Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 3

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[Bring-Back-Powell]

What happens if the virus spreads to Sydney given every man and his Victorian dog has fled to NSW?

The Sydney hub will be cancelled and surely it's season cancelled?

 

[footyfan1978]

What happens if the virus spreads to Sydney given every man and his Victorian dog has fled to NSW?

The Sydney hub will be cancelled and surely it's season cancelled?

If Sydney ever went into lockdown again, we still got NT, SA and WA that likely to be able to host a lot of games for rest of winter.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Won’t they have cops stopping that though?

Pretty easy place to quarantine .
People have been specifically told NOT to go to holiday homes though, so they are idiots.

I'm not expecting it to take off there though.
The demographic of those spreading it doesn't scream holiday home in Cowes to me .

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

It’s hilarious how people from other states bag “all Victorians” for being selfish diseases spreaders and then next minute... “but can we have your footy teams over here please”?

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Pretty easy place to quarantine .
People have been specifically told NOT to go to holiday homes though, so they are idiots.

I'm not expecting it to take off there though.
The demographic of those spreading it doesn't scream holiday home in Cowes to me .

True.
But I’d have thought there would be a checkpoint or is Phillip Island within the restriction border?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

It’s hilarious how people from other states bag “all Victorians” for being selfish diseases spreaders and then next minute... “but can we have your footy teams over here please”?

We don’t want them here, it’s money hungry VFL house that wants then here. A large majority yhink the season should be cancelled.

 

[footyfan1978]

I'm not expecting it to take off there though.
The demographic of those spreading it doesn't scream holiday home in Cowes to me .

Exactly!!!!

 

[Maylandsman]

It’s hilarious how people from other states bag “all Victorians” for being selfish diseases spreaders and then next minute... “but can we have your footy teams over here please”?

Wrong Rod.
Not that I’ve bagged vics, this will spread beyond Victoria and we are already seeing the potential.
Footballers flying around Australia...leave me out of that. A hard border should be just that. There will be tears.

 

[dont bowl there]

What happens if the virus spreads to Sydney given every man and his Victorian dog has fled to NSW?

The Sydney hub will be cancelled and surely it's season cancelled?

People are so quick to jump to season cancelled. Given Victoria is in a lockdown and the season is still full steam ahead I don’t think a NSW ban is going to suddenly stop it.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

True.
But I’d have thought there would be a checkpoint or is Phillip Island within the restriction border?

Should be, Cardinia Shire stops a bit past Lang Lang.

 

[Maylandsman]

The demographic of those spreading it doesn't scream holiday home in Cowes to me .

Early doors here in Perth it was the western suburbs (ritzy) who were brushing it off and going to the opera. Now we have lost the rich kids claiming the dole and job keeper - taking the mickey. I am pretty sure this doesn’t care about how much coin you have.

 

[StevoBruiser]

Why no Tassie AFL hub?

Two AFL venues.

Zero cases.

It was discussed but not worth the risk, players and families could potentially adapt too well over there and start inbreeding.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Early doors here in Perth it was the western suburbs (ritzy) who were brushing it off and going to the opera. Now we have lost the rich kids claiming the dole and job keeper - taking the mickey. I am pretty sure this doesn’t care about how much coin you have.

We also had people from Torquay way,(surf coast ) saying the town was incredibly busy recently. But they don't have it there.
Its not about coin, its about attitude.

 

[kranky al]

well according to Fauci it is equivalent to the flu, so ......

but i'm not surprised every post of yours must mention Trump, he must live in your head - rent free as they say

you should move on ... Trump is not in this country

Can you supply this quote from fauci.

 

[Maylandsman]

People are so quick to jump to season cancelled. Given Victoria is in a lockdown and the season is still full steam ahead I don’t think a NSW ban is going to suddenly stop it.

Give it time to spread some more. The AFL will get tired of musical chairs and quarantining.
The vic teams have been told they are in the hubs for 32 days max. I cannot see the Victorian issue resolving itself in 32 days. Let’s make a market of how many will cop it they have to stay longer, how many go home to vic and whether or not the AFL calls it over.

 

[Harris Specter]

Sad that we have NZ just 3 hours away who went into a hard lockdown and are now able to enjoy the economic benefits of all business opening, meanwhile we have an attitude of not caring in Australia and doing just enough.

