Opinion Season on the line this week against Collingwood

[javaguice]

Not saying we will lose, just feel that if we do I can't see us making top 4. If we do lose do you think we are capable of making top 4 - i.e. do what we did in 2015 after losing to the dockers?

Nah if we lose we are in despair

We need top 2 to win it... let's be honest

 

[The Passenger]

We smashed the team that for 24 weeks had been on top of the ladder 13 days ago.

No doubt our best is as good as any in the competition.

How do we close the gap between our best and worst?

 

[Ochre]

Sure, not saying our best isn't good. Not saying we can't or won't win this game. Just asking if we lose this, given our record in Geelong and our away form so far this year, do you see us making top 4?

I sure as hell wouldn't rule it out. We're 5 weeks in.

 

[truman]

I sure as hell wouldn't rule it out. We're 5 weeks in.

Unfortunately not as optimistic as you but sure hope you're right, hoping the Willie factor can give us a spark in the back end of the season.

 

[Ochre]

Home and away games appear to be different beasts

Which is true for literally every team in every sporting competition in the world.

No doubt our best is as good as any in the competition.

How do we close the gap between our best and worst?

Richmond lost two games by 60+ in 2017, 4 by 40+ in 2019, and were 1-1-2 last year including being 63-14 down to an awful Hawthorn team. They're probably asking the same question.

 

[Ochre]

Unfortunately not as optimistic as you but sure hope you're right, hoping the Willie factor can give us a spark in the back end of the season.

It's never as bad as it seems and it's never as good as it seems. Last week was truly, truly awful but it was also one game. Dogs at Marvel is a really tough game this year and we still almost beat them, and we've won the other two. We've got issues but we're not North.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Do you find that moderating is making you cynical?

I think it’s genetic.

We didn’t win the flag in Round 5, 2018 when we beat Carlton by 10 points. Carlton didn’t win the wooden spoon that day either. Those things came later.

Richmond were 5-4 in 2017. 4-3 in 2019.
Hawks were 2-2, 3-3 and 4-4 in 2015.

People need to grow a pair and ride the ups and downs, instead of wanting to skip to the end (but only if their team was the winner).

I hope we show well tomorrow night. I hope we win by 100+. If we win by a point it won’t close the door on anything. If we lose by a point, it won’t close the door on anything. It’ll be Round 6 and we’ll move on.

 

[javaguice]

I think it’s genetic.

We didn’t win the flag in Round 5, 2018 when we beat Carlton by 10 points. Carlton didn’t win the wooden spoon that day either. Those things came later.

Richmond were 5-4 in 2017. 4-3 in 2019.
Hawks were 2-2, 3-3 and 4-4 in 2015.

People need to grow a pair and ride the ups and downs, instead of wanting to skip to the end (but only if their team was the winner).

I hope we show well tomorrow night. I hope we win by 100+. If we win by a point it won’t close the door on anything. If we lose by a point, it won’t close the door on anything. It’ll be Round 6 and we’ll move on.

High expectations round here I guess.... this ain't the Cockburn board lol.

Ps delegate more work to Biggie, that blokes slack AF

 

[Quinz]

The games that will define our season won't be the ones we should win, you'll always drop a few of them a season.

It'll be the ones we aren't expected to win that we need to snag a few to counterbalance those.

 

[Tugga27]

Nah if we lose we are in despair

We need top 2 to win it... let's be honest

If we can't win it from outside the top 2, we might as well shut up shop.

Finish in the top 4, get the double chance and hopefully win the first final.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Sure, not saying our best isn't good. Not saying we can't or won't win this game. Just asking if we lose this, given our record in Geelong and our away form so far this year, do you see us making top 4?

Assuming we lose both (and it makes sense that if we lose tomorrow we’d lose at the Cattery), then we’re 2-4.

Would I bet my life on us making top four? Absolutely not. Would it be the biggest surprise in Eagles history? Surely not.

Nine more games at Optus says we’re a chance at 11-4/10-5. Can we scalp four or five away wins from Giants, Carlton, Adelaide, Sydney, Collingwood, Brisbane? Tough certainly, but not impossible.

If we win tomorrow that margin shrinks a little. If we win tomorrow and then beat the Cats, we won’t have won the flag either, it just gives us a bit more wiggle room.

There’s a lot of water to go under the bridge yet.

 

[javaguice]

If we can't win it from outside the top 2, we might as well shut up shop.

Finish in the top 4, get the double chance and hopefully win the first final.

