Recruiting Trade & Free Agency VIII

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Spoiler: AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY KEY DATES 2020

Draft Combine
Tuesday October 1 - Friday October 4

AFL Grand Final
Saturday October 24

Free Agency Window
Friday October 30 – Friday November 6

AFL Trade Period (Players and picks)
Wednesday November 4 – 7.30pm Thursday November 12

List Lodgement 1
Wednesday November 25

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Thursday November 26 - Sunday November 29

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Monday November 30

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Monday November 30 - Tuesday December 1

AFL Trade Period (Picks only)
Concludes Thursday December 3

National Draft
7pm Wednesday December 9

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
12pm Thursday December 10

Final List Lodgement
Mid-December (tbc)

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
Wednesday January 6, 2021 – will conclude prior to the start of the 2021 Toyota AFL Premiership Season

Spoiler: DRAFT ORDER

Any issues with it post in this thread:

Draft discussion goes here: Draft Watch

Father/Son & NGA discussion goes here: James Hird Academy (Father/Son and Next Generation)

Poll results: Who should stay? | Which key forward do you want? | What would you give up to get Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

?

 

[yodellinhank]

Which is why it was suggested, but according to the article clubs felt they could get by without it and it would be unfair since they didn't know it was a possibility at 7.29pm on Thursday when they all took unders or coughed up overs in desperation

That's just poor list management. Justin is a bad list manager. The best remained staunch do-do-do do-do-doro

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Mcdonald might be great, but as I've posted before, KPFs are the hardest position to project from the draft to the AFL. I'd understand why, but I hope we don't do anything silly to trade up for him. We have plenty of areas to fix.

KPFs are essentially our (AFL's) version of quarterbacks in a draft sense. Teams are obsessed with taking them early, even if the hit-rate is much lower than it should be.

Really, unless someone excellent falls in our lap, I'm ok for now with the talls we have, Wright coming in, as well as Ayre on the horizon.

In a goal sense, the gap between small forwards and KPFs seems smaller than it used to be. If the best KPFs are scoring 2 goals/game, you have to question the value we put upon them when small and general forwards can be found in greater supply, more cheaply, and can put up 1-2 goals/game themselves, whilst also being involved in general play and setting up others.

Targetting capable smalls/general forwards and getting a KPF who can take a mark, crash a park, and keep their opponent from intercepting all day is probably as valuable at the moment as anything else. We can't expect too much out of them, but there's no reason to think Wright, Stewart, Hooker, aren't capable of this kind of stuff. I think the question is whether we can find the Papleys, Fantasias, Ryans and Butlers.

 

[BomberARMY]

I feel like Dunkley and Pickering could've played harder than they did. One thing to nominate, but needed him to put more pressure on the Dogs.. time to move on though, one we should have got, but didn't..

Annoys me that Dogs supporters would've been claiming we overpaid if we'd have coughed up 2 1sts, but now we "didn't do enough".. damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess...

 

[EnolaGay]

Call yourself something that references Will Snelling

11

Will Snelling

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

4.7

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

4.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

D

12.6

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

8.3

4star

M

1.3

1star

T

5.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

D

16.2

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

11.0

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.8

5star

G

1.2

4star

or Dylan Clarke

37

Dylan Clarke

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

6.1

2star

HB

8.8

5star

M

1.9

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

6.6

5star

CL

3.4

5star

then.

Dill Snarke

 

[Ati Tude]

I think they should have had it. Not to know the list sizes or cap but to expect to finalise plans for the draft seems absolutely crazy. I suppose you can still trade excess picks, though you'd probably get bugger all for them.

Apparently, there was a vote and 17 clubs voted against a further trade period and 1 voted for it.*




* this may have been made up

 

[nonamehack]

How do you change your name???

Just start a new one. You have 8 posts.

 

[nonamehack]

So thoughts on rookie listing Cam McCarthy. Obviously a little bit of a head unit but showed at GWS what he could do. Averages nearly 1.5 goals/game. To me other than the ruck option he shows more than 2MP.

If he can be straighten up I don't see why he couldn't be a 30+ goal a season player (2019 kicked 19 in 12 games). If he's not its back to WA. But he's in our age bracket 23 (and other than mental I assume his body should be pretty good after only being lightly used 69 games) I think and on Etihad under the roof I think his game style excels. He'd also fit in as the 3rd tall after 2MP and Stewart. Also would mean that Stringer could continue his midfield transition.

