Recruiting Trade & Free Agency VIII

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Spoiler: AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY KEY DATES 2020

Draft Combine
Tuesday October 1 - Friday October 4

AFL Grand Final
Saturday October 24

Free Agency Window
Friday October 30 – Friday November 6

AFL Trade Period (Players and picks)
Wednesday November 4 – 7.30pm Thursday November 12

List Lodgement 1
Wednesday November 25

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Thursday November 26 - Sunday November 29

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Monday November 30

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Monday November 30 - Tuesday December 1

AFL Trade Period (Picks only)
Concludes Thursday December 3

National Draft
7pm Wednesday December 9

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
12pm Thursday December 10

Final List Lodgement
Mid-December (tbc)

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
Wednesday January 6, 2021 – will conclude prior to the start of the 2021 Toyota AFL Premiership Season

Spoiler: DRAFT ORDER

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Draft discussion goes here: Draft Watch

Father/Son & NGA discussion goes here: James Hird Academy (Father/Son and Next Generation)

Poll results: Who should stay? | Which key forward do you want? | What would you give up to get Josh Dunkley

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Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

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[yodellinhank]

Hurley and Hooker are cooked Sturt/King got hold of Hurley this year

Runs on the board

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Not really. He's a good stopper.

Seems to lose his opponent easily and seems out of position a lot.

 

[eth-dog]

Seems to lose his opponent easily and seems out of position a lot.

He shouldn't be a #1 key defender but he's capable at shutting down the secondary key talls.

 

[andleanback]

O-mac is terrible would rather we find out about Bzt, even if a few opponents get hold of him.

 

[Ati Tude]

There is no way known we will pick up O-Mac. Not with Hooker, Hurley, Ambrose, Zerk and kids we have or might get in the draft. I'd rather be blooding kids to get games into them and throwing Zerk further in the deep end than do a stop gap like O-Mac. Wouldn't achieve anything.

 

[Dons4Life]

Surely the long term goal has to be to get a few tall kids to grow together ie/ bzt, brand, ried or Cox etc for the long term health of our key position stocks. They can learn the ropes the next few years whilst Hooker and Hurley and Ambrose are still there whilst allowing them to get their bodies AFL ready.

 

[Milanista28]

Is Omac even better than McBride?

 

[Snake Charmer]

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Not really. He's a good stopper.

one of your love child’s Eth. He’s no good, otherwise I’d reckon he’d still be in Melbourne’s list I look forward to you telling me why he’s so good

 

[Snake Charmer]

Better then Hooker/Hurley who are cooked, Ambrose is always injured, Francis/Ridley are better as third defender. Leaves Zerk Irish Brand as KPD

McDonald can at least shut down the best key forward

Lol this entire post is a laugh

 

[eth-dog]

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one of your love child’s Eth. He’s no good, otherwise I’d reckon he’d still be in Melbourne’s list I look forward to you telling me why he’s so good

Because I think he's a decent stopper? Christ, not everything's an agenda.

 

[Snake Charmer]

Because I think he's a decent stopper? Christ, not everything's an agenda.

No but you’re clearly bias towards a lot of average players and it shows. Why has he been delisted? Soft, plays from behind to often and can’t spoil to save him self. Has been pushed out by recruits and better younger up and comers. I often don’t like the argument of “well why has he been delisted then!?” But it’s kinda relevant here. He’s no good and no better than Zerk.

 

[eth-dog]

No but you’re clearly bias towards a lot of average players and it shows. Why has he been delisted? Soft, plays from behind to often and can’t spoil to save him self. Has been pushed out by recruits and better younger up and comers. I often don’t like the argument of “well why has he been delisted then!?” But it’s kinda relevant here. He’s no good and no better than Zerk.

Not really. He got delisted because they couldn't get his brother's salary off the books and Goodwin plays favourites, of which he isn't one. I really question how much you've seen him play to give you the impression that he's soft, but you stated your opinion and I respect that, but it's clear that you just want to throw cheap insults at me.

 

[Snake Charmer]

Not really. He got delisted because they couldn't get his brother's salary off the books and Goodwin plays favourites, of which he isn't one. I really question how much you've seen him play to give you the impression that he's soft, but you stated your opinion and I respect that, but it's clear that you just want to throw cheap insults at me.

