Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 4 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Northernsoul74]

McEvoy and Sicily for Bailey Smith.
Gives us a 2-3 year flag window with Big Boy covering the ruck. And yes, clearly Bailey Smith is a up and coming superstar. That’s why the deal would work.

 

[doggies ftw]

If English is to go then we will probably need Ladhams. Would we settle for Ladhams, 2022 picks, and points for Darcy?

Something like: English, pick 45, pick 52, 2022 3rd rounder for Pick 19, Pick 22, 2022 2nd rounder

Then Pick 19 for Ladhams and 2022 3rd rounder.

That would give us:
* Points for a Darcy bid at 2 using only 3 list spots.
* A plug in replacement for English
* A really strong 2022 draft hand with an extra 2nd round pick.

Ugh that’s shocking

 

[doggies ftw]

McEvoy and Sicily for Bailey Smith.
Gives us a 2-3 year flag window with Big Boy covering the ruck. And yes, clearly Bailey Smith is a up and coming superstar. That’s why the deal would work.

Oh that’s much worse

 

[footscray1973]

I'm disappointed at the overall lack of melting given the possible English departure. However given the way the AFL landscape has been trending in recent years, I guess we've all become more pragmatic, and possibly immune, to the idea of losing, if not a top liner, at least one seen as a key player movind forward. Coupled with the travails all have endured to varying degrees over past 18 months, I for one, am relatively reconciled with what happened on 25th September, and barring any other surprise rumours, if English leaves, well life goes on, doesn't it? Hopefully we just get to see some damn live footy next season, and support whoever actually runs out in RWB.

Hope you're all safe and well, for some reason I'm feeling a bit down today, and posting on here at times is almost therapeutic. So far, today is one of those days.

Go Dogs.

 

[Golden_6]

Signing for Freo for 5 years is career suicide. Literally spending the peak of your career in the wilderness.

Not that I think English is leaving but why is that career suicide? He gets a massive secure 5 year contract to move home and be closer to his partner in the short term.

Is he further away from a flag at Freo? Absolutely but one could argue that given Freo have a dominant number 1 ruckman and that he’ll be able to play in his ideal role, he may flourish as a player. He might be further away from team success but as an individual player it’s not a bad situation at all.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Has the scorched earth, year zero coaching and trade strategy that Hawthorn seem to be employing ever actually worked in an AFL context?

Carlton are the club that immediately come to mind who tried it and they are still struggling to get out from under this tragic part of their history.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

McEvoy and Sicily for Bailey Smith.
Gives us a 2-3 year flag window with Big Boy covering the ruck. And yes, clearly Bailey Smith is a up and coming superstar. That’s why the deal would work.

Id want a better ruck option and a player not coming back from an ACL if I was giving up a generational player like Smith.

Neither McEvoy or Sicily would guarantee us a flag.

 

[cecil]

Ugh that’s shocking

You think English is worth more?

 

[Mofra]

Has the scorched earth, year zero coaching and trade strategy that Hawthorn seem to be employing ever actually worked in an AFL context?

Carlton are the club that immediately come to mind who tried it and they are still struggling to get out from under this tragic part of their history.

Melbourne about 12-15 years ago?
Losing Joel McDonald set them back 5+ years at least

 

[Del203211]

If anyone hates afl trade radio but wants good trade chatter - I know he usually sucks but Edmunds chats with Gary and Tim in the morning are pretty good and Riley Beveridge with Whately also good. Mitch clearys interviews are good too.

 

[Del165892]

McEvoy and Sicily for Bailey Smith.
Gives us a 2-3 year flag window with Big Boy covering the ruck. And yes, clearly Bailey Smith is a up and coming superstar. That’s why the deal would work.

Nah. I like the idea but McEvoy's age of 32 makes that trade clear unders for us. If it was a 28-year-old McEvoy then it would be an interesting proposition.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Hypothetical.
Tim English for NicNat?

 

[Del203211]

Hypothetical.
Tim English for NicNat?

I would in a heartbeat if Bruce wasn’t injured.

 

[Del165892]

I am a HUGE fan of English and it'd be a disaster to lose him BUT with WA' strict border rules and English coming out of contract next year it might be worth spitballing now.

If we could wrangle a high pick and Meek, depending on what Power could do with the pick, I'd consider it.

Trading Tim English for someone named Meek would be peak irony.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Melbourne about 12-15 years ago?
Losing Joel McDonald set them back 5+ years at least

If that is the best example then Im not sure that its great template for Hawthorn to follow.

Most of the clubs that have had success prior to Melbourne this year have done it on the back of the draft and trading in role fillers.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I'm disappointed at the overall lack of melting given the possible English departure. However given the way the AFL landscape has been trending in recent years, I guess we've all become more pragmatic, and possibly immune, to the idea of losing, if not a top liner, at least one seen as a key player movind forward. Coupled with the travails all have endured to varying degrees over past 18 months, I for one, am relatively reconciled with what happened on 25th September, and barring any other surprise rumours, if English leaves, well life goes on, doesn't it? Hopefully we just get to see some damn live footy next season, and support whoever actually runs out in RWB.

Hope you're all safe and well, for some reason I'm feeling a bit down today, and posting on here at times is almost therapeutic. So far, today is one of those days.

Go Dogs.

Chin up, we will be top four next year, with a team of angry players.

 

[glenashley]

The borders aren't going to be closed for much longer.

I actually think WA will be worse next year in that the rest of the country will open up but they'll start to get outbreaks and lockdowns. Just my 2 cents.

 

[TommyD13]

Trent Dumont

43

Trent Dumont

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

10.5

4star

HB

9.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

2.6

4star

D

20.1

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

9.7

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

2.4

4star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.6

1star

T

4.4

5star

CL

2.6

5star

as depth? Free swing...

 

[Del203211]

Trent Dumont as depth? Free swing...

ew ew ew ew ew

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Trent Dumont as depth? Free swing...

I'd say he'd be behind our already growing list of midfielders, plus Garcia and West.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

To save me scanning 50 pages back, can someone fill me in on the latest with English?

Is he open to trade back to Perth?

 

[Bald]

To save me scanning 50 pages back, can someone fill me in on the latest with English?

Is he open to trade back to Perth?

No word from the English camp. Fremantle have suggested if they trade Lobb they may be looking for a replacement.

That's it.

 

[Dog 36]

No word from the English camp. Fremantle have suggested if they trade Lobb they may be looking for a replacement.

That's it.

And some believe Freo have a contract for English already

 

[Norm De Guerre]

To save me scanning 50 pages back, can someone fill me in on the latest with English?

Is he open to trade back to Perth?

Its rumoured that he has a standing 5 year offer from Freo.

Bigfooty be like...

 

[Mojorisin]

Anyone above the age of 26 are on the table at the hawks

Perhaps we have another crack at Ben McEvoy

According to cornes.. We know how accurate he is. I doubt they'd entertain trades for Sicily like he is suggesting. McEvoy a big chance though.