Bye Bye Nobles

[Roosurgence]

Did someone pick up a sense of resentment to our 2021 number 1 draft pick from Noble’s presser yesterday when asked about JHF & his pending return to the side ?
Noble had the nerve to say “he’s missed a few weeks & might have to come back via the VFL” ?! ….
I mean …. WTF ? Why would you say that unless you & JHF had some bad blood or dislike for one another?
I’m starting to think that a lot of the “ the noble apology-gate , the news coming out of the club about our young players being dissatisfied , the tantrums , lip dropping , bad body language & general reverse form from TT , Powell etc .. has a lot more than has been let out to do with our number 1 recruit in JHF….. ?

As some one pointed out he had no problem brining Bonar in off a big lay off.

Noble isn’t big on talent, he wants 22 role players. While you need role players, you also need elite talent. All the good sides have elite players with role players around them. It’s like Noble is trying the reverse. Building a team of role players, where elite talent is dumbed down to fit in.

That’s why we are seeing spuds selected week after week in favour of players with more upside. Noble wants total control, to the point where talent and flair is seen as an obstruction to his ****ed up vision / process.

 

[Roosurgence]

Theres been a consistent thread on narrowing the gameplan to focus on defence because in the first few rounds the players couldn't bring it all together. Now we have been only focusing on defence at the expense of offense, and that has been clearly communicated by David Noble in his press conferences, which nobody seems to watch, and it was mentioned again post Geelong. That everyone seems/wants to ignore that is not my problem.

Now, if you conduct a review and everyone in the club is saying it's a sh** gameplan and I can't work with the coach, fine, sack him!

But if the result of the review is that people are on board with that gameplan but there are teething issues, people can work with the coach, they think there other problems at play, then we should not sack the coach. And if there are actors on the board who are going to bow to anything but that, I think it is complete BS and will likely set us back years, and I will never trust this board again.

So all he has achieved now is a so called defensive game plan where we still get smashed, but as a by product take out any ability to score?

You know what that’s called? It’s called an abomination. It’s the type of thinking that comes from a coach that is out of their depth and has no clue.

 

[The Anvil]

It’s been a huge problem in the past and it’s now even a bigger problem!

A non negotiable for success as we know too well is recruitment and we have a vacant lot!

What a freaking task trying to get A grade performing professionals to leave a successful club and come to ours to fill that role.

Getting Clarko would be our only hope getting decent people to jump ship.

You'd like to think that with only 18 recruitment teams in the country that there would always be demand for the role from quality individuals.

Our biggest issue is that we valued the guy who gives great insight through data analytics and allowed him to be the decision maker. He wasn't up to it, as he needs to be the guy who gives input rather than decides based on numerous inputs.

I'm not ITK but it would be safe it assume that he was challenged on his list management decisions, threw his toys out of the pram, and quit (whilst crying to his mates like the North Talk podcast to rubbish others publicly). He wasn't up to the role, and the club made a massive mistake putting him in it.

Still, there will be people out there who are up to it. Someone who loves the task of fixing a ship adrift. We keep looking at those who are at the club already, did it with Joyce and then Luff, we can only hope we don't do this again.

 

[kool kangas]

I'm packing his desk up and removing his items as we speak.

Thank me later.

Just dont take them to far and remember where you put them...just in case...

 

[DrZaius]

If he goes then would that be 4 different coaches in 5 years?

I’m thinking the coach is only a small part of a bigger problem.

Yes, but it's a misleading statistic given we didn't actually hire Brad Scott at the beginning of 2017.

 

[archereleven]

He should’ve been shown the door months ago .

Probably, but the bye week was the opportune time if we wanted a wait and see period.

Decision making in the front orifice is as bad as the on field decision making.

I hope Stevo can clean out the shit and bring in professionals.

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[Mr Lloyd Christmas]

Just dont take them to far and remember where you put them...just in case...

All on Ebay already.

Bought his plane ticket back to Brisbane as a kind gesture.

 

[kool kangas]

All on Ebay already.

Bought his plane ticket back to Brisbane as a kind gesture.

l hope it was a return ticket..

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Mildly complicating factor for a potential sacking tomorrow/Monday; am told more than one board member are not currently in Melbourne.

There is some reticence about making such a significant decision at an emergency board meeting held over Zoom/Teams.

Ive done an entire ****ing nursing degree over zoom, I'm sure they can talk it out just once.

 

[Chadwiko]

Ive done an entire ******* nursing degree over zoom, I'm sure they can talk it out just once.

