List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

24

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

26

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

32

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

33

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

35

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Verdun]

Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

for Jaeger ?

 

[triggering bro]

Hunter Clark for Jaeger ?

We would need to throw in Battle & Long & they would need to throw in Ceglar

 

[stfan]

Just on Xerri. Everyone is assuming that he will cost us, but maybe he will not?

​

Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2022​

So who knows, with North looking to bring in C-J and with Goldstein, Campbell and Edwards already onboad, Xerri could be a salary dump and could join us with an exchange of picks in our favour. North may see him as not required, and instead of paying out his contract we take him off their hands.

With any luck this could even possibly gain some more points for our NGA. ie swapping 40 and Xerri for 49 and we take his contract.

 

[snails13]

Richo still loves Spook,he is off to Melbourne.
Tom Browne says

 

[Groater]

They seemingly also want first rounders in return.

Their only hope is either Richmond or Port, and they pay some of the salary in exchange for a better pick.

You must be joking. No one is giving that for what will be 29 year old stat padder or a 28 year old with a dicky knee.

 

[lewdogs]

He might very well be a very good player , at 22 most tall's don't get there act together till later.
Picking him up spells the end for P.Hunter at the Saints.
Hopefully he has been getting trained up by Goldy.

I don't know anything about Xerri, never seen him play, but when a 21 year old ruckman gets 36 possessions (30 contested), 9 marks and 27 hitouts in a VFL game it certainly peeks my interest.

I guess the worry is that if North are willing to trade him how good is he? But let's not forget we traded a very good ruckman not too long ago - another player that dominated at VFL level.

I'm not concerned at all with his AFL performances this year considering he's clearly a no.1 ruck and would have been playing forward due to Goldstein. If he could develop into a good AFL ruckman then it fits perfectly with Roma.

If we do land him it will be interesting to see what we have to pay. If it's next to nothing then the trade is a no-brainer.

 

[gringo2011]

Richo still loves Spook,he is off to Melbourne.
Tom Browne says

That would be one huge kick in the balls if he wins a premiership before the Saints.

 

[Groater]

That would be one huge kick in the balls if he wins a premiership before the Saints.

Wouldn't top Luke Ball

 

[EconomicDecline]

This trade period so far

 

[Grav]

Here’s a little glimpse of our future, Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

28

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

& Max Heath, with the Xerri on top. (I’ll see myself out)

 

[BrutThough]

You must be joking. No one is giving that for what will be 29 year old stat padder or a 28 year old with a dicky knee.

For a team in the window, Mitchell would be worth a pick in the teens. Still a very good player.

But no one is crazy enough to pay that for O'meara

 

[Verdun]

According to the Media the Hawks are willing to trade Mitchell or JOM - no one would want there salary on there cap.

Hunter Clark for Jaeger ?

Bots - it was a joke!

Have a look at the trade for Jaeger....Saints did wlll out of it.!!

 

[Dr Spaceman]

We would need to throw in Battle & Long & they would need to throw in Ceglar

 

[sunny3193]

I can't work out what we're doing with talls.

What’s the story with North and ruckmen?
Are they breeding them at Arden Street?
Preuss had to leave because of Goldy.
They recruit a replacement and he has to leave because of Goldy.
And the other two that they have recruited in the meantime are still waiting because of Goldy.
It’s like us with HBF (Richo era) and tall forwards (Ratts).
Maybe that’s the cunning plan.
18 clubs, 18 playing positions: each club gets to waste resources on a favoured position that they turn into gold, or brass, every other season?

 

[kick it lace out]

Assuming we’re not really going to add a lot to our list in terms of trades, season 2022 is going to be make or break for Brett Ratten

Brett Ratten

Age

52

Ht

184cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

. He’s been given everything that he has asked for with regards to trading in ready made players, so if we fail to climb back into the top 8 next year, it might be time to say thank you and good luck. Seems like a nice bloke, but middle of the road finishes just don’t cut it.

