Strategy 2021 Draft and Hypothetical pick trade proposals

[Strapping Young Lad]

Lol seriously can we just have a ban on posting things ol clickbait Kornes says…

none of it is interesting and it’s all designed to just stir people up.

Hodgey wants a new rule! Hodgey gets a new rule.

No more clickbait shit from Cornes in here.


Also:

Can we also threadban Rendell quotes. The bloke is senile.

Done

 

[becalm]

We don't have problems with cap space. That was clearly Collingwood's problem and they were forced to tip out Treloar, Stephenson and Bosenavulagi. We haven't traded at all. How can we possibly be a laughing stock?

Well at least Collingwood had a reason for what they did. They were laughed at because they got themselves into that situation.

 

[westhawk]

He seriously said that what an absolute knob

Sure did

 

[ralphwiggum]

Yes yes we can

How awesome are those "Wolfie! Wolfie!" chants going to be after Chad's goals next year

Or not

 

[Ballsontheline]

Is Rendell the bloke that sounds like he rips through 15 darts an hour?

 

[westhawk]

So Wingard, who is committed to playing for the mighty Hawks, means we should play him for Box Hill LOL

IT was the worst comment I have heard, just had to switch off after it.

 

[westhawk]

LOL

Pretty sure Rendell suffering from CTE.

 

[hawkmang]

We had someone like that by the name of Pittonet. Problem was he had small hands.

Underrated post

 

[Dewnior]

How would we rate our trade period of the only changes were:

- lose TOB for nothing
- turn Ceglar into Lynch


Not through lack of trying, but I'd deem that as a fail

Can you imagine if at the end of the trade period our list is worse and we haven't garnered any decent additional picks!? Oh boy wowee...

 

[MrPremiership]

Nice of Rendell to say he would cut some slack to Mitch Georgiadis for not laying 1 tackle in the prelim.


I mean, Georgiadis didn't play in the prelim....but kind of Rendell all the same





Seriously, how does this guy get air time? Not only are his opinions bad, but what is worse is that he is obviously ill prepared and does no research

 

[Hawks851]

How awesome are those "Wolfie! Wolfie!" chants going to be after Chad's goals next year

Or not

Wolffffieeeeee

 

[HedgeFund]

Can you imagine if at the end of the trade period our list is worse and we haven't garnered any decent additional picks!? Oh boy wowee...

Our list isn’t worse for O’Brien dropping off it. Opens up space for another youngster on less money who could become a genuine best 22 regular.

 

[Blackhawk42]

I wonder what the bookies were paying for this Hawthorn trade period to net 0 players in and 0 pick swaps? Of all years too, when I think a lot of us were anticipating a pretty serious list overhaul.

I know things could still happen but they could easily play out like the Wingard saga today too.


PS. I'm aware we can still do pick swaps after trade week ends.

 

[Bardo State]

You think we have no good young players and Wingard Mitchell and O’Meara aren’t worth first round picks
We did draw with the Premiers and beat the Runners Up comfortably

Also managed to lose to the entire bottom 10 except for Collingwood.

Adelaide and Collingwood beat Melbourne this year.

Can't get sucked in by good patches or games. Every team has them, including bad teams. The results over 3 seasons speak for themselves.

 

[blackheart]

"8 year rebuild."

What bullshit.

The media aren't even that disrespectful to a basketcase like Gold Coast.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Sammy had seen enough of Cegs and he wants to wipe the plate clean - love his work. Sammy and MM doing their best to clean up the mess left by Clarkson and GW. Appreciate and love Clarko for everything he has done but he set us back years by going top up in 2016. Cost us dearly …

Which we would have been negligent not to pursue at the time given the list profile, what we were shooting for, and the free agents we thought we’d get. Cmon man, we all backed it, the club backed it and it didn’t work. No need for this revisionism.

 

[Big Hotdog]

No mention of the premiership list built at StKilda by Pelchen

 

[Hawk Dork]

Our list isn’t worse for O’Brien dropping off it. Opens up space for another youngster on less money who could become a genuine best 22 regular.

TOB was great depth
Gives room for Callow and Jeka to step in,,,,up

 

[Spitting_Cobra]

David King was pretty spot on excluding the 8 year rebuild article heading


“Sam Mitchell should be able to walk into this football club and say look, I want to purge some of these players, let’s see if we can get X, Y and Z. Hopefully you get some picks in the 20s and can start the rebuild instantly. But because we allow the players to hold full control, this list is on hold.

“It’ll be a five or six-year rebuild because of the way we design this, and I don’t even know if it suits the player.

“I don’t know if it’s great for Gunston to finish this way, or Tom Mitchell to go through four years of what, just playing good footy that has no consequence, when they’ve got more to offer?”

King argued the players themselves would be better off accepting trades to try and win a premiership, knowing that shapes as very unlikely at Hawthorn in the coming years, and that going hard this year would be better for the Hawks, too.


“What are you about (as a club)? You’re about winning premierships,” he said.

“The club’s there to set up to win the next flag; you’re not gonna get anything for these guys if you fire sale them like that, probably, but the clubs have to have control.

“This is the old argument about whether you’re able to trade players in contract, and if you are, what does it do? I’ll tell you what it does; it brings an eight-year rebuild back to about four if you get it right.”

