Growth of AFL in Rugby League Heartland

[bunsen burner]

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No man ,Rugby League has won hands down ,they can't stop talking about our GREAT GAME on this forum.They start up a thread about RL every 3 weeks.Closet RL fans me thinks.

This sort of false bravado isn't going to change the truth.

 

[akazie]

Believe what you want mate. AFL must be great cause every country in the world wants to play it. No other sport has this passion. Thats why in every country it's played in, it's become the dominate code in no time.

BTW, have you ever checked out the English Super League (Pommie Rugby League). Same as the soccer they love to sing through the games, and pack out their relatively small stadiums most matches. Is that the passion you are talking about?

He's a know all, know nothing, that sums him up.

 

[bunsen burner]

I disagree.

As an example, I play cricket. Sydney born and bred players treat it as a pastime. If a party or something comes up, they will call in unavailable for selection - even for a semi !!!

The guys from Melbourne, England, India or NSW Country will never miss a game - will play Saturday and Sunday if they can and the club needs them.

There just seems to be less of a passion, at least amongst the people I mix with (albeit they are all north shore/northern beaches/eastern suburbs types - I don't think I know any one from the west or south west)

This is just bull****. Maybe in your circle of friends but I play indoor cricket in Sydney. Most of the guys I play with are hard core cricket nuts. They don't miss an indoor or outdoor game for almost anything.

There is pretty much no difference in sport interest between Sydney and the southern/western states. Except for footy.

 

[Spewing]

Yeah, watch it boys I recommend it

Capacity crowd, 23,000 I think

Only 27 handling errors up to the 50th minute mark

Greatest game in the world

I will be watching it again

You're a funny man GMAN!!!!

 

[bunsen burner]

I will. I heard you guys will get to the first game of the NRL season beamed live into Melbourne. Enjoy some real footy for a change.

I live in Sydney champ.

 

[TigerCraig]

This is just bull****. Maybe in your circle of friends but I play indoor cricket in Sydney. Most of the guys I play with are hard core cricket nuts. They don't miss an indoor or outdoor game for almost anything.

There is pretty much no difference in sport interest between Sydney and the southern/western states. Except for footy.

Fair enough - but it's just something I've noticed (in a 7 team club). Talking to other club committee men, they have the same issue. Some of our English players have mentioned it too. Just my experience.

My kids junior sport (including Aussie Rules) is the same - parents will let kids miss games to take them away on holidays and stuff. Never happened when I played junior sport in Melbourne or Newcastle. When I question the parents the reaction is - "its just sport"

 

[mustapha]

RL people say it's because Sydney people are different. It's not a very plausible argument. We are all Australians. It's too convenient that people in one city aren't passionate about footy for no other reason that they live in a different city.

It is because these cities follow different codes. One code invokes more interest and passion than the other.

I will raise the point about the A league again. Why have Melbourne crowds in their championship year (this year) been so much bigger than Sydney crowds in their championship year (last year)? At the start of this season Victory drew 39,000 to a game against Sydney (after a pathetic season last year). Why have crowds in Sydney not come close to this?

It is probably the clearest example of different attendance habits between cities given that the league is only two years old and free of factors like the superleague war etc.

 

[cos789]

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AFL must be great cause every country in the world wants to play it. No other sport has this passion. Thats why in every country it's played in, it's become the dominate code in no time.

Well now that you can use technology instead of empires to gain influence around the world , the development of Australian football Leagues around the world has gained momentum to the extent that we have the International Cup , international junior games and many international Competitions too numerous to mention .

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[Spewing]

The next one that mentions anything about Rugby League , is is a closet fan! and loves the nature of the true Gladiator sport called RL.

Lets see how many!

 

[bunsen burner]

AFL must be great cause every country in the world wants to play it.

They already have soccer. There is no changing that. It's set.

Dues to geographical isolation AFL never had the chance to compete so we'll never know. Rugby (the game league evolved from) did. And it lost out badly. That and the fact that league is not the number 1 sport in any sizeable country strongly suggests it's a second tier code.

No other sport has this passion. Thats why in every country it's played in, it's become the dominate code in no time.

Now you're being silly and making stuff up. Soccer and NFL clearly have passion. So does AFL. League lacks it.

