Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 3

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 4

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[dont bowl there]

The source of transmission has changed. It isn't returned travellers, it is people in the community.

In terms of ability to reduce numbers quickly, I think our current situation is a much more difficult task.

You're right, we won't know for another 1-2 weeks, but I am not particularly optimistic we will see a dramatic drop, and my sense is it will take a herculean effort to even get numbers under 50 per day.

I hear what you are saying but if things aren’t trending down after 2-3 weeks and staying low for the following 3 of lockdown then we have no hope of keeping it down “in many months”. I still think these numbers can be managed with testing and lockdown restrictions.

 

[Cuzz09]

Is there a chance they'll call off the season?



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[dont bowl there]

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Haha obviously there is a chance. But that won’t happen in the next month with all teams in relatively COVID free states.

 

[FreeTK]

I hear what you are saying but if things aren’t trending down after 2-3 weeks and staying low for the following 3 of lockdown then we have no hope of keeping it down “in many months”. I still think these numbers can be managed with testing and lockdown restrictions.

I hope you're right, and while the cases seem large to us, they aren't that big when you compare it to other places around the world.

I might be a bit pessimistic about this, but I can't think of any city of country that has been able to quickly suppress numbers once we see the numbers in the community we are seeing in Melbourne.

I also think people are taking this lockdown far less seriously. In the first few days of lockdown, where I live in Cartlon was a ghost town. Going for a run this morning there was still many people out going about their business.

 

[Sterge]

But where the security guard cluster originated remained an unsolved mystery, until the Government revealed genetic research on the strains of coronavirus circulating in the community.

The state's Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton confirmed all of the strains were different from those found in the first wave: "There is no evidence of any original virus from February, March around currently," Professor Sutton said last Tuesday.

Which means it most likely came from overseas.

Basically confirming all the current cases can be linked back to the hotel ****ups

 

[Clems Knee]

There are dumb selfish people everywhere. The vast majority are doing the right thing but you will never have everyone doing the right thing on anything. This isn’t a Victorians are more selfish than others, do you think the people of WA took it more seriously than the people of Victoria?

I don’t know why you keep making this a parochial thing.
At the moment WA is fortunate that they don’t have any transmission.

But the behaviour of young people in WA is pretty much back to normal. If anything they are more intent on partying than they were before. In WA, that’s okay at the moment, but would quickly become disastrous if a few people came into the state with the virus.

I am guessing young people in Victoria behaved the same as Western Australians. The difference was that Victoria always had low levels of community transmission, so the numbers exploded. It is now incredibly important that people follow the guideline, even if they think they will personally not be affected too much if they get infected.

 

[dont bowl there]

I hope you're right, and while the cases seem large to us, they aren't that big when you compare it to other places around the world.

I might be a bit pessimistic about this, but I can't think of any city of country that has been able to quickly suppress numbers once we see the numbers in the community we are seeing in Melbourne.

I also think people are taking this lockdown far less seriously. In the first few days of lockdown, where I live in Cartlon was a ghost town. Going for a run this morning there was still many people out going about their business.

Probably an easier job given it’s one state under one state regulations rather than a country with different restrictions.
Let’s give it a few weeks before the doom and gloom. I went and got some food shopping done yesterday and wore a mask. It wasn’t 50% wearing them but given it was only hours after the notice there was a lot more using them. Masks will be compulsory in the next fortnight, it’s pretty obvious by the wording they are just giving people wanting to get masks/make one some warning.

 

[dont bowl there]

I don’t know why you keep making this a parochial thing.
At the moment WA is fortunate that they don’t have any transmission.

But the behaviour of young people in WA is pretty much back to normal. If anything they are more intent on partying than they were before. In WA, that’s okay at the moment, but would quickly become disastrous if a few people came into the state with the virus.

I am guessing young people in Victoria behaved the same as Western Australians. The difference was that Victoria always had low levels of community transmission, so the numbers exploded. It is now incredibly important that people follow the guideline, even if they think they will personally not be affected too much if they get infected.

Haha ok Clem. You are one of the biggest WA people are better cheerleaders on here.

 

[Clems Knee]

Haha ok Clem. You are one of the biggest WA people are better cheerleaders on here.

Well no. You just get very defensive and parochial all the time. I was pointing out the difference in community transmission and warning of the dangers of that, and you made that a state thing.

 

[Clems Knee]

I also think people are taking this lockdown far less seriously. In the first few days of lockdown, where I live in Cartlon was a ghost town. Going for a run this morning there was still many people out going about their business.

This is very concerning. Lockdown fatigue is clearly a real thing. But at least all young adults should wear masks if they go out, because they are more likely to be asymptomatic or presymptomatic spreaders.

 

[Senor M]

Victoria has had less overseas infections per head of population than any other state.
Victoria is the only state that has had more local transmissions than overseas.

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I agree with you on the data— there’s no debating that.

Not sure how you’ve read that data and made the assumption that Western Australia took more Victorians who were returning from overseas than than Victoria took Western Australian’s who returned from overseas....

 

[dont bowl there]

Well no. You just get very defensive and parochial all the time. I was pointing out the difference in community transmission and warning of the dangers of that, and you made that a state thing.

Haha you have been so vocal on WA being better and taking it more seriously. I get annoyed because you constantly suggest people in Victoria have brought this on themselves when the vast majority have done nothing different to the vast majority of WA/SA/QLD.