Not sure what's actually wrong with anything said

 

[hawkmang]

"8 year rebuild."

What bullshit.

The media aren't even that disrespectful to a basketcase like Gold Coast.

gold coast can’t rebuild, they never built anything in the first place

 

[Turly]

I wonder what the bookies were paying for this Hawthorn trade period to net 0 players in and 0 pick swaps? Of all years too, when I think a lot of us were anticipating a pretty serious list overhaul.

I know things could still happen but they could easily play out like the Wingard saga today too.


PS. I'm aware we can still do pick swaps after trade week ends.

 

[cryptor]

How about instead of lamenting the fact that our older players with the most currency don't want to leave we look at the bright side...

Our older players who have no guarantee they'll be around for our next premiership are genuinely excited for the new direction of the club and want to stick around despite having the opportunity to leave.

That speaks volumes to the energy and culture of the group we have. I'd hate to see the club undermine that by trying to push quality players who have already bought into what is being built.

 

[Alsmypal]

David King was pretty spot on excluding the 8 year rebuild article heading


“Sam Mitchell should be able to walk into this football club and say look, I want to purge some of these players, let’s see if we can get X, Y and Z. Hopefully you get some picks in the 20s and can start the rebuild instantly. But because we allow the players to hold full control, this list is on hold.

“It’ll be a five or six-year rebuild because of the way we design this, and I don’t even know if it suits the player.

“I don’t know if it’s great for Gunston to finish this way, or Tom Mitchell to go through four years of what, just playing good footy that has no consequence, when they’ve got more to offer?”

King argued the players themselves would be better off accepting trades to try and win a premiership, knowing that shapes as very unlikely at Hawthorn in the coming years, and that going hard this year would be better for the Hawks, too.


“What are you about (as a club)? You’re about winning premierships,” he said.

“The club’s there to set up to win the next flag; you’re not gonna get anything for these guys if you fire sale them like that, probably, but the clubs have to have control.

“This is the old argument about whether you’re able to trade players in contract, and if you are, what does it do? I’ll tell you what it does; it brings an eight-year rebuild back to about four if you get it right.”

Not sure what's actually wrong with anything said

The rebuild needs fast tracking with a Tassie team likely in the next few years, Gold Coast still not improving to the extent the AFL want, Sydney’s academy etc etc
This could well and truly blow out to 8 years if we don’t get in some elite young talent in the next few years.

 

[Rushed_Behind]

David King was pretty spot on excluding the 8 year rebuild article heading


“Sam Mitchell should be able to walk into this football club and say look, I want to purge some of these players, let’s see if we can get X, Y and Z. Hopefully you get some picks in the 20s and can start the rebuild instantly. But because we allow the players to hold full control, this list is on hold.

“It’ll be a five or six-year rebuild because of the way we design this, and I don’t even know if it suits the player.

“I don’t know if it’s great for Gunston to finish this way, or Tom Mitchell to go through four years of what, just playing good footy that has no consequence, when they’ve got more to offer?”

King argued the players themselves would be better off accepting trades to try and win a premiership, knowing that shapes as very unlikely at Hawthorn in the coming years, and that going hard this year would be better for the Hawks, too.


“What are you about (as a club)? You’re about winning premierships,” he said.

“The club’s there to set up to win the next flag; you’re not gonna get anything for these guys if you fire sale them like that, probably, but the clubs have to have control.

“This is the old argument about whether you’re able to trade players in contract, and if you are, what does it do? I’ll tell you what it does; it brings an eight-year rebuild back to about four if you get it right.”

Not sure what's actually wrong with anything said

Pretty good for kingy I agree.

 

[killerspud]

David King was pretty spot on excluding the 8 year rebuild article heading


“Sam Mitchell should be able to walk into this football club and say look, I want to purge some of these players, let’s see if we can get X, Y and Z. Hopefully you get some picks in the 20s and can start the rebuild instantly. But because we allow the players to hold full control, this list is on hold.

“It’ll be a five or six-year rebuild because of the way we design this, and I don’t even know if it suits the player.

“I don’t know if it’s great for Gunston to finish this way, or Tom Mitchell to go through four years of what, just playing good footy that has no consequence, when they’ve got more to offer?”

King argued the players themselves would be better off accepting trades to try and win a premiership, knowing that shapes as very unlikely at Hawthorn in the coming years, and that going hard this year would be better for the Hawks, too.


“What are you about (as a club)? You’re about winning premierships,” he said.

“The club’s there to set up to win the next flag; you’re not gonna get anything for these guys if you fire sale them like that, probably, but the clubs have to have control.

“This is the old argument about whether you’re able to trade players in contract, and if you are, what does it do? I’ll tell you what it does; it brings an eight-year rebuild back to about four if you get it right.”

Not sure what's actually wrong with anything said

Great now you are quoting David King and like him you really know you stuff -

he's got such an amazing track record on all things to do with football and his eyes are perfectly placed on his head.

 

[Spitting_Cobra]

Great now you are quoting David King and like him you really know you stuff -

he's got such an amazing track record on all things to do with football and his eyes are perfectly placed on his head.

Which part do you disagree with?