No Oppo Supporters Tom Stewart's targeted KO'ing of Prestia - 4 week ban

[Sterge]

Some of you need to chill out, be better than geelong supporters.

We dont need to wish injuries on anyone or hope someone evens it up.

Just be content in the fact we win when it really matters.

Also the thread is about Stewart and Prestia

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Intentional, careless, reckless all seem fairly vague terms to me.
I think it was late enough to be "not in play" (whatever difference that means??)

The big issue here is the protecting of the head.
I think the AFL will be facing so many lawsuits down the track.
Shane Tuck, Danny Frawley - the evidence of brain damage from playing AFL is already fairly clear and is not going to get any quieter.
Greg Williams can't remember the match in which he won the Norm Smith. This came from a Deakin University report into CTE from almost 10 years ago!

They've brought in the concussion tests - but really feels like a token, especially when they toothlessly OK'd Port's action in not testing their 2 players who clashed heads and knocked each other down.

This is a real chance for the AFL to show how concerned they really are with protecting the head.
I think it's inevitable that the evidence of brain damage causes the game to completely change from what we know.
As a spectator it'll be a shame, but you can't have the game affecting players for the rest of their life.

Prestia could end up like Liam Picken.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

How do get a cuddle from Chris Scott ?

Send somebody too Tomorrow it seems.

 

[mellowyellow]

Yeah 5:15pm

I could have sworn they were trying to keep it in house by the amount of non coverage

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Really? Even level 1 first aiders know that you don't move the neck in case of head, neck or back trauma, instead they allowed a ******* game to go on around them and made him walk off himself for the sake of a ******* 20minute timeout ...

He actually got up himself.
3 umpires and the one upstairs should've stopped the game.

 

[Tiger2709]

Definitely not the actions of a man remorseful at what he'd one, more that of a complete coward. Hit and run.

I still cant comprehend how they could just let the play go on over an unconscious player, forget that it cost us a goal, what about the players welfare?

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Okay, hear me out, like Bachar, Tom Stewart is not a dirty player. He just isn't. What occurred, he's never done that before.
However, in this instance, he intentionally ran past the play to make forceful contact. He made a deliberate decision. He must pay a price.
This is a line in the sand moment for the AFL with their stance on concussion and a statement on the head being sacrosanct.
Now, you ask yourself how the AFL can tick it off (saying the umps call to allow play to continue was correct). Simple, it's about culpable liability. If they admit they did the wrong thing, then does that open the door to being sued down the line?
What's really alarming here is the (justifiable) lack of faith in the AFL on this matter. And as for the lawyer who used to represent us, we were always shithouse at getting our blokes off at the tribunal. Makes sense now.
There should be no bargain/no plea/no deal. For the sake of every player playing moving forward, they have to get this decision right.

Regarding culpability…

Surely it works the other way. Wouldn’t it be more prudent of the AFL to admit that the current system creates an unacceptable pressure upon the medical staff, and risk to the injured player? If the AFL accordingly changed the rules to ensure safe conduct for medical staff and injured players, wouldn’t this be their best way to avoid future culpability? Denying a truth that was obvious to a million viewers on Saturday will in no way protect the AFL from claims of not meeting their duty of care.

The AFL has a duty of care along the lines they must make avoid behaviours or omissions that could reasonably be foreseen to cause harm to others.

I am going to say here I don’t think there would be too many sane football watchers who would say it is right to allow play to continue around an obviously incapacitated player whilst he is being attended by medical staff. There is one layer of protection provided where the medical staff can signal for a stretcher but they operate under pressure and like everyone else can make errors of judgement. The AFL needs to design a better system, that is clear from the events of Saturday.

Something more like, player down, one umpire focuses on the injured player/s, including talking to medical staff. Immediately calls a halt to the game only if required. Buggy whizzes out immediately collects injured player and Doctor and carts them off the ground as quickly as is prudent given the injury, no interchange rules apply. Restart game as soon as the buggy is in an appropriate position. The umpires then attempt to return the play as close as can be managed to the position it was in prior to the incident in terms of giving possession to the team that help possession prior to the game being stopped. Stiff fines in soft cap for teams seeking to exploit.