Sorry about the insults if you took it that way. Not my intention to attack someone on the internet..

Regarding Omac tho, a 2 minute scan of the Melbourne also backs up what I said. He’s no good, I reckon Trengrove will be more likely to get a gig somewhere as a stop gap.

 

[Cup_o_Jobe]

Is there a realistic option to pay-out contracts and delist players? If so, given the leniency with pay-out costs this year and with list changes, there would be a good case to pay-out and turf Cutler (as well as delisting Townsend) to free up space some kids. No sense having them stuck on our reduced list just so they can spud it up in the magoos for a year.

 

[HirdyLannister]

We should of offically offered pick 7 and 8 for dunkley and ask for a future second in return. It would of been interesting and most likely the bulldogs would of knocked it back because of JUH but the media would of had a field day saying "knocked back 2 top 10 picks for 5th best mid at the club"

 

[BomberARMY]

Haha just saw that Carltank rookie listed Kennedy and their supporters were telling us it would be 27 & Kennedy for Saad... hahaha ******* gronks...

 

[BrunoV]

We should of offically offered pick 7 and 8 for dunkley and ask for a future second in return. It would of been interesting and most likely the bulldogs would of knocked it back because of JUH but the media would of had a field day saying "knocked back 2 top 10 picks for 5th best mid at the club"

Dunkley is not their 5th best midfielder. He the one who is unlucky enough to be versatile and below the other guy who is versatile (i.e. Bont).

He was probably their best performed mid in 2019 before being shuffled around and some injury troubles in 2020.

If I was ranking the Dogs best mids, being the guys who I think play the best football, it would start with Bont and then Dunkley. Smith is still a boy but it's only a matter of time before he's the one pressing the top 2. Macrae is up there on the weight of numbers but he's not a style of player I love. Libba is probably 5th as the clearance specialist.

 

[Milanista28]

Haha just saw that Carltank rookie listed Kennedy and their supporters were telling us it would be 27 & Kennedy for Saad... hahaha ******* gronks...

To re rookie him does that mean he's been delisted? Can we get him anyway?

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Dunkley is not their 5th best midfielder. He the one who is unlucky enough to be versatile and below the other guy who is versatile (i.e. Bont).

He was probably their best performed mid in 2019 before being shuffled around and some injury troubles in 2020.

If I was ranking the Dogs best mids, being the guys who I think play the best football, it would start with Bont and then Dunkley. Smith is still a boy but it's only a matter of time before he's the one pressing the top 2. Macrae is up there on the weight of numbers but he's not a style of player I love. Libba is probably 5th as the clearance specialist.

There is best midfielder in stats and best in value to the team. No one performed close to as statistically well as he did last year but the team functioned a lot better without him in the guts. Can't put a price on ability to use the ball spreading from the stoppage.

 

[ILikeCheese]

To re rookie him does that mean he's been delisted? Can we get him anyway?

That’s a good point

 

[BrunoV]

There is best midfielder in stats and best in value to the team. No one performed close to as statistically well as he did last year but the team functioned a lot better without him in the guts. Can't put a price on ability to use the ball spreading from the stoppage.

Dogs seemed to be pretty good in the second half of 2019. I don't see much difference between their 2019 and 2020.

 

[citizen-erased]

Townsend & Crauford delisted
Gleeson & Clarke similar with intent to rookie them.

Makes for an interesting draft strategy

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Dogs seemed to be pretty good in the second half of 2019. I don't see much difference between their 2019 and 2020.

I think they were a much better team this year because they did it without Naughton firing a shot. Last year he was carrying their entire forward line.

 

[Fin ice Smuggler]

Townsend & Crauford delisted
Gleeson & Clarke similar with intent to rookie them.

Makes for an interesting draft strategy

strange, why wouldnt we wait til after the draft to delist townsend and Crauford? I think it shows hand we are definitely drafting a key forward like Mcdonald or Thilthorpe.

 

[BomberARMY]

To re rookie him does that mean he's been delisted? Can we get him anyway?

I think it's possible for us to do, although it's not the 'done thing'... but * Carlton..
(I think the Saints did it with Abbott?)