 

[Maylandsman]

We also had people from Torquay way,(surf coast ) saying the town was incredibly busy recently. But they don't have it there.
Its not about coin, its about attitude.

Exactly. Attitude is everything - hence my ‘coin don’t matter’.

 

[Harris Specter]

Give it time to spread some more. The AFL will get tired of musical chairs and quarantining.
The vic teams have been told they are in the hubs for 32 days max. I cannot see the Victorian issue resolving itself in 32 days. Let’s make a market of how many will cop it they have to stay longer, how many go home to vic and whether or not the AFL calls it over.

They really won't. Gill has mentioned that they have several contingencies in place to ensure the season goes ahead. Players are welcome to go home to Vic and be home with mummy and their partners but they will have to wait for 2-3 weeks before they can play footy again due to quarantine restrictions.

 

[kranky al]

They really won't. Gill has mentioned that they have several contingencies in place to ensure the season goes ahead. Players are welcome to go home to Vic and be home with mummy and their partners but they will have to wait for 2-3 weeks before they can play footy again due to quarantine restrictions.

If vic players are up and leaving and missing multiple weeks of games (which noone should pot them for doing...)

the

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becomes an

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on season 2020

 

[Maylandsman]

Players are welcome to go home to Vic and be home with mummy and their partners but they will have to wait for 2-3 weeks before they can play footy again due to quarantine restrictions.

Don’t type with your dummy it makes you come across as immature.
You are raising the very scenario which can ruin the football season. Gilligan can have a truck load of contingencies which will amount to nothing without the players. Gilligan can have all the contingincies in place place but they will amount to nothing if states are in lockdown.
Do you understand?

 

[faible]

Do you really think a collective mass of people are intelligent enough to pull off such a vast conspiracy without anyone but you noticing? We can't even lock people in hotels properly mate, or obey basic rules.

Most CT's rely on such an unbelievable level of coordination by an inordinate amount of people that they'd never actually work. It's the suspension of belief that the Conspiracy Theorist is smart enough to see through the lies, whilst the majority are too stupid to do so, whilst also simultaneously having massive numbers of people being SO clever, and so devious, that they pull off these massive interconnected conspiracies.

not one life will be lost to covid, but we couldnt give a stuff about any others.

Lying, misunderstanding or misrepresenting today Les?

If Sydney ever went into lockdown again, we still got NT, SA and WA that likely to be able to host a lot of games for rest of winter.

Just move everyone to Amata, they've got a good oval and an airport.

A large majority yhink the season should be cancelled.

I'm sure over in WA they currently would love the season to be cancelled, can't imagine why

 

[footyfan1978]

Just move everyone to Amata, they've got a good oval and an airport.



I'm sure over in WA they currently would love the season to be cancelled, can't imagine why

ha ha
gold!

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Most CT's rely on such an unbelievable level of coordination by an inordinate amount of people that they'd never actually work. It's the suspension of belief that the Conspiracy Theorist is smart enough to see through the lies, whilst the majority are too stupid to do so, whilst also simultaneously having massive numbers of people being SO clever, and so devious, that they pull off these massive interconnected conspiracies.



Lying, misunderstanding or misrepresenting today Les?

Just move everyone to Amata, they've got a good oval and an airport.



I'm sure over in WA they currently would love the season to be cancelled, can't imagine why

I'm pretty confident the Eagles will make finals and be a big player so your point is moot. The season is a shambles ans should be cancelled, there is no certainty that season 2021 will be any different to this year either.

 

[No SPIN]

Do you know how to treat COVID-19?
Do you know whether exposure to COVID-19 gives effective immunity from future infection?
Do you know what the long term effects are for survivors of COVID-19?
Do you know how accurate testing is?

Unless the answer to all of these is 'yes' (especially the first one), COVID-19 is more dangerous to society in 2020 than the plague.

So by your convoluted logic every seasonal flu falls into this category because the Flu virus changes every year. Consequently the above questions are unanswered for every virus causing seasonal flu.
By extension and by your own logic every seasonal Flu is more dangerous than the plague - an extreme proposition I would have thought.

 

[Maylandsman]

Here’s another concern for the AFL...backlash. I wondered early how long before vics would see the double standard. I agree with the article 100%.