 

[Sippa]

Trading day on fox they were just describing us as being in no mans land. Saying that we had a crack at a flag with mature picks .. it didn’t work so now we’ve flipped our strategy and want to draft .. we don’t know what way we wanna go etc

They are idiots ... We need to balance our age profile out so absolutely need a strong draft hand ... how is it any different to port 3 in 20 and Essendon 3 in 10... they weren’t rebuilding ffs

 

[gringo2011]

For a team in the window, Mitchell would be worth a pick in the teens. Still a very good player.

But no one is crazy enough to pay that for O'meara

He's still a gun though and only 27. The injury history is the only issue. Both would be good if you were in challenge mode and had cash and cap space.

 

[gringo2011]

What’s the story with North and ruckmen?
Are they breeding them at Arden Street?
Preuss had to leave because of Goldy.
They recruit a replacement and he has to leave because of Goldy.
And the other two that they have recruited in the meantime are still waiting because of Goldy.
It’s like us with HBF (Richo era) and tall forwards (Ratts).
Maybe that’s the cunning plan.
18 clubs, 18 playing positions: each club gets to waste resources on a favoured position that they turn into gold, or brass, every other season?

I'm surprised that Pruess has never made it as a first picked ruck. He was looking like a star potential ruck early on.

 

[KingsRansom]

Trading day on fox they were just describing us as being in no mans land. Saying that we had a crack at a flag with mature picks .. it didn’t work so now we’ve flipped our strategy and want to draft .. we don’t know what way we wanna go etc

They are idiots ... We need to balance our age profile out so absolutely need a strong draft hand ... how is it any different to port 3 in 20 and Essendon 3 in 10... they weren’t rebuilding ffs

I seen that, absolutely slaughtered us. But that's just rubbish journalism without looking at the big picture.

 

[Ray of Sunshine]

He's not "OK" at VFL level though. He absolutely dominated that level this year.

Dominated? He played in a team that ended up with the lowest percentage on the VFL ladder. North VFL team won 4 games out of 10 - Xerri only played in one of those wins - they seemed to do better without him. His stats were impressive in one game against 3rd from the bottom Essendon in a league of 22 teams.

I am hoping that this is not another dud move in the sad history of St Kilda list management. Judge this move by the level of interest shown in him by other clubs.

 

[bird_man]

Trading day on fox they were just describing us as being in no mans land. Saying that we had a crack at a flag with mature picks .. it didn’t work so now we’ve flipped our strategy and want to draft .. we don’t know what way we wanna go etc

They are idiots ... We need to balance our age profile out so absolutely need a strong draft hand ... how is it any different to port 3 in 20 and Essendon 3 in 10... they weren’t rebuilding ffs

Not sure what the other option is...

You can't trade in players every year. You have to have years where you got the draft.

Port did exactly the same thing, as did Melbourne after trading in players for a few years.

 

[Veer Right]

Can someone post this article here or send it via pm?

Demons looking at axed Saint Dunstan

Premiers Melbourne are looking at handing an AFL career lifeline to ex-St Kilda midfielder Luke Dunstan.

www.theage.com.au

 

[bird_man]

Dominated? He played in a team that ended up with the lowest percentage on the VFL ladder. North VFL team won 4 games out of 10 - Xerri only played in one of those wins - they seemed to do better without him. His stats were impressive in one game against 3rd from the bottom Essendon in a league of 22 teams.

I am hoping that this is not another dud move in the sad history of St Kilda list management. Judge this move by the level of interest shown in him by other clubs.

Are you suggesting a better ruckmen would have them winning more games?

Think you are asking a lot from one footballer...

 

[schmuttt]

That would be one huge kick in the balls if he wins a premiership before the Saints.

If he is getting a game for us Gringo we won't be playing in the grand final.

 

[SaintJunior]

Xerri averaged 10 more possessions and 3 more marks a game at VFL level but 6 less hit outs than Jordan Sweet . So Sweets output we similar to Hunters .

One couldn’t get a game behind a legitimate a grade ruck in Goldstein the other couldn’t get a game behind a team who are considered crap in the ruck.

If we need a back up ruck I know which way I would go.