him.



The same prosecutor who had done nothing on the Burisma investigation for a number of years, had a widely known reputation for corruption himself, and that several other western governments and the IMF also wanted gone due to said reputation.



Could actually be argued the exact opposite is true - Biden's actions were designed to fight corruption by getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor. But that's neither here nor there in relation to the above facts and the legality of Biden's actions.



That wasn't true the first few times you said it and it still isn't true now. Whenever you're questioned on it you reference an example that isn't actually the same. Guess I'll just re-post what I said last time you wheeled this line out;

You are more patient than me.

This has been set out time and time again, rebutting the ‘village idiots’ reposting RWNJ posts. Hence why most of us have blocked them.

 

[Balls In]

Could actually be argued the exact opposite is true - Biden's actions were designed to fight corruption by getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor. But that's neither here nor there in relation to the above facts and the legality of Biden's actions.

Biden Jr's mere presence on the that board is just an extension of this!! He was plant put there to fix the Ukraine, fight evil, root out corruption and otherwise do his fathers saintly work. Deserved that s**t tonne of $ they happened to throw at him.

 

[yebiga]

I seriously don't get why this is so hard to process.



Yes, he was comfortable bragging about it because in withholding the aid to get rid of the prosecutor, he was enacting official US foreign policy. Its legit mind blowing this is still brought up as an argument against him.



The same prosecutor who had done nothing on the Burisma investigation for a number of years, had a widely known reputation for corruption himself, and that several other western governments and the IMF also wanted gone due to said reputation.



could actually be argued the exact opposite is true - Biden's actions were designed to fight corruption by getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor. But that's neither here nor there in relation to the above facts and the legality of Biden's actions.



That wasn't true the first few times you said it and it still isn't true now. Whenever you're questioned on it you reference an example that isn't actually the same. Guess I'll just re-post what I said last time you wheeled this line out;

Why did Biden not like this prosecutor so much that he needed him removed within 6 hours?
How implicated in domestic affairs must the Obama administration have been to pin point a singular individual and that this individuals' immediate removal was going to be so critical in stamping out corruption in the Ukraine. It really is staggering, the Ukraine corruption is a cultural thing and no single individual is going to change a culture.

Is it normal for the US to insist that a foreign public servant is removed? What was the urgency? Was it that the prosecutor was close to revealing damning information? Of course we can't take Victor Shorkins' claims seriously but nor can we dismiss the real possibility that this prosecutor was a thorn preventing the normal rampant economic exploitation of Ukraine. This type of exploitation the US has exercised across countless countries.

And whilst this prosecutor may have been thoroughly corrupt, there is also a strong possibility that whilst he turned a blind eye to other corrupt Ukrainians, he still possessed a modicum of patriotism and thwarted the exploitation of his country by foreign forces.

 

[bourbons]

Biden Jr's mere presence on the that board is just an extension of this!! He was plant put there to fix the Ukraine, fight evil, root out corruption and otherwise doing his fathers saintly work over there. He deserved that s**t tonne of $ for his trouble.

Doubtful. Seems like a pretty textbook case of nepotism and being employed purely on the basis of family name/connections.

Your issue in terms of argument is that has sweet FA to do with the legality of Biden Snr's actions in getting the prosecutor removed

 

[bourbons]

Why did Biden not like this prosecutor so much that he needed him removed within 6 hours?

Was on a plane out of Ukraine in 6 hours, its right there in Purple's video.

How implicated in domestic affairs must the Obama administration have been to pin point a singular individual and that this individuals' immediate removal was going to be so critical in stamping out corruption in the Ukraine. It really is staggering, the Ukraine corruption is a cultural thing and no single individual is going to change a culture.

Is it normal for the US to insist that a foreign public servant is removed? What was the urgency? Was it that the prosecutor was close to revealing damning information? Of course we can't take Victor Shorkins' claims seriously but nor can we dismiss the real possibility that this prosecutor was a thorn preventing the normal rampant economic exploitation of Ukraine. This type of exploitation the US has exercised across countless countries.

Not sure what the point is in continuing to pretend it was only the US who wanted the prosecutor gone, unless you're arguing in bad faith.

And whilst this prosecutor may have been thoroughly corrupt, there is also a strong possibility that whilst he turned a blind eye to other corrupt Ukrainians, he still possessed a modicum of patriotism and thwarted the exploitation of his country by foreign forces.

Sure, that's possible.

 

[darrenmorgan]

Imagine if Tiffany Trump suddenly appeared on the board of a Ukranian power supply company? I'm sure the neverTrumpers would be ok with that. You would also have to imagine she was a broke cocaine fiend and that Trump threatened to withhold $1b in aid unless the Ukraine sacked its top prosecutor (who happened to be investigating the company Tiffany was involved) which they did. But yeah Trump had no business raising his eyebrows.. IMPEACH!!

Or Jared and Ivanka suddenly became “Whitehouse Advisors” despite having sweet FA experience and/or intellect for the role?

 

[Satan]

Or Jared and Ivanka suddenly became “Whitehouse Advisors” despite having sweet FA experience and/or intellect for the role?

And fortunately receiving Trademarks from china in the middle of dads trade negotiations

Ivanka Trump’s Brand Received Five New Trademarks From China This Month

The trademarks raise concerns over conflicts of interest, as the U.S. is negotiating trade with China.

www.google.com.au

Conflict of interest? China approves 13 new Ivanka Trump trademarks

Ethics watchdogs have expressed concern as the US President Donald Trump’s daughter expands her business in foreign countries.

www.google.com.au

 

[Chief]

Or Jared and Ivanka suddenly became “Whitehouse Advisors” despite having sweet FA experience and/or intellect for the role?

Did you read Fear? Trump's campaign was stalled and rudderless, and Jared and Ivanka were on holiday on a yacht in Croatia with Wendy Deng.

Jared was supposed to be running the campaign office.

That's dedication.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Or Jared and Ivanka suddenly became “Whitehouse Advisors” despite having sweet FA experience and/or intellect for the role?

This must be wrong, because Ivanka was also worthy of being appointed Ambassador to the UN according to their God Emperor