That was awful viewing on Saturday where the man on the moon could see if the umpires applied any common sense to the situation they would have immediately stopped play until Prestia was safely off the field. But clearly the umpires are operating under an unacceptable level of pressure to keep the game moving at all costs. The AFL statement imo should have been more along the lines “we recognise people’s concern over the incident and we are reviewing the procedures in these circumstances with a view to making the game as safe as possible."

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I still cant comprehend how they could just let the play go on over an unconscious player, forget that it cost us a goal, what about the players welfare?

And the pressure on the medical staff…having to make crucial instant assessments with play carrying on around them and 60,000 fans making a racket.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I disagree. This pacifist, professional, modern approach to footy at the elite level bears little resemblance to footy played around the country at lower levels. If you take someone out, you have a target on your back. It can take minutes or years, but eventually you will cop it. That's usually the end of it.

Buddy Franklin is an excellent example of what happens to players who don't ever face retribution on the AFL field. He's a cheap sniper who hits smaller players and is protected by the "superstar" rule which means he doesn't get reported anywhere near as often as he should. Back in the good old days, a ruckman or CHB would have made pay on the field. Today, there is no price to pay and so he spends a career getting away with that crap.

I don't care that Tom Stewart is remorseful. I don't care that he's a good guy. Next time we play them, I want to see the score settled.

If its a final.
Just a whisper in the ear would be sufficient.

 

[beema limapep]

They give him 3 or less and the afl can give away all the free tickets they like.

Coz I'll tell yas somethin, I'll ****ing tell yas something - we ain't ****ing coming!

 

[SavDog23]

Inb4 this goes for 4 hours

 

[beema limapep]

Is there a verdict yet? What's there to think about.

 

[Mr Stokes]

AFL live feed setting the low expectation. AFL happy with 4. Discraceful.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Afl ask for 4 weeks lol what a joke.Afl is a joke

 

[k31th]

Is there a verdict yet? What's there to think about.

Geelong star Tom Stewart faces the Tribunal for Dion Prestia hit

Join Michael Whiting LIVE as the Tribunal delivers the penalty for Cat's brutal hit on Tiger

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[beema limapep]

4 is a disgrace. The fix is in

 

[STRUGGLETOWN EST1885]

I hate Geelong more than Collingwood & Carlscum combined

I concur

 

[Nostradumbass]

Prestia was targetted. This meathead just happened to hit him flush, when Prestia wasn't looking, was defenceless. The captain of the century barred up when he saw it.

If he gets less than 4 it's manifestly inadequate.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Looks like we need to line him up next game to get any justice.

 

[smasha]

The Coward still feels sick? Well s**t.

I'm thinking a 6 game suspended sentence is probably the fairest outcome then. Just as long as he's doing okay.

Media are trumpetting out 4 weeks.

 

[smasha]

SEN talking about yellow and red cards ffs.

Imagine the rorting we’d cop when umps have yellows in their hands fmd,get reamed enough as it is.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

AFL live feed setting the low expectation. AFL happy with 4. Discraceful. View attachment 1435169

So Brad Scott’s classification of careless conduct becomes the AFL position on the matter, effectively limiting the upside to 4 weeks.

This is ludicrous that a twin brother of the player’s coach has effectively limited the upside of the penalty. Why would the prosecuting agent not be pushing for the maximum possible grading and therefore the maximum possible penalty?

Sure, the Tribunal can take a different view, but why would they with both sides before them accepting the player’s conduct was careless and not intentional?

This system dead set stinks.

 

[beema limapep]

Disgusting.

 

[SavDog23]

4 weeks hahahahahaha

spat my drink out

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Parents pulling kids out of Auskick as we speak

 

[beema limapep]

Absolutely outrageous.