 

[Cuzz09]

Haha obviously there is a chance. But that won’t happen in the next month with all teams in relatively COVID free states.

Yeah I cant see it being called off.

England are playing EPL and have nearly 300k cases lol

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[dont bowl there]

Yeah I cant see it being called off.

England are playing EPL and have nearly 300k cases lol

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NBA is going into a state that is seeing record cases. Test cricket is being played. Pretty much all sport in the world is working a way to play through this. AFL has multiple places to play that are basically COVID free. If they stop it will be very odd.

 

[Asapartyhat]

Who was guarding the hotel where the guy kept doing a runner and using public transport?

That guy was Victorian ,,should have known better in hindsight I suppose .But even maximum security prisons have the occasional break out and that guy was very detemined to break out.Regardless it was inevitable that he would get caught given the number of cameras and inevitable he would get fined and jailed .

 

[The 747]

Whispers of bad numbers today Vic press conference

Did you get a kick out of posting that? Onya mate

 

[Clems Knee]

Haha you have been so vocal on WA being better and taking it more seriously. I get annoyed because you constantly suggest people in Victoria have brought this on themselves when the vast majority have done nothing different to the vast majority of WA/SA/QLD.

No. I didn’t. You showed an alarming inability to read what I wrote.
I have pointed out repeatedly that it’s down to the behaviour of the population that can suppress the transmission, not just the severity of the lockdown imposed by the state governments.

In Victoria’s case the lockdown was more severe, police were fining people at the beach, yet community transmission was still happening. Why is that? There are more extremist right wing crackpots in Victoria than anywhere else in Australia except Queensland. More whackos attacking Andrews and calling him chairman Dan, and therefore subverting his messaging.
More conspiracy theorists doing letter drops saying that this is just a flu, and that we should just carry on as normal.

Victoria has a good chance of stoppping this infection spike in its tracks. But if people ignore the guidance by their government, it will continue to rise next week.

 

[D-N-R]

People traveling home probably grabbed the first flight they could. We have had people from the Eastern States land in WA and vice versa.

Places like Sydney loved it when the majority of international travelers flocked to their city. Now being an international hub has become an inconvenience, it's the other states not pulling their weight.

How many direct OS flights would have landed in Adelaide pre-pandemic compared to Sydney and Melbourne? (and who would want to go there anyway? Amirite?)

The proportion of travelers arriving at various ports probably hasn't changed, but the benefit from it has.

 

[Senor M]

There are more extremist right wing crackpots in Victoria than anywhere else in Australia except Queensland. More whackos attacking Andrews and calling him chairman Dan, and therefore subverting his messaging.

More conspiracy theorists doing letter drops saying that this is just a flu, and that we should just carry on as normal

Just a reminder the biggest conspiracy theorist whacko that was repeatedly ranting that it was “just a flu” in this thread proudly claimed he was from Perth.

But keep up the parochialism & blame Victoria from a distance.

 

[dont bowl there]

No. I didn’t. You showed an alarming inability to read what I wrote.
I have pointed out repeatedly that it’s down to the behaviour of the population that can suppress the transmission, not just the severity of the lockdown imposed by the state governments.

In Victoria’s case the lockdown was more severe, police were fining people at the beach, yet community transmission was still happening. Why is that? There are more extremist right wing crackpots in Victoria than anywhere else in Australia except Queensland. More whackos attacking Andrews and calling him chairman Dan, and therefore subverting his messaging.
More conspiracy theorists doing letter drops saying that this is just a flu, and that we should just carry on as normal.

Victoria has a good chance of stoppping this infection spike in its tracks. But if people ignore the guidance by their government, it will continue to rise next week.

Yeah you did. Even Forward Press called you out on it a while back. That’s when you know it’s bad.

 

[dont bowl there]

Just a reminder the biggest conspiracy theorist whacko that was repeatedly ranting that it was “just a flu” in this thread proudly claimed he was from Perth.

But keep up the parochialism & blame Victoria from a distance.

You just can’t read what Clem wrote. Learn to read idiot.

 

[Senor M]

You just can’t read what Clem wrote. Learn to read idiot.

Learn to read Idiot?

What did I do to deserve that personal attack after you liked the same post?

 

[dont bowl there]

Learn to read Idiot?

What did I do to deserve that personal attack after you liked the same post?

Sorry it was a piss take on Clem. Everytime someone disagrees with him he claims they must have an inability to read.

 

[Clems Knee]

Just a reminder the biggest conspiracy theorist whacko that was repeatedly ranting that it was “just a flu” in this thread proudly claimed he was from Perth.

But keep up the parochialism & blame Victoria from a distance.

Les comes from WA, it’s true. The numbers of extremists came from an ASIS report.
I haven’t heard of letter drops anywhere else but Melbourne.
I haven’t seen as much hatred directed at any other premier as has been directed at Dan Andrews. That seems to have been primarily from Victorians.

Really, the major difference in outcomes (so far) has been that WA was fortunate enough to get rid of community transmission before opening up. Elimination works. Suppression doesn’t.

 

[Clems Knee]

Sorry it was a piss take on Clem. Everytime someone disagrees with him he claims they must have an inability to read.

Mostly you. You react emotionally and protectively to the perceived slight on your beloved state, even if that wasn’t written or intended.