Players’ sunny escape highlights AFL elitism
Susie O'BrienHerald Sun
Tuesday, 7 July 2020 10:17AM

Most of us can’t fly anywhere, but AFL stars and club officials have packed their surfboards and golf clubs and winged their way to freedom. It’s an unfair and disgraceful situation, writes Susie O’Brien.
Except for AFL players, most of whom escaped our virus-ridden state over the weekend, headed for resorts on the Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast and New South Wales.
Players and club officials packed their surfboards and golf clubs, and flew off to spend five weeks in the sun training, playing and relaxing.
Most of us can’t fly anywhere, but players winged their way to freedom.
How can this be allowed? I’m a footy fan, but in the current climate it is unacceptable.
Non-AFL players can’t go to Queensland, NSW or any other state.
Some people in the north and western suburbs can’t go anywhere at all.
Those in high-rise commission towers can’t even leave their flats.
They’re are treated like prisoners and confined to their homes.
But AFL players are exempt from the strict lockdown rules that apply to everyone else.
The rest of us have lost the right to decide where we go and when, but they’re allowed to flee.
It’s an unfair and disgraceful situation.
Hawthorn’s Shaun Burgoyne takes a swim at Coogee in Sydney on Monday after their Sunday game against the Giants. Picture. Phil Hillyard Credit: News Corp AustraliaHawthorn players enjoying the Coogee sunshine on Monday. Credit: News Corp Australia, Phil HillyardBulldogs players leave Melbourne behind. Credit: News Corp Australia, Wayne Taylor
AFL players have always been judged on a different standard to others, but it’s now more stark than ever.
AFL players were even allowed to move out of lockdown suburbs so they could continue to play.
As people from suburbs such as Broadmeadows, Brunswick West and Keilor Downs were sent back to isolation, players were quickly moved out.
North Melbourne rushed to relocate 16 players and staff last Wednesday before the midnight deadline so they could travel to NSW if they needed to.
Non-AFL residents did not have this luxury, and were told they’d be fined $1600 if they left their homes for non-essential reasons.
Those from lockdown suburbs were told they’d be fined $11,000 for going to NSW.
Things are worse than they have ever been in this state.
AFL players off to play in sunny Queensland. Credit: AAP, Getty
As I write, the border with NSW and Victoria has just been closed for the first time in a century, two more people have died from the virus and we had 127 new cases on Sunday night.
There are now more than 650 active cases and more than 30 people in hospital.
Premier Daniel Andrews, under pressure for his mishandling of hotel quarantine security, is talking tough, telling each of us to “do the right thing”.
Meanwhile, elite footballers are living it up in luxury resorts.
We thought footy would make us feel better, but the special considerations and separate rules imposed on players and officials are making us feel worse.
All of these measures fuel the perception AFL players are above everyone else.
Making matters worse is the fact a number of AFL players have abused their privileged status.
The AFL set COVID-19 protocols requiring players to stay home and not mix with others, but a handful of them couldn’t stick to the rules.
Steele Sidebottom went to a mate’s house and got drunk. Credit: AAP
Essendon’s Conor McKenna visited his former host family.
Steele Sidebottom of Collingwood went to a mate’s house and got drunk, before being found wandering around half-naked in the street.
There’s also the Western Bulldogs’ Lachie Hunter who was charged with drink driving, careless driving and failing to give his name after a car accident in April.
And, of course, Collingwood’s Jordan De Goey, who has been charged by police with indecent assault dating back to 2015, which should be enough to see him sidelined.
And yet he is being told he can join the group after he’s tested negative for the virus twice.
More hypocrisy from the AFL, which is once again showing how worthless its Respect and Responsibility policy is.
The league sacked its own officials who cheated on their wives but they are overlooking this serious charge.
Yes, De Goey deserves the presumption of innocence, but out of respect for the process and the victim, he should be sidelined until the charges are dealt with.
To allow him to play is to undermine the seriousness of the charge.
As others have pointed out, the AFL needs a “no fault” rule like the NRL that stands down players facing charges involving violence against women until they are cleared or convicted.
Meanwhile, players heading in to the hubs want to be congratulated for the sacrifice they are making by heading interstate for at least a month.
Those of us stuck back here don’t feel like we’re the lucky ones.
It’s possible things will get a whole lot worse in Victoria before they get better.
But don’t stress, because the footballers are fine and the weather’s lovely up north.