For the 10th time: please explain why Southern Australian cities, Euro cites, US cities have a buzz about footy whilst Sydney and Brisbane don't?

And don't come back with this "but they do" bollocks. Most league supporters are happy to admit Sydney doesn't have the same footy buzz as melbourne.

BTW, have you ever checked out the English Super League (Pommie Rugby League).

Yep. Lived in Manchester. It's sh it. A minority sport. Like really really minor. I'm sure their small amount of followers are passionate about it but no one gives a toss about it. I lived there for three years and only met a handful of people into it (and I met 1000s of people). They are soccer mad.

Same as the soccer they love to sing through the games, and pack out their relatively small stadiums most matches. Is that the passion you are talking about?

Nope. Close but not quite. We're not talking about the core followers here. RL's core followers are just as passinate as AFLs core followers. We're talking about across the board.

 

[akazie]

Well now that you can use technology instead of empires to gain influence around the world , the development of Australian football Leagues around the world has gained momentum to the extent that we have the International Cup , international junior games and many international Competitions too numerous to mention .

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hahahahahahaha sure you do.

 

[bunsen burner]

I will raise the point about the A league again. Why have Melbourne crowds in their championship year (this year) been so much bigger than Sydney crowds in their championship year (last year)? At the start of this season Victory drew 39,000 to a game against Sydney (after a pathetic season last year). Why have crowds in Sydney not come close to this?

It is probably the clearest example of different attendance habits between cities given that the league is only two years old and free of factors like the superleague war etc.

Adelaide United don't draw those crowds either. Now compare Sydney to Adelaide. Why are their sports attendence stats similar in everything else but AFL/NRL?

 

[Dan26]

RL people say it's because Sydney people are different. It's not a very plausible argument. We are all Australians. It's too convenient that people in one city aren't passionate about footy for no other reason that they live in a different city.

It is because these cities follow different codes. One code invokes more interest and passion than the other.

One again, 100% correct.

We are all human beings. We are all pretty much the same, we all have the same capacity to enjoy things. Why would people who live 900kms away be soooooooo different in following sport? That doesn't make any sense.

The ONLY difference is that they have been brought up, culturlly following a particular code of football (RL) while Melb, Adel, Perth have been brought up with another (Aussie Rules)

The code they have been brought up (RL) with generates smaller crowds, and less interest than the equivalent code (AR) in Melb, Adel, Perth because it's not as good.

I said it earlier IF Sydney had always been an Aussie Rules city and they had 10 teams they would be avergaing 35,000 per game as per the Aussie Rules standard.

It's all about the code - Aussie Rules generates more passion and interest.

As for the Leaguie who after admitting this, then started the typical silly argument of "why isn't it played outside Australia", have a guess....

It's not hard.

All parts of the world are culturally attached to the form of football they grew up with. The sports that were invented in England (whether it be Soccer, Union, Golf, Tennis, whatever) could spread. Why? Because Engand ruled the world and carried a great deal of influence.

What influence did Australia have 150 years ago? In addition to having a relatively small population, we are tucked away a long way away from everyone else. It is virtually impossible for anything "Australian" to take over 150 years ago. How could it? What influence did Australia have? What real influence do we have now on world trends? Not much.

If the game we NOW KNOW as Aussie Rules was invented in England in 1840 instead of Australia and it was called "English Rules" then it would spread (in some capacity). Like everything did back then.

 

[cos789]

sure you do.

The development of Australian football Leagues around the world has gained momentum to the extent that we have the International Cup , international junior games and many international Competitions too numerous to mention .
Basically in only 15 years .

Yes , we've all seen the photo of the NZ Falcons .
They played against Australian teams in the Australian Country Football Championships last year in QLD .

Hopefully they will return to their oriiginal strip of black with gold fern .

 

[akazie]

One again, 100% correct.

We are all human beings. We are all pretty much the same, we all have the same capacity to enjoy things. Why would people who live 900kms away be soooooooo different in following sport? That doesn't make any sense.

The ONLY difference is that they have been brought up, culturlly following a particular code of football (RL) while Melb, Adel, Perth have been brought up with another (Aussie Rules)

The code they have been brought up (RL) with generates smaller crowds, and less interest than the equivalent code (AR) in Melb, Adel, Perth because it's not as good.