2005, 2006, 2015, 2018.... all top 2.

If we want to make a grannie, top 2 is our best bet. That's all I'm saying bruv

 

[ep2018]

Hope like hell that Carlton win the spoon this year..... Eagles making the grand final and the blues winning the spoon has coincided in 2005, 2006, 2015 and 2018.

 

[Ochre]

2005, 2006, 2015, 2018.... all top 2.

If we want to make a grannie, top 2 is our best bet. That's all I'm saying bruv

Losing the first final in 06 proves top 2 isn't essential. We can make it from 3rd or 4th easily.

 

[truman]

Assuming we lose both (and it makes sense that if we lose tomorrow we’d lose at the Cattery), then we’re 2-4.

Would I bet my life on us making top four? Absolutely not. Would it be the biggest surprise in Eagles history? Surely not.

Nine more games at Optus says we’re a chance at 11-4/10-5. Can we scalp four or five away wins from Giants, Carlton, Adelaide, Sydney, Collingwood, Brisbane? Tough certainly, but not impossible.

If we win tomorrow that margin shrinks a little. If we win tomorrow and then beat the Cats, we won’t have won the flag either, it just gives us a bit more wiggle room.

There’s a lot of water to go under the bridge yet.

I hear what you are saying but it would have to be a 2015 esque effort given our injuries.

 

[javaguice]

17 or 18 wins will get you top 2. If we go 2-4 that's a mighty stretch.

Not impossible from outside top 2 but I'm just going with history here. Our best teams couldn't win it from outside top 2...

 

[ep2018]

Losing the first final in 06 proves top 2 isn't essential. We can make it from 3rd or 4th easily.

As long as we play an equally injury ravaged and out of form team as Adelaide were in 2006 then I'd agree. Otherwise, we're a top 2 or out in prelim type of team.

 

[javaguice]

Losing the first final in 06 proves top 2 isn't essential. We can make it from 3rd or 4th easily.

We would need to draw Port. Any other game is going test the boys.

I mean, I'd love to be proven wrong.

 

[javaguice]

Hope like hell that Carlton win the spoon this year..... Eagles making the grand final and the blues winning the spoon has coincided in 2005, 2006, 2015 and 2018.

Fuxk. There go our chances.... its norths to lose

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

2005, 2006, 2015, 2018.... all top 2.

If we want to make a grannie, top 2 is our best bet. That's all I'm saying bruv

That's been true throughout our history. 1991, 1994 as well. The only outlier is 1992... but the finals system of the day gave us a massive leg up.

Interesting that we rarely finish 3rd or 4th. Think our only 3rd was 1990 (much tougher back then, zero home finals) and 4th was 92 and 96 (both different finals systems, benefited in 92 and got screwed by MCG contract in 96) and then 2011, when we were a mixture of 06 era veterans and the new generation that went onto the 2018 era and coming off a spoon year. We've never really had a proper crack from 3rd or 4th on its current day merits other than being the new kid in 2011 against some amazing teams, so how can we judge it with this crop? I think we base it on us traveling so much, we think we need 2 home finals to really be a chance.

Saying top 2 is our best bet is kind of a given. It's every team's best bet.

 

[Tugga27]

2005, 2006, 2015, 2018.... all top 2.

If we want to make a grannie, top 2 is our best bet. That's all I'm saying bruv

I know top 2 is ideal, but finishing in the top 2 every year is impossible.

We just need to make top 4 to have a real crack.
Top 2 would be great but it's not going to happen.

That's why it's so hard for interstate clubs to win it.
You can be a Melbourne club, finish 4th and end up with a home final.

It's no coincidence that the Hawthorne and Richmond GF wins were mainly against interstate clubs on their home deck.

 

[ep2018]

That's why it's so hard for interstate clubs to win it.
You can be a Melbourne club, finish 4th and end up with a home final.

You could be a 7th placed Bulldogs team and play a semi final and grand final in Melbourne, that's how much of a leg up the Vic teams get.

 

[javaguice]

Losing the first final in 06 proves top 2 isn't essential. We can make it from 3rd or 4th easily.

The 06 team was a different beast. They could have won it from 8th....

 

[ep2018]

The 06 team was a different beast. They could have won it from 8th....

Nah no non Vic team will win the flag outside the top 4 in this comp.

 

[javaguice]

Nah no non Vic team will win the flag outside the top 4 in this comp.

I was being overly dramatic. Great team

Get ready for someone to mention Adelaide