Transfer discussion thread

[SM]

I definitely hope he stays as I said earlier…we play so much better with him in the team. Just a little surprised by some posters (lower) opinion of him.

Has he played more than 10 games this season?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Has he played more than 10 games this season?

Started 12, appeared in 14 and we only lost 3 of those

 

[moomba]

Will be 130m transfer fee all up inc Raiaola / father cut plus 500k / week wages isnt it?

Really only oil clubs that can afford such a deal.

Forgetting the made up wages and transfer fee, loads of clubs could afford to pay that if they chose.

Amortisation and wages of €50m a year, Liverpool paid out €432 in 2020.

For us, we probably make close to that €50m in academy/fringe player sales each season. And like Liverpool, close to €100m in champions league revenue.

 

[pantskyle]

I think the agent fees isn't too far off being correct, we all know how Raiola works.

 

[RPCB]

I think the agent fees isn't too far off being correct, we all know how Raiola works.

The campaigner has the easiest job in football. Make a few phone calls, have some face to face meetings with club executives and get paid a cut for one transfer in the summer that is as much as the highest paid footballer would earn in a year.

 

[pantskyle]

The campaigner has the easiest job in football. Make a few phone calls, have some face to face meetings with club executives and get paid a cut for one transfer in the summer that is as much as the highest paid footballer would earn in a year.

He also throws chairs.

 

[Cruyff14]

Always find it weird when supporters argue about how much they should sell their player for. Surely you'd rather keep him?

Also not their money either so it's irrelevant in that sense too.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

I dont think the poster in question wants to sell him, looks like he was doing a straw poll from some fans on here to see where they rate him. It's an easy way to quantify it...

Got the expected answer I feel....

People rate him but I think he is more valuable to Leeds than to potential buyers.

 

[Zidane98]

Also not their money either so it's irrelevant in that sense too.

If it had no bearing on who the club signs then absolutely.

Unfortunately not the case at Liverpool where successful outgoings very much determine who is getting signed. For that reason for me anyway there is a vested interest in what money the club makes from a transfer.

 

[Sphynx]

Forgetting the made up wages and transfer fee, loads of clubs could afford to pay that if they chose.

Amortisation and wages of €50m a year, Liverpool paid out €432 in 2020.

For us, we probably make close to that €50m in academy/fringe player sales each season. And like Liverpool, close to €100m in champions league revenue.

Oh course most clubs could afford amortisation of the transfer fee of £50m inc wages PA.

But what about your £300m+ wage bill

And other amortised transfer liabilities? Grealish being a good example?

Very naive way of looking at it.

 

[moomba]

Oh course most clubs could afford amortisation of the transfer fee of £50m inc wages PA.

But what about your £300m+ wage bill

And other amortised transfer liabilities? Grealish being a good example?

Very naive way of looking at it.

So are you suggesting we (or anyone else) cant afford Haaland.

Bit confused by what point you're trying to make.

Our amortisation plus wages was £500m in 20/21 fwiw.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[joop]

People rate him but I think he is more valuable to Leeds than to potential buyers.

Yep I agree with this.

 

[jod23]

I pray every day to 6 pound 4 ounce baby football jesus that Haaland doesnt go to City.

Like it's not difficult enough as it is already to beat City to anything.

If Haaland does end up at City, I think it's only fair that Mbappe comes to Liverpool so they can become the next Messi v Ronaldo for 10 years in the PL.

 

[Sphynx]

So are you suggesting we (or anyone else) cant afford Haaland.

Bit confused by what point you're trying to make.

Our amortisation plus wages was £500m in 20/21 fwiw.

You tried to allude to the fact that because Liverpool pays out $450m in wages+fee, an amortized transfer fee of $50m somehow just falls within this budget. When in reality it will generally just inflate their entire outgoings by over 10%. They still have their existing liabilities.

City paid $500m prior to the Grealish transfer, which in reality is not much smaller than the proposed Haaland one, they sold Torres to offset it slightly, so it may be lower..

So with Haaland you would be closer to $550-600m, which we all understand is state funded and not based on commercial revenues, so who cares?

But your statement to the effect of “heaps of clubs can afford $50m a year” is just really naive.

All but about 4 clubs in the world can probably absorb the increase, because outside of those 4 clubs, it probably translates to an increase on their balance sheets of 20%+ on wages and transfer fee’s for a single player. That’s not accounting for the agent fee’s either.

These 4 clubs are state owned with injected funds outside of commercial revenues just continually writing off loses anyway. They just spend more and more.

I guarantee you Man Cities wages and amortized per annum amount increases outstrips their broadcast/commercial revenue average % increases every single year.

 

[moomba]

PMSL. Bingo.

 

[pantskyle]

Oh really, wow. Had already got my Kane United top.

 

[Gameova_]

PMSL. Bingo.

How many diapers you pissing in per day bruh?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Oh really, wow. Had already got my Kane United top.

Ring United. Can be salvaged if you buy Herbie Kane

 

[Art Vandelay_]

PMSL. Bingo.

You have 12 search pages with your catchphrase haha. Err… I mean

PMSL

 

[moomba]

I guarantee you Man Cities wages and amortized per annum amount increases outstrips their broadcast/commercial revenue average % increases every single year.

Forgetting last years figures of £337m (artificially high) and the year before figures of £217m (artificially low) our revenue from broadcasting increased from £109m in 11/12 to £287m in 18/19.

Our wages/amortisation increased from £285m in 11/12 to £442m in 18/19.

Last year our amortisation/wages went up by £3m and our broadcast income went up by £118m. We've already earned over €100m from this seasons champions league with the possibility of another €15m minimum if we make the final.

What you seem to have ignored is that amortisation can go down as well as up. Departures, renegotiated contracts can all bring amortisation figures downwards. As for wages, yes we have added a big wage, but we also lost the likes of Aguero. This year we'll lose Fernandinho's wage and that will mitigate the effects of any new signings.

So it's all well and good adding Haalands made up cost, and then over inflating Grealish' cost and ignoring everything else that goes into amortisation and wages. But I think I'll stick with my naive approach if that's OK.

 

[moomba]

You have 12 search pages with your catchphrase haha. Err… I mean

PMSL

People need to stop getting so triggered by it.


I could write "I acknowledge your point of view but don't care to discuss it further in detail as a) I think it is stupid point of view not worth discusing, b) I think you're just taking the piss or playing City bingo, or c) I think you're a bit of a dick and not worth wasting my time conversing with you.

Or I could just write PMSL.

 

[moomba]

How many diapers you pissing in per day bruh?

c) PMSL

 

[Bradesmaen]

People need to stop getting so triggered by it.


I could write "I acknowledge your point of view but don't care to discuss it further in detail as a) I think it is stupid point of view not worth discusing, b) I think you're just taking the piss or playing City bingo, or c) I think you're a bit of a dick and not worth wasting my time conversing with you.

Or I could just write PMSL.

So you feel like you need to be unintelligent

 

[moomba]

So you feel like you need to be unintelligent

PMSL.