Ehhh on one hand, sure I get you.

On the other hand, the way these things are usually handled is that the full board (and CEO and some other relevant parties) convene in person and bring in the Head Coach and handle the separation with dignity and respect. You thank them for their service, explain that all parties are disappointed in the outcome, etc etc.

Can't really do that over zoom.

 

[Devington]

If it's just one person though what's the issue?

 

[benbanjo]

Ehhh on one hand, sure I get you.

On the other hand, the way these things are usually handled is that the full board (and CEO and some other relevant parties) convene in person and bring in the Head Coach and handle the separation with dignity and respect. You thank them for their service, explain that all parties are disappointed in the outcome, etc etc.

Can't really do that over zoom.

You can also record over zoom. and I'm sure someone would. don't want that getting out either.

 

[Chadwiko]

I hope Stevo can clean out the s**t and bring in professionals.

For what it's worth, Stevo has been a big supporter of Noble.

 

[Mr Lloyd Christmas]

l hope it was a return ticket..

No one way ticket.

He's done enough damage already.

 

[Chadwiko]

You can also record over zoom. and I'm sure someone would. don't want that getting out either.

I didn't think about that, but that's a great point.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

You can also record over zoom. and I'm sure someone would. don't want that getting out either.

Recording can be disabled by the host so that the button doesn't even show up for attendants.

If they use third party apps to record, then that person obviously needs to go too

 

[Passmore]

Ehhh on one hand, sure I get you.

On the other hand, the way these things are usually handled is that the full board (and CEO and some other relevant parties) convene in person and bring in the Head Coach and handle the separation with dignity and respect. You thank them for their service, explain that all parties are disappointed in the outcome, etc etc.

Can't really do that over zoom.

What if the coach happens to disappear?

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[Devington]

What if the coach happens to disappear?

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Oh whoops my connection is bad sorry, maybe we try this meeting again tomorrow.

 

[benbanjo]

Recording can be disabled by the host so that the button doesn't even show up for attendants.

If they use third party apps to record, then that person obviously needs to go too

I am aware how it works.
Third party apps would be used by everyone on the meeting, then someone would leak it to the media and no one would know who it was.

 

[Cyber_punk]

If he goes then would that be 4 different coaches in 5 years?

I’m thinking the coach is only a small part of a bigger problem.

That's fairly standard procedure in world sports.

If anything, AFL coaches are an outlier and are given too much time to show improvement. Counting pre season games and assuming he coaches out this year Noble has had 50 games to show improvement. That's a good enough sample size imo

 

[Samsquanch]

What if the coach happens to disappear?

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Hey! What??? Do you know those guys from Keysborough too?

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I am aware how it works.
Third party apps would be used by everyone on the meeting, then someone would leak it to the media and no one would know who it was.

I'm not suggesting that everyone sits at home and calls in.

If our board room is anything like 90% of board rooms around the country, they'd have a set up that allows people to call in.

I'm suggesting just the one person who can't physically get there does so.

 

[archereleven]

For what it's worth, Stevo has been a big supporter of Noble.

He also had a hand in initiating the review didn't he?

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[Themanbun]

Theres been a consistent thread on narrowing the gameplan to focus on defence because in the first few rounds the players couldn't bring it all together. Now we have been only focusing on defence at the expense of offense, and that has been clearly communicated by David Noble in his press conferences, which nobody seems to watch, and it was mentioned again post Geelong. That everyone seems/wants to ignore that is not my problem.

I've listened to each and every one of his press conferences.

He has refused to acknowledge that forward structure has been a problem for us for his entire tenure. The 'focus on defence' the past 10 weeks or so is, IMO, a cop out designed to buy some time. It's unsurprising that it only cropped up once the media blowtorch on the game plan really started to turn up.

The structural problems in Noble's game plan have been visible since day dot.

 

[Samsquanch]

I've listened to each and every one of his press conferences.

He has refused to acknowledge that forward structure has been a problem for us for his entire tenure. The 'focus on defence' the past 10 weeks or so is, IMO, a cop out designed to buy some time. It's unsurprising that it only cropped up once the media blowtorch on the game plan really started to turn up.

The structural problems in Noble's game plan have been visible since day dot.

Interesting - now that you point this out it makes sense. And the move of McKay to the forward line reveals the truth that the problem in the forward line is the real factor that is causing the most concern. If the focus is genuinely on defence, then you don't remove the most valuable asset when you are playing against one of the most destructive pair of forwards in the competition, leaving your number two and three defenders to the task.