I said it earlier IF Sydney had always been an Aussie Rules city and they had 10 teams they would be avergaing 35,000 per game as per the Aussie Rules standard.

It's all about the code - Aussie Rules generates more passion and interest.

As for the Leaguie who after admitting this, then started the typical silly argument of "why isn't it played outside Australia", have a guess....

It's not hard.

All parts of the world are culturally attached to the form of football they grew up with. The sports that were invented in England (whether it be Soccer, Union, Golf, Tennis, whatever) could spread. Why? Because Engand ruled the world and carried a great deal of influence.

What influence did Australia have 150 years ago? In addition to having a relatively small population, we are tucked away a long way away from everyone else. It is virtually impossible for anything "Australian" to take over 150 years ago. How could it? What influence did Australia have? What real influence do we have now on world trends? Not much.

If the game we NOW KNOW as Aussie Rules was invented in England in 1840 instead of Australia and it was called "English Rules" then it would spread (in some capacity). Like everything did back then.

It's from England you drop kick, they abandoned the game 150 years ago because it was cr@p

 

[Dogs Of War]

Adelaide United don't draw those crowds either. Now compare Sydney to Adelaide. Why are their sports attendence stats similar in everything else but AFL/NRL?

How many people live in Adelaide, and how many in Sydney. Now your comparing apples and oranges. But I forget. You don't like facts, you believe in the "Passion".

Your one of those people who camped outside the theatre when Mel Gibson released "The Passion of Christ" claiming it heresy, noone has more passion than AFL supporters

 

[Gman]

You're a funny man GMAN!!!!

Gotta support the code

 

[cos789]

Yes , we've all seen the photo of the NZ Falcons .
They played against Australian teams in the Australian Country Football Championships last year in QLD .

Hopefully they will return to their oriiginal strip of black with gold fern .
I really like the photo as would all supporters of Australian Football .

It must have taken your fancy , so can we guess that finally you see something positive in Australian Football .

 

[akazie]

Yes , we've all seen the photo of the NZ Falcons .
They played against Australian teams in the Australian Country Football Championships last year in QLD .

Hopefully they will return to their oriiginal strip of black with gold fern .
I really like the photo as would all supporters of Australian Football .

It must have taken your fancy , so can we guess that finally you see something positive in Australian Football .

hahahaha

LMAO, are you serious?

It's the funniest pic I've ever seen.

 

[mustapha]

Adelaide United don't draw those crowds either. Now compare Sydney to Adelaide. Why are their sports attendence stats similar in everything else but AFL/NRL?

There are a couple of differences. The main one is that Adelaide play in a much smaller stadium. A 15,000 crowd is a sell out (similar to the situation with Victory at olympic park last year). The second is that Sydney is a much bigger city than Adelaide.

 

[bunsen burner]

How many people live in Adelaide, and how many in Sydney. Now your comparing apples and oranges.

Typical Sydney RL supporter who won't acknowledge Perth and Adelaide as it exposes the gaping whole in their argument.

2 major cities. Both have similar sports following habits in a range of sports. When it comes to footy, Adelaidians love their footy, Sydneysiders don't.

Pretty simple eh?

 

[Gman]

Gotta support the code

Which code you talking about??

 

[Dan26]

It's from England you drop kick, they abandoned the game 150 years ago because it was cr@p

I think you better read what I said again, and brush up on your history.

Aussie Rules was invented IN Australia. Australia has no real international influence (in terms of population and/or geography) and hence it is virtually impossible for anythign invented here to "take over" other areas where sports are cultually entrenched.

If the game we call Aussie Rules was NOT invented here and was invented IN England, by English people LIVING IN ENGLAND, then the game would obviously spread (in some capacity anyway)

Given that you're an Aussie, what do you have against AR anyway?

 

[bunsen burner]

There are a couple of differences. The main one is that Adelaide play in a much smaller stadium. A 15,000 crowd is a sell out (similar to the situation with Victory at olympic park last year). The second is that Sydney is a much bigger city than Adelaide.

How does this make a difference? Please explain because you're clutching at straws.

 

[Dogs Of War]

How does this make a difference? Please explain because you're clutching at straws.

Cause these are facts. But once again, because they dont suit your viewpoint, you want to ignore them.

I can feel my "passion" levels rising.