It also could mean that if Stringer doesn't work out with greater midfield time thay Stewart could swing into Defence to see if he has the poise down there as his more mature body helps cover Hooker/Hurley if the newer recruits need more time developing.

Burn away

 

[Megabattimus]

So thoughts on rookie listing Cam McCarthy. Obviously a little bit of a head unit but showed at GWS what he could do. Averages nearly 1.5 goals/game. To me other than the ruck option he shows more than 2MP.

If he can be straighten up I don't see why he couldn't be a 30+ goal a season player (2019 kicked 19 in 12 games). If he's not its back to WA. But he's in our age bracket 23 (and other than mental I assume his body should be pretty good after only being lightly used 69 games) I think and on Etihad under the roof I think his game style excels. He'd also fit in as the 3rd tall after 2MP and Stewart. Also would mean that Stringer could continue his midfield transition.

It also could mean that if Stringer doesn't work out with greater midfield time thay Stewart could swing into Defence to see if he has the poise down there as his more mature body helps cover Hooker/Hurley if the newer recruits need more time developing.

Burn away

I dunno if he'd want to play AFL again tbh.

 

[ant555]

To be fair Patton wasn’t a busy because of talent, 3 acls killed him. In 2017 he dominated and then did his knee again. Scully was the best winger in the game in ‘16 and ‘17 until he ruined in ankle at the start of 18 and hasn’t been the same since.

All part of the risk. Francis struggles with mental health and soft tissue issues.
You can get the selection right and still lose.

 

[ant555]

Point is it's hard to get them via FA or trade as well, Imagine trying to convince Ben or Max King

12

Max King

Age

23

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

to come to us.

There have been a few come via later picks.

 

[EnolaGay]

So thoughts on rookie listing Cam McCarthy. Obviously a little bit of a head unit but showed at GWS what he could do. Averages nearly 1.5 goals/game. To me other than the ruck option he shows more than 2MP.

If he can be straighten up I don't see why he couldn't be a 30+ goal a season player (2019 kicked 19 in 12 games). If he's not its back to WA. But he's in our age bracket 23 (and other than mental I assume his body should be pretty good after only being lightly used 69 games) I think and on Etihad under the roof I think his game style excels. He'd also fit in as the 3rd tall after 2MP and Stewart. Also would mean that Stringer could continue his midfield transition.

It also could mean that if Stringer doesn't work out with greater midfield time thay Stewart could swing into Defence to see if he has the poise down there as his more mature body helps cover Hooker/Hurley if the newer recruits need more time developing.

Burn away

I think his AFL days are long over


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[11kgm]

Oscar McDonald

21

Oscar Mcdonald

Age

28

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

for free yes please

 

[Hird05]

Not sure if this has already been discussed but who can we still cut this year?

 

[11kgm]

Not sure if this has already been discussed but who can we still cut this year?

Townsend Phillips?

 

[Megabattimus]

Townsend Phillips?

Townsend's on the rookie list, so cutting him won't free up a list spot for the National Draft.

 

[11kgm]

Townsend's on the rookie list, so cutting him won't free up a list spot for the National Draft.

Cut mozzie to rookie list?

 

[Megabattimus]

Cut mozzie to rookie list?

Yeah that seems likely. Make him a rookie and then move him to the inactive list before the season starts.

 

[11kgm]

Yeah that seems likely. Make him a rookie and then move him to the inactive list before the season starts.

See how he tackles his rehabilitation some have said he has been a bit lazy so could be the wat

 

[Duckworth]

Cut mozzie to rookie list?

He's injured all year, he can go on the LTI.

 

[Snake Charmer]

Oscar McDonald

21

Oscar Mcdonald

Age

28

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

for free yes please

He’s crap

 

[eth-dog]

He’s crap

Not really. He's a good stopper.

 

[11kgm]

He’s crap

Better then Hooker/Hurley who are cooked, Ambrose is always injured, Francis/Ridley are better as third defender. Leaves Zerk Irish Brand as KPD

McDonald can at least shut down the best key forward

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Better then Hooker/Hurley who are cooked, Ambrose is always injured, Francis/Ridley are better as third defender. Leaves Zerk Irish Brand as KPD

McDonald can at least shut down the best key forward

Better than Hurley and Hooker? Ridiculous

 

[11kgm]

Better than Hurley and Hooker? Ridiculous

Hurley and Hooker are cooked Sturt/King got hold of Hurley this year

 

[citizen-erased]

Omac isn't the worst option as an interim FB stopper whilst the kids develop.
Really comes down to how much faith we have in Hurley & Ambrose's bodies

And whether Hooker plays much defence